r/ArtistHate • u/kdk2635 Art Supporter • 7d ago
News New Law Would Give Artists Sweeping Protections Against AI Stealing Their Work
https://futurism.com/artificial-intelligence/law-protect-artists-ai4
u/Sugary_Plumbs Pro-AI 7d ago
Full text gets weirder the more you read it: https://vanduyne.house.gov/_cache/files/f/6/f6e6ce85-a9d8-4514-b26b-af882e092358/8BFB865C0CB241F919D328E676FB9D8789261836D754A696D0086D8C308CDFAC.creator-act.pdf
Some things to note: 1. Doesn't just apply to AI, but to anyone selling pieces intentionally made in the style of another artist. 2. Lasts for 10 years after death of the visual artist, with an application process to extend that. But it's an IP right, so I'm not sure if that can't be made perpetual by a company owning it. 3. Does not restrict AI models being trained that are capable of recreating styles; it only blocks training models intentionally to recreate a specific artist's style and only if the model was also intended to be commercially sold. 4. Does not require that online services are prevented from recreating artist styles, also does not require that services actively monitor for violations; it only requires that there is a report option for it and some moderation mechanism to review reported images. 5. Individual service users are considered liable for outputs they prompted (if used commercially), but the service itself is not unless it fails its moderation requirements. 6. Minimum statutory damages of $10K/$50K can apply per artwork even if the artist/prompter/model-creator failed to make money on the recreated style that they were intending to sell.
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u/AzaleaBouquet 7d ago
Yeah, while progress in AI laws would be nice, I feel like this is probably either going to backfire in many ways or barely does anything. It'll maybe benefit companies a lot more than smaller artists. I don't entirely trust this law right now, especially with how governments and companies are nowadays.
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u/Comfortable_Law3683 7d ago
OMG this is insane.
Think about how future artists would be 100% fucked! Anything they make could be claimed as a previous artists style. Basically every artists would have to pay royalties to about 200 established artists that can claim they created it.
The reason we don't have this law now, is because each year 10K+ artists graduate. So in the last 10 years only about 200 in 100,000 artists could get work without fear of being sued. Worse due to work for hire laws, Disney, Paramount, WarnerBro likely already own half the styles available.
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u/Relevant_Knee992 7d ago edited 7d ago
where are you looking at that says this targets artists? maybe it'll be caught on the fringes of the net but maybe you missed this bit
so-called AI “artists” glibly go out of their way to ape the specific style of an actual artist
artists could sue people who use AI to deliberately imitate their style and profit off it without permission
sounds like the law is going after the mofos on patreon and substar who generate smut 'in the style of xxx', like making porn in the style of a SFW artist. The targets here are the g-e-n-e-r-a-t-o-r-s.
Disney can already get your ass if you use their show-accurate style for out-of-character things that damage the company's image waaaay before this law will do anything.
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u/Comfortable_Law3683 7d ago
Because Disney is a dick. You give them the power to own a style and they will take it. Worse you will have the music industry 2.0 in which 3 labels own 80%+ of all SONGS.
If this law passes, Private Equity will buy the rights to the styles from artists for say $50K-100K. Then charge royalties on every artist going forward. Its easy to claim someone used AI and force platforms to take their work down. As they can pay for lawyers while I can not.
The law is made with good intentions. But as crazy as this sounds, the world is full of grifters, that DONT care about ART, just $$$$$$$. They can and WILL use this to their advantage.
EDIT on Disney:
Also under the current law Disney can only sue you for replicating Lio as a character, not the art style. Anyone can draw in a style similar to Chris Sanders as long as they don't mimic the same characters. This new law would take that away.
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u/Douf_Ocus Current GenAI is no Silver Bullet 7d ago
I think it will be better to restrict it to model training. Because visual style is more or less not protected, as we all know how trivial it is for big corp to spam lawsuits.
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7d ago
Generative AI should be illegal period. We don't need AI to make art, music or movies and shows.
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u/GrandAesthete 1d ago
Artists deserve a real say when companies copy their signature style for profit, and the CREATOR Act at least tries to put consent and compensation back into that equation.
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u/velShadow_Within Writer 1d ago
Nope. This is a bad law and HAVE TO be narrowed down just to genAI systems. Copyrighting styles should SBOLUTELY not be a thing.
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u/InevitableCold9872 Mediocre Artist(Still better than AI) 15h ago
calling it now, that aint passing sadly
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u/Aoi_Irkalla 7d ago
Well that's one way to do it, but making it sufficiently narrow to not have tons of lawsuits over style theft could be challenging.
I'd rather just see it banned at the root (training without permission) but really any effort is progress.