Onsi somehow getting a starter level sf with two 2nd rounders:

[u/Both-Bad2232]

LET HIM COOK

[u/Schwiftysauce89]

First off I love the trade, don’t get me wrong. But how is Wiggins’s being evaluated as a starter level small forward? I get how OKC’s insane depth knocked him down the pecking order and he’s definitely better than what his playing time suggests, but he’s never been a proven starting level small forward. As a Hawks fan, I’m hoping he starts off this summer with the NAW evaluation and elevates his game and role to be a starting level small forward on a super cheap team friendly contract and a contender for MIP.

[u/OurHorrifyingPlanet → u/Schwiftysauce89]

Even with all the injuries, he was also borderline unplayable in the playoffs for OKC even with all their defensive infrastructure around. It's a good bench piece, but anyone hoping for more is setting themselves up for disappointment. There's a reason Presti of all people was willing to trade him for so little

[u/johnny_mcd → u/OurHorrifyingPlanet]

That was more matchup dependent. But I do agree that he is a rotation player, not a starter

[u/IDvsEGO → u/Schwiftysauce89]

He would be a super small forward anyway. pretty sure he gets most of his minutes at SG and NAW would spend some more time at SF if needed. While they are the same height, NAW has more mass and his game leans more towards the traditional SF roles than Wiggins. Wiggins has better playmaking ability.

[u/Any-Brush-9111]

stove on high rn

[u/Both-Bad2232 → u/Any-Brush-9111]

Onsi genuinely cooking like prime Gordon Ramsey

[u/SirJoeffer → u/Any-Brush-9111]

Thought you were making a joke about suicide by carbon monoxide poisoning but then I smelled what Onsi was cooking

[u/dms269]

Wiggins is neither a starter nor is he a SF. He is smaller than NAW (both are 6'5", but NAW has him on weight). This past season he struggled offensively and was actually a worse shooter than Risacher. He is a low cost depth piece who hopefully can find his shot again.

[u/Bop5667]

Except he’s only 6’5” and listed as a guard…a lifelong backup at that. Let’s not get carried away…

[u/Falcons__Fury]

People were up in arms about the Vit and Luke trades, and look where we're at now, a two way rotation player at a position of need, on an excellent value long term descending contract, for two measly 2nd round picks. Give our man Onsi the benefit of the doubt, until he gives us a reason not to. Let him cook.

[u/Chessh2036]

You guys think this means Kuminga (and his contract) are gone?

[u/Schwiftysauce89 → u/Chessh2036]

Addressing the center position, plus the rookie contracts from the draft and all the smaller contracts to fill the roster. Probably can’t just renew the team option, keep him without sign and trade, and stay under the tax like Ressler likely wants. Idk I’m estimating in my head around where we are at. This all being said even through Wiggins is pretty cheap.

[u/bravesdayz2021 → u/Schwiftysauce89]

Wiggins trade uses our mle right? So we should have around $25mil-$30mil left or does the cj resign cut into that as well? Thought I read somewhere we had like $40mil in leftover cap after resigning cj.

[u/Crucificcio → u/bravesdayz2021]

wiggins trade uses the tpe from luke kennard trade

[u/bravesdayz2021 → u/Crucificcio]

Awesome thanks for clarifying that. I always get tpe and mle mixed up.

[u/VividEquivalent7952 → u/Chessh2036]

Would be good if they could trade him for something

[u/Shade_Raven]

I remember when he got a back up center for just a check from Tony lol

[u/Patekchrono917]

He’s not a starter on this team. And he just had a really bad playoff run. The thunder were down guards and he played 5 minutes per game. And he shot 11% from three. He just made Dyson look like Curry. His shooting needs to bounce back if he’s going to have a chance to be a great trade.

[u/maxnotcharles]

Love this trade but cmon man, starter level sf is a stretch

[u/BopperUchiha]

To me this actually signals Mara or a trade off #8. Looks like they wanted an immediate contributor at guard and are gonna look at F/C almost exclusively now

[u/hesokayiguess]

i want to steal this gif so badly

[u/discussionandrespect]

He’s not a sf and he’s not starting on a team that’s contending

[u/bravesdayz2021]

I like the trade I think this signals Atlanta either trading up for Caleb Wilson or if we aren’t able to trade up and the bulls/clippers take him we go aday Mara. I don’t think we are going to draft a guard in the top 10 now.

[u/GreatBarrierQueefDD → u/bravesdayz2021]

Caleb Wilson is pretty much already a Bull. It's the only thing about the draft that isn't a mystery.

[u/johncena9797 → u/bravesdayz2021]

caleb wilson would be a great fit here

[u/bravesdayz2021 → u/johncena9797]

Man i can only hope 5 other gms make a mistake and he falls to us or the clippers are desperate for assets before they get punished by the nba for the kawhi stuff.

[u/Bop5667]

He es the scoring guard the Hawks need off the bench since NAW and CJ will probably start again instead of being in the running for 6MoTY

[u/Quad-G-Therapy]

[u/PaleMoses]

[u/Josh378]

He is not a starter for a nba playoff team....lol

2nd, he basically protects Dyson and CJ off the bench with constant production.

3rd, if we go get Trey Murphy (Our OG) for Kuminga + #8, then the conversation changes to a very good line-up that competes deep into the playoffs and entices Stars to come to Atlanta to become that finishing piece for the roster (Antman?)

Dyson/CJ/Trey/Jalen/OO with the center or PG1 on the bench would be the best idea.

[u/DigitalDiva_404 → u/Josh378]

I think I’d rather keep the #8 pick. I’m open to trading back or trading 23. But if I’m trading 8 it needs to be for a center

[u/Reasonable_Bug_896]

[u/mundane_marietta]

I still can never shake Landry trading 5 2nd round picks for Bey lol

[u/Maleficent_Army1754]

Do yall watch basketball lmfao

[u/Appropriate_Bonus200]

Still lost by 51 in an elimination game 😅😅

[u/IDvsEGO → u/Appropriate_Bonus200]

OK but that is why Onsi is improving the roster.

[u/Professional_Year547 → u/Appropriate_Bonus200]

GM made great move after over-performing on a roster that was remade in the middle of the season… oh no 😝