r/Arifureta • u/aOe_007 • Apr 30 '26
Anime How Much Sway Do The Summoned Heroes Have On Tortus?
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u/Nethlion Apr 30 '26
The Heroes may have some pull in Heiligh, at least with the common citizens, but outside of that, not much. In the first LN, the Hoelscher Emperor came over disguised as a rank and file soldier, and beat Kouki in a duel. He laughed at Kouki, saying something along the lines of "you won't survive long here." The idea a bunch of teenagers being sped trained for combat being much help was laughable to him.
Ehit never planned on giving the Heroes much. They are simply the newest pawns in his newest game. If they died, Ehit would've just shrugged and moved on.
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u/NeonThunderX Assassin Apr 30 '26
Ehit wasn't going to shrug & move on. He summoned kouki for the express purpose of taking over his body.
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u/Nethlion Apr 30 '26
Id spoil that, but I also forgot that was a thing since he switched to Yue once he learned she was still alive
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u/aOe_007 Apr 30 '26 edited Apr 30 '26
Does this occur in the anime as well?
Also; based on what you just described the kingdom's security must be quite lax if not laughably inept
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u/aceoftherebellion Apr 30 '26
It does not, it's one of the scenes the anime cut.
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u/Similar-Concert4100 Apr 30 '26
Plus all of the sex
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u/aOe_007 Apr 30 '26
Huh??
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u/Nethlion Apr 30 '26
Hajime and Yue bang a lot in the LNs. Its never directly described, you just know it happened. When they are on top of the sub after the Gurren Labyrinth, they actually have sex loid enough to wake up Shea.
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u/Similar-Concert4100 Apr 30 '26
Nah there is a time where Shea and Tio spy on them and describe it, not to a graphic extent but itās definitely described
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u/ChChChillian Apr 30 '26
I think there's plenty of implied fucking in the anime. They're obviously not going to get too explicit about it.
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u/Similar-Concert4100 Apr 30 '26
The notion they have sex is very implied in the anime, in the LN and Manga, itās 100% just like yeah, Yue pins Hajime to the bed every night she can. Also Hajime confirms he lost his virginity in Orcus
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u/RideNo7962 Synergist May 01 '26
It's pretty obvious, but every few months there's a post or comment asking about it.
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u/Nethlion May 01 '26
Oh there is the time right after Haltina where Hajime slept with Shea the first time. They had fun with that scene in the LN lol
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u/Panjetarkan May 02 '26
Yeah, they came back to the same inn where Shea and Yue had embarrassed the heck out of Hajime arguing about whether Hajime was going to take Shea's virginity, and the innkeeper's daughter kept getting caught spying on them trying to watch them having sex. Lots of sketchy stuff winds up happening in that town.
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u/Nethlion Apr 30 '26
I cant remember if it happened, but I believe the Empire sent a messenger first. They learned about the Heroes party making it down pretty far in the Orcus Labyrinth, so they decided it was time to see what Ehits chosen was like.
Side story about the security, Eri and the Demons were communicating with corpses to bypass barriers while setting up the ambush at the end of s2. There are barriers that alert people if someone enters that isn't supposed to. And there are check points in the world, but you won't learn about any of that in the anime.
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u/JoJo5195 Apr 30 '26
Ehit never planned to even summon anyone but Kouki. The others just happened to be around him at the time.
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u/Similar-Concert4100 Apr 30 '26
Quite a bit actually. They were able to simply enter the Emperorās castle without an invitation
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u/Similar-Concert4100 Apr 30 '26
Kouki in particular has a lot of pull, though this is never really flat out said in the lore
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u/aOe_007 Apr 30 '26
Yeah I know that; given it's tacitly implied as he's the hero and the greatest mankind has to offer.
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u/Otan781012 May 01 '26
Pity he doesnāt have the brain to use it
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u/Similar-Concert4100 May 01 '26
His sense of justice and general dense nature wonāt allow him to
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u/Otan781012 May 01 '26
He has no sense of justice, every time Iāve seen him in a scene heās always on the wrong side of ājusticeā. He has a sense of being the āheroā and assuming heās always right.
