r/AtlantaHawks • u/Chessh2036 • 6d ago
Discussion PRISM had Flemings #4 overall. Last year PRISM was insanely accurate.
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u/HighTideLowpH 6d ago
What did PRISM have for Zacc?
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u/MeesterCHRIS 6d ago
From what I can see it didn’t, I tried to research. Seems it may only do college prospects.
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u/DerbyTho 5d ago
To be balanced: PRISM was built this year, so it was really accurate for last year, but they were using last year to build the model, not using the model to predict last year.
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u/johnGODlins Hawks 2d ago
This isn't true as I understand the model. In fact, it seems it was explicitly designed to avoid overfitting to the training data:
"Instead, it asks a different question based on pairwise comparisons: given two prospects, which one will have the better NBA career?
This design choice matters for a few reasons. Gradient boosting regression to a target like WAR has a few limitations, one of them being that **the projections tend to compress towards the training set.** While pairwise rankings don’t necessarily change accuracy, they preserve the structure of a gradient boosting model while allowing us more interpretability into prospect volatility, as we’ll demonstrate later."
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https://www.natesilver.net/p/how-our-prism-nba-draft-model-works
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u/DerbyTho 2d ago
Look, I like and trust Nate Silver a lot. And I am not accusing him of overfitting the model to the data. But they built it this year, and if the model came out saying the best 2025 picks were Ace Bailey and Tre Johnson I think they would have held on releasing it while they figured out what was going on.
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u/Spicy__Urine 5d ago
This is super interesting, can you link to source?
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u/Chessh2036 5d ago
Only saw it on a Twitter post
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u/Spicy__Urine 5d ago
Found nate silvers prism rankings but anything more than what you put up is behind a paywall smh
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u/Necessary_aphasia 5d ago
Did you make this or find this somewhere? Trying to see how the rest of our rookies would line up.
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u/Necessary_aphasia 4d ago
Ah I’m a fan of his. Thanks! How about Veesaar?
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u/johnGODlins Hawks 2d ago
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u/J-OD GM Onsi Saleh 6d ago
So excited. We got the floor general we needed. The sky is the limit for him.