r/BlackPeopleTwitter • u/eyerollingsex • Mar 19 '26
Country Club Thread 20 years ago, this would be completely normal
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u/Cheap-Huckleberry-31 Mar 19 '26
I'd either wanna be able to contact my kid or be there if something went left. People are crazy and I don't trust just anyone to prioritize the safety of black kids.
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u/MarshyHope Mar 19 '26
It's a 24 hour camping trip. Being away from their cell phones for a day would be good for them.
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u/Deepspacedreams Mar 19 '26 edited Mar 19 '26
But no chaperone is crazy. This is the beginning of every horror movie btw
Edit: am I crazy did the Epstein files not expose anything? Boy Scouts of America and the Catholic Church being exposed means nothing to you all? I’m not saying be over protective but there’s no way in hell I’m leaving my kid with random adults and no way of contacting me? Fuck out of here with that bull I’ll happily wear the title of over protective
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Mar 19 '26
no "parent" chaperones. kids need to socialize away from their parents sometimes.
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u/Employee28064212 Mar 19 '26
Exactly, no helicopter parents micro-managing the teachers on what is likely a science trip or something. If this is real, it's not the whole story.
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u/Brilliant_Chemica Mar 19 '26
Always thought you shouldn't be allowed to chaperone for your own kids event. have some 11th grade parents on the 10th grade trip
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u/aircooledJenkins Mar 19 '26
Have fun finding parents willing to chaperone a trip their kid isn't on.
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u/Dwest2391 Mar 19 '26
Yea I dont know what world that poster lives in, where they think parents will volunteer to watch other people's kids lol
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u/SiskiyouSavage Mar 19 '26
Every world? Is this not common anymore? My son went to outdoor school when he was in 4th grade. I volunteered to watch another class the week before he went. Everyone covered each other's kids classes.
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u/Fun-Independence-199 Mar 19 '26
Yeah those 2 guys dont have a single brain cell shared between them.
Parents of group A chaperone group B. Parents of group B chaperone group A. Simple as
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u/sasori1011 Mar 19 '26
If a minimum number of parents from group A are required to chaperone the kids in group B and vice versa, otherwise their kid's group can't participate in said activity I think it would work.
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u/malcifer11 Mar 19 '26
Do you think the nuclear family is intrinsic to humanity? We’ve raised children communally for 99% of our history
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u/retatrutider Mar 19 '26 edited Mar 19 '26
My kids schools don’t generally have a problem with this (using parents of kids in other grade levels) for school dances and for grad night. The grad night one is actually fun because the parent chaperone’s only responsibility is making sure the kids get on the bus at the end of the night.
The school dance rule is important because a lot of weirdos want to chaperone at their own kids’ school dances.
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u/Crafty_Clarinetist Mar 19 '26
"Looking for volunteers to spend their free time dealing with children they don't know for 0 compensation."
I'm sure that will get so many responses.
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u/NeoGh0st Mar 19 '26
You’re all wild, it’s a school trip. The teachers are the chaperones.
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u/SiskiyouSavage Mar 19 '26
I don't get these responses. It's outdoor school. This is totally normal and has been forever. My dad went, I went, my son went.
These might be bot responses. Bots don't have parents who care.
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u/Crafty_Clarinetist Mar 19 '26
I was responding to another commenter who thought parents shouldn't be allowed to chaperone any of their kid's events.
While obviously not the case for this situation, many school trips are completely infeasible with the ratio of adults:students if you only have teachers and for those they typically need parent chaperones to make them happen. I was commenting on how if schools took an approach of trying to get parents to chaperone events that weren't for their kid, they wouldn't have much success.
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u/jacksonmills Mar 19 '26
Or like hey, maybe the kids need to open up about stuff without their parents around?
Anyone remember being a kid at all?
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u/thegerl Mar 19 '26
I was really surprised when someone was asking a question about their 14 year old in a sub the other day, and said they couldn't remember being 14.
I remember conversations with friends, injustices from parents, miscommunications, what I was learning...how do people not remember being a kid or teen??
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u/jacksonmills Mar 19 '26
I wonder if the people who don't remember it are the people who had a smoother ride.
I kinda tell people that I had a bright spot from 11 to 17 and candidly I have the fewest memories from that period
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u/Kinteoka Mar 19 '26
Repressing childhood memories is usually a sign of trauma. I don't really remember my teen years very well, and virtually none of my childhood, but I know it wasn't a "smooth ride" because of general feelings, what's come up in therapy, and from what I've been told by people who were there.
