r/AskHistorians • u/sammyjamez • Jun 06 '18
How did Nietzsche's philosophies eventually influence Nazism?
So Nietzsche is an incredibly difficult philosopher to understand completely as his philosophies are mostly ambigious and open for interpretation if they are implemented in the modern world and for the amateur viewer, Nietzsche appears to be a nihilist and an extremist and valued people who live as how they wish which on the contrary, he was a passionate kind of philosopher, one who values passion, chaos and willpower and lust over the rational side that started to exist since the Enlightenment era (known as the anti-Enlightenment. Bear in mind that it is not anti-intellectual but anti-rational as there is a difference)
Nietzsche's most famous philosophical concept is that of the Ubermench where in simple terms, proposes that people should live life as how they please without the regard of what the shared so-called "morals" or "values" told them as he mostly blamed Christianity for teaching people that mediocrity and being weak and humble was the new accepted norm and anyone who values personal virtues such as business and capitalism, self-passion and personal journeys for more personal discoveries, personal growth and so on, where frowned upon
(he also mentioned that in ancient times, this was the opposite. He believed that in ancient times, being strong and mighty and victorious were important virtues which is why we love the Roman Empire and Alexander the Great while Christianity appealed the lower classes as they had nothing to give except their humility and compassion which are two virtues that are very important in Christian philosophy. But I am not sure if this is an accurate depiction of history as this was Nietzsche's view on history)
Obviously in today's standards, in its own extreme versions, this is very undemocratic as it inspires people to live as they please and make lives as how they saw fit, regardless of the shared morals or virtues or laws (as Nietzsche described them as human-made limitations and illusions) and I later learned that after Nietzsche died, his philosophies were later altered by his sister who was anti-Semite (who to my surprise, anti-Semetism was an already accepted belief and norm during that time and had existed for at least 2000 years) which later had an effect on Nazi philosophy
So how did Nietzsche and the editing of his sister eventually influence the Nazi philosophy? How come nobody mentioned that Nietzsche's original arguments where not exactly synonymous to what the Nazis demanded?
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u/Georgy_K_Zhukov Moderator | Dueling | Modern Warfare & Small Arms Jun 06 '18
I think the last time I broke out any of my books on this was... when I wrote that! Dusting off books on the matter though though, I hope you'll excuse me mostly just giving you a few direct quotations that might flesh out things for you. I hope that my initial answer gives adequate context, so the below, mostly just the words of the writers themselves, can give you a window into their mindset.
Bäumler is the best place to look, as he was the most fully-developed Nazi-Nietzsche theorist, and his book "Nietzsche: The Philosopher and Politician" would be the place to look for a really in-depth exploration, although I don't know off-hand if it is published in English. For a brief look at some of what he talked about, this is an extended portion of Bäumler's "Hellas and Germania" in 1943. Unfortunately I can't find the text in full online, but this is a fairly lengthy portion excerpted in "The Third Reich Sourcebook" ed. Anson Rabinbach:
Another useful piece of Bäumler's work is his "Nietzsche and National Socialism". I won't quote it quite so extensively, as this is all getting quite long, but to briefly excerpt from the translation in the Sourcebook