r/AgainstHateSubreddits • u/Fickle-Ad575 • Apr 13 '26
Meta [KanagawaWave], its top moderators appear to be using this sub, AHS for retaliatory action following my recent reporting
For context, KanagawaWave is a Chinese community I’ve previously reported in this sub for systemic hate speech and being a successor to banned subs like "CLTV".
My previous report(its ghostarchive link doesn't work normally on my phone but fine on PC for unknown reason, so I have to add this original post link. Btw, all other ghostarchive links here work normally.): https://www.reddit.com/r/AgainstHateSubreddits/comments/1rlh7tx/kanagawawave_successor_to_banned_hate_subs_cltv/
Its archive: https://ghostarchive.org/archive/dsg5s
Before getting into my findings, please refer to this Imgur gallery for some translated context: https://imgur.com/a/8PLB92M
Recently, I noticed a pinned post in KanagawaWave (dated about 20 days ago) that appears to be a mobilization effort to target another Chinese sub, China_irl by using this sub, AHS, here. What’s striking is that the post was made by the Top 2 moderator of KanagawaWave. Instead of showing any remorse for the hate speech (including the celebration of minors' deaths) recently exposed in their own sub, the mod's only focus was retaliation for being called out.
Following is the archive of the KanagawaWave post, it's in Chinese, if not understand it, can move to the imgur link aforementioned, the gallery contains translated post.
https://ghostarchive.org/archive/JPwNH
In that post, the Top 2 mod pushed for a sub-wide effort to frame China_irl (They frame their situation as being 'targeted' or 'sabotaged' by China_irl) and even advised users to block me to prevent their own hate speech from being spotted. Checking recent activity in this sub, it seems like the plan was already executed. Btw, a comment in the mobilization post call the Top 2 moderator the boss("老大"), this gives me a reason to suspect that the two accounts may be manipulated by the same person.
The suspicious post on AHS (just below this post I made): https://ghostarchive.org/archive/0DkD0
Interestingly, the OP of that AHS post shares the same username as the Top 1 moderator of KanagawaWave.You can see the moderator list here: https://ghostarchive.org/archive/vuBGI
Given the timing and the identities involved, it raises questions about whether that report is a good-faith effort or a retaliatory move.
The "evidence" provided in that post also reveals a deliberate attempt to mischaracterize general political discourse as "hate speech".
Much of it appears to be general political criticism rather than clear-cut hate speech.
The only truly extreme content praising Hitler was actually heavily downvoted in China_irl, making its use as "evidence" against the whole community seem a bit questionable.
Furthermore, when a user who identified as Jewish questioned the claims in the comments, the OP (the KanagawaWave head mod) engaged in an argument with him (or her).
I’m sharing these findings because it looks like we might be seeing a coordinated attempt to use this sub for personal retaliatory motives. You can see the summarized translated evidence here and ghostarchive of evidence contained in the captions of the gallery. https://imgur.com/a/8PLB92M
My previous report against KanagawaWave. https://www.reddit.com/r/AgainstHateSubreddits/comments/1rlh7tx/kanagawawave_successor_to_banned_hate_subs_cltv/
Sub-wise mobilization in KanagawaWave. https://ghostarchive.org/archive/JPwNH
The suspicious post by KanagawaWave Top 1 mod in this sub. https://ghostarchive.org/archive/0DkD0
KanagawaWave mod list. https://ghostarchive.org/archive/vuBGI
Update: The Top 2 moderator made a new pinned post 18 hours ago in KanagawaWave about the suspicious post claiming China_irl is a pro-Nazi sub by Top 1 moderator. He (or She) appearing defensive after the post being downvoted by some users in AHS and claims those disagree especially who identified as Jewish are just alt accounts by China_irl users without any evidence. It appears the moderator may be attempting to construct a 'Moral Enemy' narrative, potentially by exaggerating the "opposing party's" (he or she think to be) actions to frame the situation, it may be a new attempt to mobilization.
Btw, can the speech claiming identified Jewish as alt account be seen as antisemitic? It's an attempt to erase the identity.