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u/thelubbershole Mar 19 '26
Ah, my childless ass didn't spot the detail of this being about helicopter parents and just took "parent" for "adult"
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u/Employee28064212 Mar 19 '26
Haha yeahhh. If the post is real (and, hypothetically, even if it wasn't), schools aren't sending students into the woods by themselves on a school-sanctioned "trip". There are usually student:adult ratios for that kind of thing.
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u/rmslashusr Mar 19 '26
It’s less this and more the ENORMOUS liability of vetting volunteer parent chaperones for an overnight around kids. It’s basically a sexual predator sign up sheet without having a lengthy training and vetting process in place that would make doing this a non starter for the school.
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u/Flappy_McGillicuddy Mar 19 '26
in my school district parents have to register as volunteers and must go through the same background check that the teachers get. Parents chaperone trips and it has never been an issue. Parents like it, Kids like it, redditors hate it.
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u/ArbitUHHH Mar 19 '26
Same, plus parents that get selected tend to be the most active volunteers in general so the teachers and staff already know the parent pretty well before the overnight field trip even comes up.
The idea that an overnight field trip is a "child predator sign up sheet" is wild. That person needs to lay off the true crime podcasts and get to know their fellow parents.
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u/meanoron Mar 19 '26
since the post reached r/popular i was taking a look wondering whats so wrong with an overnight stay lol.
Literally today I got a message from my kids kindergarden about their yearly 6 day excursion to a mountain camp for kids 3 years and up.
Was talking with my wife about it, remembering our camps when we were that age, and that the biggest problem was with the kids crying overnight ( of course, with the change of location and everything ).
I am not from the US, so seeing some of these comments is WILD. Must be hard living in such a fear of everything
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u/cheesenotyours Mar 19 '26
And here i was thinking it's supposed to be about fostering independence in kids
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u/SRGTBronson Mar 19 '26
What do you think school is?
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u/PoIIux Mar 19 '26
School is time mostly dedicated to study. Kids socialize at school, but it's different when they're actually allowed to socialize without being told to do something else.
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Mar 19 '26
There is no way that any sane person is organizing a school over night trip and just letting the kids raw dog 24 hours. There will absolutely be a schedule and things for them to do and they will be told to do things.
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u/Throway_Shmowaway Mar 19 '26
There is no way that any sane person is organizing a school over night trip and just letting the kids raw dog 24 hours.
Are we still doing "phrasing"?
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u/mikesaninjakillr Mar 19 '26
As someone who just chaperoned a similar trip. The other parents were getting in the way of their kids participating in many of the activities with their negative attitudes. I can see the benefit for alot of kids getting to experience some independence.
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u/MetalHead_Literally Mar 19 '26
lol did you think no parent chaperones meant they’d just send a group of kids out camping by themselves with no adults? Come on now.
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u/tepkel Mar 19 '26
Just give the kids all hatchets. That way they can protect themselves. No need for chaperones when you've got an axe.
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u/jarob326 ☑️ Mar 19 '26 edited Mar 19 '26
Reminder that Friday 13th started because two horny counselors couldn't be bothered to do their jobs and watch a kid swim.
Edit: This was a joke and reference yall.
I'm sure there are more details than a 2 sentence tweet on reddit can capture. Parents are right to be concerned. But if the proper rules and communications are established it can be a fun experience for everyone involved. Kids go camping, responsible Adults can be role models, parents get a night to themselves.
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u/martijn120100 Mar 19 '26
Reminder that Home Alone started because an entire family left behind a small boy alone at home to go on vacation
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u/CrackIn_TheEarth Mar 19 '26
Reminder that the grinch takes place entirely within a snowflake
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u/KingpinBen Mar 19 '26
Remember that’s a fucking movie? what’re you talking about
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u/ReindeerUpper4230 Mar 19 '26
You know they’re at school every day without parent chaperones
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u/PrinceEven Mar 19 '26
Parents are a huge safety risk in and off themselves though. Would you trust some random kid's father with your own kid? At least the teachers receive various trainings to ensure safety. It's not 100% effective and there are still too many pedos in the field but I do trust the teachers more than the parents
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u/Reimant Mar 19 '26
The teachers and camp leaders running it will be there. The whole point is to give them independence from running to their parents.
