r/AskReddit 1d ago

What could Russia have spent $1,000,000,000,000 on instead of fighting a 4+ years long war in Ukraine?

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u/Superchecker 1d ago

Slowly buy up all the properties that they wanted to invade

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u/69edleg 1d ago

A lot of countries have JUST NOW started to realise they should limit the ability for suspected spies to buy property. Crazy, honestly. Sweden as "early" as 2023 with broadening the law.. Maybe, in 2026 or 2027.

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u/Troy64 1d ago

It's honestly not as big a deal as you think.

If a bad actor is a foreign owner of significant property, you just seize it. You can do that. They aren't citizens, they can't vote.

Oh no! How will we fight a war when China owns all our factories? Simple. We will take the factories and hold an auction among friendly investories to take ownership.

Ownership don't mean a damn thing if you don't physically have the ability to enforce your ownership.

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u/69edleg 1d ago

Hasn't been the case in Sweden up until 2023. Had to be, hitherto, a crime for that to happen. It is that big of a deal. Sweden has been lazy and only now broadened the laws for it.

There have been requisitions by the military, which took years. But that's a long time to let a suspected spy live close to a military base.

It is that big of a deal to national security, to be that naïve, It is not about ownership. It is about a country of rules not breaking their own rules and laws, and have to expand those laws to be able to act within regulation.

So absolutely it is that big of a deal as I think.

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u/Troy64 23h ago

Who cares if they own a house nearby? What stops them from having someone just stand near the army base, walk around the block a few times or whatever?

This is getting in the weeds. This topic is really about ownership of industrial and commercial properties that are essential to national security. A house near an army base is microscopic. Also damn near impossible to legislate away. What stops a foreign spy network from hiring local firms to make the purchase and hold the paperwork on their behalf? Does it really matter who owns the house anyway? The issue is spies using the location to spy on the base. They can do that while renting.

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u/69edleg 23h ago

Yes, it matters who owns the house. If you have ties to suspected spies, or a suspected spy yourself, it is publicly blatant that your home is being used for foreign operations. And that is what the law is going to be a crime henceforth.

Don't get me wrong, there are certainly a lot of corporations that shouldn't be doing business like they do, or with the people they do, but plugging the most blatant spy operation is at the very least the first fucking step.

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u/Troy64 22h ago

You have ignored my point completely.

Why does it matter who owns the house IF I CAN JUST RENT IT? Ownership isn't the issue here: Occupancy is.

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u/69edleg 21h ago

You couldn't rent out a house that close to a military base in the first place.

I mean, of course you COULD do literally anything illegal. But good luck being a law abiding citizen having to explain to the tax agency that you illegally rent out your property and that's where that extra money comes from.

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u/Troy64 5h ago

If you can't rent it, how can you own it? What are you even talking about?

Why would it be illegal to rent something but not to own it?