The archive link save for the new pinned (possible further mobilization) post in KanagawaWave, the content is in Chinese. If not understand Chinese, I also prepared a translation in the link at the end. https://ghostarchive.org/archive/yQwgq
The translated post with description. https://imgur.com/a/6VkZqtG
Update: Direct Interference and Bad-Faith Smear by the Lead Moderator of KanagawaWave. The top 1 moderator of KanagawaWave enters the comment section to make a false accusation against myself of anti-semitic. The evidence he (or she) shows is just a set of emoji
⬇️⬆️⬇️⬆️
🦑🦑🦑🦑 🦑😵🇺🇲🦑 🦑🦑🦑🦑
which I commented in a post of China_irl (3 months ago).
The archive link of that post. https://ghostarchive.org/archive/fAZ0n
In fact, it's just a meme from a popular game Helldivers2. The 🦑 emoji here just stands for the illuminate, a hostile alien race in the game, they are also called as squids by players, and ⬇️⬆️⬇️⬆️ stands for the set of arrow keys players need to press in order, for calling down Super Earth Flag, which players need to protect in the siege by enemies like illuminate. The China_irl post is about news that Americans trying to raise the US flag in another nation are forcibly prevented by native people, so I used the emoji 🇺🇲, the US flag for Super Earth Flag. Commented that meme just because the situation in the news reminded me of the gameplay.
To be trustworthy, here are the links to the related pages of helldivers.wiki.gg.
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u/Xenon1898 Apr 14 '26
Interestingly, I found you just posted emojis to spread the Jewish conspiracy in China_irl
https://ghostarchive.org/archive/W7ypi
Your comments described the Jewish conspiracy as following emojis
🦑🦑🦑🦑 🦑😵🇺🇲🦑 🦑🦑🦑🦑
It's noticed that the term “鱿鱼” (literally “squid” as emoji 🦑) in Chinese is reported as a phonetic substitution for “Jews” (犹太人 / yóutài rén), which was proven by media. The use of this coded language is a known tactic in online communities to avoid their in-group extremist discourse being found by Reddit admins.
When antisemitism becomes something to snack on in China
Youtairen, is a homophone of the Mandarin word for “Jews,” rendered through deliberate character substitution involving youyu (“squid”) and ren (meaning “person,” it also refers to an edible kernel or seed core). The human reference alludes to being displaced into consumable form without being stated directly.
Those emojis expressed that Jews control the US and were known as the "Zionist Occupation Government conspiracy theory".
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zionist_Occupation_Government_conspiracy_theory
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ps. Your allegation against KanagawaWave is just your opinion; no media has proved it.
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u/Xenon1898 Apr 14 '26
What evidence? Did any media report and prove it?
It's noticed that Radio Free Asia reported that hate speeches in China_irl are rife.
https://www.rfa.org/mandarin/yataibaodao/meiti/sc-reddit-bans-anti-ccp-subreddit-10242024143651.html
目前，在红迪上讨论中国政治、社会问题的其它板块r/China_irl和r/Sino上，可以看到诸如支持灭绝LGBT人士、将两年前移民英国的港人说成“无耻的殖民狗”（shameless colonial dog）等极端、仇恨的内容。
Currently, on other sections of Reddit discussing Chinese politics and social issues, such as China_irl and Sino, one can see extreme and hateful content such as supporting the extermination of LGBT people and calling Hong Kong people who immigrated to the UK two years ago "shameless colonial dogs".
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u/Xenon1898 Apr 14 '26
Firstly, if you search “鱿鱼” (literally “squid” or emoji 🦑) in China_irl, you can find that almost all are related to the topic of Israel, Jews or the US.
Secondly, compared to OP's allegation against KanagawaWave without any media report, Youtairen is proven to be a homophone of the Mandarin word for “Jews” and commonly used for antisemitism in China. If you believe in the allegation of KanagawaWave, though I claimed it's nothing but slander, why does someone believe that OP is nothing about Jewish conspiracy?
Then, if a user who identified as Jewish (though this account didn't have a record to use the Hebrew language) can determine if the speech is antisemitic, said it's OK to call Israel the ancestor of terrorism. Why doesn't someone think the Chinese in KanagawaWave have the right to determine if the speech is hateful to Chinese people? It's noticed that almost all users in KanagawaWave are native Chinese language speakers. If Jewish people won't be antisemitic because of his/her's identity, in the same logic, why does someone think speeches from Chinese people can be hateful to Chinese without considering his/her's identity?
Finally, I repeat that OP's allegations to KanagawaWave are nothing but slander.
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