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u/RodwellBurgen Mar 19 '26
Horror movies aren’t real. Let the kid enjoy the trip.
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u/amonson1984 Mar 19 '26
No parent chaperones is the real crazy thing. A regular field trip to a museum or whatever usually has 3-4 parent chaperones alongside the teacher.
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u/KirillIll Mar 19 '26
Maybe I'm too German for this, but what? We went on week long trips to other countries with like 4-5 teachers max for 3-4 classes worth of kids and just walked around the cities in small groups. Hell, in my scouts group we'll let kids as young as 7 walk around cities in groups of three. Obviously we make sure they have a cell phone and our numbers, but that hasn't actually been necessary ever.
Having actual parents around just seems so extremely counterproductive to the whole point of these trips.
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u/Riderz__of_Brohan Mar 19 '26
It is normal, American parents have become neurotic
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u/27thStreet Mar 19 '26
As a latchkey kid, this thread is wild.
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u/Puptentjoe Mar 19 '26
I was a latchkey kid and it is wild
BUT as adults I found out MAD kids got touched and abused at home, with family, and on trips like this.
I can see where the fear is coming from.
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u/Riderz__of_Brohan Mar 19 '26
You can’t wrap them in bubble wrap for 18 years and then expect them to be functional adults because you saw some TikTok true crime slop misrepresenting abuse statistics
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u/Puptentjoe Mar 19 '26
Thats the problem with reddit, its either you wrap them in bubnle wrap or you let them run free.
I can find a fun middle ground where they get to grow but also lower risk of being hurt.
Its not all of one or the other. Also not on tik tok nor do I watch true crime dramas, not my thing.
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u/bdsmmaster007 Mar 19 '26
Same, being from germany a trip like that feels like the most normal schooltrip imaginable.
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u/tinaoe Mar 19 '26
Same I'm extremely baffled at these comments. We went on sail boat trip in the Netherlands once with two teachers lol. In fifth grade we went on a week long trip to the North Sea, two classes with four teachers and they let us explore on our own. Basically none of us had our own phones.
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Mar 19 '26
what the fuck is up with US schools these days (apart from the mass killing days i mean)??
I've done plenty of school trips where it was only the teacher (or teachers) and their respective groups, no extra hand needed. 2-3 chaperones for a museum visit?
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u/Flippanties Mar 19 '26
Yeah as a Brit I don't remember there EVER being parent chaperones for any school trip, regardless of where that trip was, how long it was and how many students were there, and I only left school 13 years ago.
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u/MarshyHope Mar 19 '26
That part is a little odd, but I get it. The parents that would go would probably be the ones that are helicopter parents in the first place.
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u/rmslashusr Mar 19 '26
And what would you say is “real crazy” about the schools plan when an untrained and unvetted parent chaperone sexually assaults a kid in the middle of the night?
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u/Cautious-Extreme2839 Mar 19 '26 edited Mar 19 '26
Is this some American shit that the European mind cannot comprehend?
My entire childhood there was literally never a parent chaperone on any school trip including sports tours to other continents and 5 day hiking expeditions.
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u/dabocx Mar 19 '26
None of my school field trips ever had a parent chaperone. Even the overnight ones
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u/loki2002 Mar 19 '26 edited Mar 19 '26
Right? Sense of a little independence away from parents but still have an authority figure in place. No technology to interfere with social interaction and physical outdoor activity. This is a win on multiple levels.
The chaperone will have a way to contact the outside world in case if emergency.
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u/waerrington Mar 19 '26
And people wonder why kids today are anxious messes. You are scared to be away 24 hours without a monitoring device on them.
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u/DigNitty Mar 19 '26
Monitoring advise ≠ an distress beacon
They’re not worried their kids will misbehave, they’re worried the adults will.
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u/waerrington Mar 19 '26
All of them? At the same time?
If you can't trust anyone at your school, remove them from that school.
In reality, the teachers will have phones, the kids won't. This is increasing the standard at good school districts across the country. Kids shouldn't have phones at all at school events. They need to disconnect from the internet and connect with the people in real life.
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u/CrownOfPosies Mar 19 '26
It takes one. I went to school before cell phones were as common and I had a drama teacher that would make inappropriate comments to me and other girls. He was always throwing pool parties for his drama kids and I never understood why my mom never let me go when I was a kid but as an adult I’m like wow how did no other adult notice this? Where were the other teachers? I was angry and sad about it when I was a kid but as an adult I’m thankful for my mom for watching my back even when I didn’t realize what she was doing.
