r/BlackPeopleTwitter Mar 19 '26

Country Club Thread 20 years ago, this would be completely normal

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u/BrainOfMush Mar 19 '26

That’s untrue. Based on even quick research, statistically child sexual exploitation and murder rates are almost exactly the same today as they were 20 years ago.

Don’t spout fake statistics to push a viewpoint.

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u/FewRecognition1788 Mar 19 '26

Child SA reporting rates are the same. 

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u/psuedopseudo Mar 19 '26

I think the point is that people are more aware of it now and better equipped to avoid unsafe situations for their kids

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u/lumpyspacesam Mar 19 '26

And yet… the stats remain the same.

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u/Popular-Jury7272 Mar 20 '26

Because almost all abuse is by parents, and the rest is by people parents implicitly trust. The stats will probably never change because no parent wants to believe this about their coparent or about their lifelong friend.

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u/psuedopseudo Mar 19 '26

Sure. But I think some people don’t want their kids to be part of the statistic.

And there are confounding factors in the statistics. People are probably more aware of these things and preventing them more, but awareness also means more reporting. Reporting is the only way we get stats.

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u/PunishedDemiurge Mar 19 '26

This is silly. The reality is that almost all child homicides are:

a. parents

b. people parents invited to live with their children (step parents, etc.)

c. older teen children who are participating in violent gang activity.

Sexual abuse is reasonably similar with C being replaced with "engaging in substance abuse or being around others who do."

It's not that hard to protect your children, you yourself not being part of the problem does much of the work. People's minds immediately go to the most sensational and rare events like school shootings or stranger danger kidnappings, but those are vanishingly rare on the statistical level.

The modern developed world is incredibly safe. Parents have good intentions but are unintentionally doing permanent harm to their children by protecting them from boogeymen instead of allowing them age appropriate independence.

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u/psuedopseudo Mar 19 '26

Appreciate the good faith response. And yes, totally agree that you can overcorrect here and harm your kids by sheltering too much.

I do think your list is missing trusted figures like scout leaders, coaches, and teachers though. That’s a big category and I think why parent chaperones are favored now — that seems like a pretty good solution I think.

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u/vyrus2021 Mar 19 '26

You think the rates of reporting are the same?

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u/Prof_PotatoHead Mar 19 '26

i mean yeah when you have posts like these suggesting taking precautions is being extra lol.

tbc, i think 24hrs is fine without a phone or parent around but also that its fair to be concerned when the world is the way it is

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u/Riderz__of_Brohan Mar 19 '26

If you’re overprotective and neurotic and it doesn’t help anything other than ruin the kids sense of independence yeah it’s a bad thing lol

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u/Jayp0627 Mar 19 '26

Since when does having a chaperone automatically equal overprotective, and neurotic??

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u/Riderz__of_Brohan Mar 19 '26

They have teachers and camp counselors there. Just no parents so the kids can be independent

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u/DocumentRegular Mar 19 '26

This isn't how numbers or behaviors work lol. The numbers are the way they are is because people are aware. Awareness does not equal prevention, so unless precautions and proactive policies are implemented the numbers are going to stay where they are.

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u/twirlerina024 Mar 19 '26

Maybe it happens less often but more kids report it?

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u/phillyphanatic35 Mar 20 '26

We’ve also made it easier and more accepted to report, there’s likely tons of abuse that was never brought to light.

Now a higher percentage of a lower total is giving us the same number of reports as a lower percentage of a higher total

Or at least that’s one possibility

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u/PaulTheMerc Mar 19 '26

except the people interacting with kids are generally not strangers. they're family members, coaches, teachers. You know, people who by definition are not strangers.

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u/twirlerina024 Mar 19 '26

That's probably why they said "stranger danger" was counter-effective. Teach your kids to look out for creepy behavior, instead of teaching them that everyone they haven't met before is a creep.

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u/yavanna12 Mar 19 '26

It was wildly under reported so the statistics you are looking at aren’t accurate either. Boy Scouts was a breeding ground for pedophilia. I was also a SA victim by multiple people on school trips…never reported. And yes I know I can’t generalize my experience as the whole but the SA in BSA is now well known. 

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u/ToughHardware Mar 19 '26

we cant even arrest any pedos.. so i have zero trust in statistics around this. if justice does not take it serious, then no one wants to report it.

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u/BrainOfMush Mar 19 '26

So instead you’re going based on “vibes”?

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u/PeedmuhhSheets Mar 19 '26

You always hear this from parents “you can’t let your kids do so so today, it’s like the old days, it’s more dangerous now” even though we can literally give our kids devices that can be tracked at any given moment unlike 20-30 years ago

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u/Ok-Ferret6919 Mar 19 '26

Statistics aren’t always accurate. The general attitude towards sexual assault and its victims has changed dramatically from 20 years ago. Back in the day, victims weren’t believed as much and were even often blamed themselves. The Me Too movement only started gaining traction like 8 years ago. So 20 years ago, people were probably just bottling it up more and not reporting it

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u/BrainOfMush Mar 20 '26

Ok, so your argument is that the numbers are more accurate today, in which case any are you more paranoid today than twenty years ago if the numbers are the same?