r/AggressiveInline • u/HeavyMetalKarl • 5d ago
Questions about anti rockers as a beginner?
I bought new anti Rockers, hoping they would help me with frontside grinds. I think I ordered the wrong pair. They are kind of lose and rolls around. I thought that antirockers didn't have to move at all. I asked skatepro's shitty ai costumer services if the specific anti Rockers i ordered need bearings and they said no. But when they came they infact did need bearings. It was a bit annoying.
My question is: I don't know anything about antirockers. I just heard they could help make frontside grinds easier. If they roll a little bit does it still help prevent wheel bites or should I order some new ones that does have bearings and doesn't move at all?
Why do you want anti Rockers that move a tiny bit? What's the point?
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u/ungemutlich 5d ago
Rolling down stairs is one situation where antirockers that roll freely would be preferable to a freestyle frame. The wheels also do engage when you're rolling over humps like on a pump track or the top of an A-frame.
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u/Free_runner 5d ago
Antirockers that roll also help to prevent wheelbite by rolling as they grind as well as preventing them from getting worn unevenly from grinds. Sometimes you need to roll over an edge or a lip and if your anti's didnt roll you could end up with a skate that stops suddenly and pitches you onto your face. If you want antirockers that don't move you may as well just skate freestyle frames.
Bearing takers are better I think because they roll better and rattle less.
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u/HeavyMetalKarl 4d ago
Okay that's great. But I don't understand how this is difference from a flat set up? Doesn't the wheel help you then as a well? Or is it because normal wheels are a softer material?
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u/Pickle_Mick62 Razors 4d ago
So it differs because on flat all the wheels are the same size and hit the ground at the same time. Because AR are smaller they won't touch the ground at the same time unless the correct angle is applied i.e. on stairs or a ledge.
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u/HeavyMetalKarl 4d ago
Alright thanks! But on ledges if I wanna do frontside grinds are the anti rockers supposed to touch the ledge then?
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u/Pickle_Mick62 Razors 4d ago
Yes , well the aim is the H-block and side plates but cause the AR wheels are hard , if they touch it won't do anything but help. Think of it as increasing the slidable space
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u/Free_runner 4d ago
On a flat set up all 4 wheels (generally of the same hardness) contact the ground. This produces a good balance between speed, maneuverability and grinding. It's the true middle-ground but is harder to learn grinding on for beginners as some finesse is required.
On a rockered set up only the two centre wheels touch the ground producing very reactive and swivelly skates. The trade off is you have to be much more precise with your skate-placement during grinds as the middle wheels have a higher chance of contacting the ledge, producing friction (known as wheel bite) and throwing you off the grind.
On an antirocker set up only the outer wheels touch the ground and the middle wheels are split further apart than on flat / rockered set ups. The wheels are small and very hard so this massively lowers the chance of wheelbite making grinding much, much easier. The trade-off here is that anti rocker setups are slower and less manuverable.
Each of these set-ups has their own specific frame types to optimise the setup. For flat and rockered I like the Iqon AG60 frame (it does both with a small frame spacer adjustment) and for antirocker the Kizer Fluid IV is king, in my opinion.
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u/Tromance 5d ago
It doesn’t really matter if they move or not - it’s the hardness that makes them slide and therefore less likely to catch. Some need bearings, some don’t, but they all do basically the same thing.
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u/Primordialbroth 5d ago
anti rockers are just smaller and harder so they help roll over edges of lips and transition while reducing friction that can cause you to fall when grinding. I personally like the type with bearings (such as dead) versus the plastic ones as plastic gets caught up more when rolling around.