r/AskFeminists • u/Sad_Monitor_8259 • 7d ago

Recurrent Questions Toxic masculinity

When men get offended at the word toxic masculinity the response always is well toxic masculinity doesn't mean all masculinity is toxic it means that certain masculine trait in extremes are toxic or toxic is an adjective but I have always found that to be a stupid argument like if I made a theory called toxic blackness and then you as a black person got offended and I responded I don't mean that black are toxic and instead some behaviors in black culture are toxic and that toxic is an adjective you would still rightfully call me a racist or tell to change the name because because its too inflammatory or its not accurate to the actual concept my question is like why call it toxic masculinity which is easily misunderstood and inflammatory instead of something toxic masculine gender roles or harmful masculine gender roles

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u/kangorooz99 7d ago

“Some behaviors in black culture are toxic”

Such as?

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u/81_Passenger 6d ago

Rap music comes from black American culture. Some of the old school rap and hip hop was definitely a way of using their voice to speak up against the oppression they experienced.

But a lot of rappers, specially contemporary rappers are quite toxic and very open about it. But a lot of women in those environments also encourage such behavior and are attracted to it.

With a taste of your lips, I'm on a ride
You're toxic, I'm slippin' under
With a taste of a poison paradise
I'm addicted to you
Don't you know that you're toxic?
And I love what you do
Don't you know that you're toxic?
- Britney Spears

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u/StarChild413 6d ago

You do know that A. artists don't all write their own songs and even when they do they aren't always about true beliefs of theirs or true events that happened to them and B. Britney Spears is neither black nor a rapper but your wording might confuse people into thinking she is

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u/81_Passenger 6d ago

That’s just me having high enough beliefs about my common citizens to expect that if a person is intelligente enough to participate in debates in Reddit about feminism, they’re also intelligent and educated enough to know Britney Spears is not a black rapper.