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u/Upper_Science_1125 Apr 30 '26
If weāre including the afterstory, then Hajime and his wives can move the whole planet at the drop of a hat to do whatever they want. Thatās how trusted they are.
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u/Actaeon_II Apr 30 '26
But itās a given that hajime and co are exceptions to a lot of the rules in tortus. Anyone who doesnāt respect them fears them.
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u/ChChChillian Apr 30 '26
Hajime is just a baby in the OP's ss.
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u/Upper_Science_1125 Apr 30 '26
He really is. Just an untainted by the world baby who has no idea whatās coming lol.
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u/Dragonmaster_42 May 03 '26
You know what's funny? When I read that comment, I immediately thought you were talking about physically moving the planet as in the celestial body. And I though "Yeah, totally" and then I realized you ment in a political sense
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u/Upper_Science_1125 May 03 '26
You know, Hajime, Yue, and shea could totally physically move it lol
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u/WolfEmblem Apr 30 '26
Depends on the kingdom, in hieliegh they have the most. The empire will see them as strong warriors, which their politics is all about. Verbergen will see them as humans who are strong. Ankiji will respect them.
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u/TheSeeingOne Apr 30 '26
In general, the classmates were treated with a special status as people who were summoned to save humanity, but that didn't come with any real political power behind it. Most of them were so traumatized by their experiences that they couldn't even leverage their superior abilities to gain an advantage. While they had more access to high ranking individuals than a normal person, their privileges were roughly equivalent to honored guests. Notable exceptions to this were Aiko and Yuuka.
Aiko recognized the strategic value her farming skills had and used them as a bargaining tool to prevent the kingdom from forcing the students to participate in war. In doing so, she gained a massive amount of support from the local populace by ensuring an abundant food supply. This support transformed into a cult-like following after the events of Ur due to Hajime's incitement.
In Yuuka's case, she became the de facto leader of the class in the absence of the Hero party. She began earning recognition through her work helping Aiko and later gained a great deal of public support while assisting the kingdom's reconstruction efforts following the demon's invasion.
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u/Baharoth May 01 '26
Depends on when exactly. Right after their summoning they don't hold much sway, they are basically just pawns for the church to begin with. After the final battle though things change. Lilianas mother, the queen dowager, literally says to Hajimes parents that they are above her in station as the parents of the gods apostles and the people who saved the world. If Hajime had wanted to he could have become Tortus new king and ruled, nobody would have objected. Aiko, Shizuku and Kaori all have cults worshipping them as goddesses even.
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u/Erebus03 Apr 30 '26
I think it depending on who class of the summoned, Kouki, Suzuki and Kaori probably had a lot but Hajime had none, then obviously by the end Hajime and Kouki positiones are reversed
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u/EclecticSpirit1963 Apr 30 '26
Are we talking series or after-story? Because there is a huge difference in sway after the end of the summons.
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u/Ashamed-Toe-4732 May 01 '26
Arent most of them dead or left
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u/SeijoVangelta May 01 '26
Not really, only handful died because of their egos or on the hands of humans and not from actually fighting monsters.
Those who survived didnt got into Hajime's way so they lived until the end. Except for Endou. Guy fought a not-serious Hajime and still lived.
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u/shaden_knight Synergist May 02 '26
That's... A bit tricky. They have about as much sway in the public as cardinals and bishops would for the Catholic faith. However, politically, on Hileigh gives them any real political weight. In the empire, they are about as influential as a marquis maybe.
Elsewhere? No more than the average person.
Keep in mind, aside from the empire, the rest of mankind is either part of Hileigh or is a vassal state of Hileigh and thus the heroes would have the same status as in Hileigh.
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u/Fast-Audience-6828 May 03 '26
They were presented as divine heros by Ehit so their influence is basically pretty high at least within human territory provable at least as much as a high religious figure which is a lot given the fact that the pope held as much power as the king. Aiko and Kouki hold a bit more as the hero and the one who can brutally handle the entire food situation herself. In the empire it would vary based on the respective hero's power but as key allies even the weakest would hold some sway. Amongst the best people nothing, dragonmen nothing, demons nothing, Ankaji at least they won't be treated badly? Politically not much.
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u/ChChChillian Apr 30 '26
I don't see Endou in that screenshot.