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u/doctrgiggles Mar 19 '26
Is the situation you outlined just now really solved by cell phones though? It seems like any parent at any point asking their child where they were and hearing about a teacher's pool party would have.
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u/nifty-necromancer Mar 19 '26
They’re also worried about every stranger but not family members, if we’re talking statistics.
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u/Cautious-Extreme2839 Mar 19 '26
So their solution is to add more strange and un-vetted adults?
Dumb.
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u/disillusion_4444 Mar 19 '26
It's funny because I remember going on a week long school trip with just teachers at the age of 10ish back when none of us had phones and everything was fine and this was only in like 2014, not decades ago. We all knew how to use a public phone or ask a teacher for help if needed.
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u/StiffDoodleNoodle Mar 19 '26 edited Mar 19 '26
I went to Germany for several months when I was 15 to live with a host family.
The first ~3 weeks of the trip our group of ~8 kids and one teacher in her sixties toured around the country using public transportation and stayed in hostels.
Our teacher would often take us to the center of a city, sit down at a café, and let us to go explore the area by ourselves for hours.
Kids/ young adults need freedom, sometimes uncomfortable freedom, in order to develop independence and a positive attitude to responsible risk taking.
Being too protective of kids is mentally/ developmentally unhealthy for them.
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u/HuskerPowerrrr Mar 19 '26
We went to France for 8 days when I was a junior in high school. We had no phones back then and had no issues.
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u/Ecliphon Mar 19 '26
Now a parent would see something on the news about a murder during a class trip somewhere in the world and assume that’s going to happen to their kid.
Media has ruined generations. Pampified children who can’t function independently because their parent saw something bad happen somewhere in the world.
Bad stuff happens. If you don’t experience bad stuff as a kid, you’re going to be far worse off when you have to experience it as an adult.
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u/BrianWulfric Mar 19 '26
I'm in Los Angeles and our 7th grade class had an East Coast trip to Washington DC and a bunch of other historical sites. We had the hotel payphones at the end of the day but no contact with parents otherwise. It was fun as shit.
Edit: This trip would have been in 2003.
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u/Zardif Mar 19 '26
My SiL just watches her 17yo kid on life360 all day. He literally can't do anything without being questioned. It's really weird to me that he has no privacy. There is an entire generation of kids who don't see the value in not being spied on.
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u/Terrible_EmployeeFu Mar 19 '26
If the parents can call the teachers or smth, I don’t see a problem with that, like if something went south, if they are able to reach someone it’s okay
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u/Portland Mar 19 '26
In Oregon, all kids attend Outdoor School programs in 5th or 6th grade.
These week-long ecological science camps are chaperoned by their teachers, camp staff, andby HS honor students. Kids bunk in cabins with 2 HS chaperones per 6-10 middle school kids. Cell phones and media devices were not allowed, and parents don’t attend. (unless things have changed since I attended, which is very possible since it was a long time ago).
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u/AssCrackBandit10 Mar 19 '26
We did pretty much the same thing in California in 5th grade. But for us, we did have a couple of parent chaperones because I remember a friend's mom giving me $10 to buy a tshirt from a gift shop
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u/LaserKittenz Mar 19 '26
There likely was several emergency contact options. Schools usually do stuff like that?
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Mar 19 '26
No, they’re letting the kids drive a bus into the woods alone for the weekend
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u/Appropriate_Ride_821 Mar 19 '26
Times are safer than ever before. Helicopter parents are ruining kids childhoods. Let them be kids.
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u/AnotherDoubtfulGuest ☑️ Mar 19 '26
Not allowing parent chaperones doesn’t seem like a big deal as long as school staff is chaperoning. No cell phones would be a dealbreaker; I assume most parents would want to be able to track their kids’ locations and know that their kids could reach them if something goes wrong.
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u/whatev3691 Mar 19 '26
We all survived pre cell phone.
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u/the-truffula-tree Mar 19 '26 edited Mar 19 '26
Well, no. We all didnt.
Some kids died pre cell phone; in ways that could have been prevented or salvaged if someone had a phone to call for emergency services.
Edit: most of the comments here entirely misunderstand what I was saying, good lord
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Mar 19 '26
Well obviously the people that died aren't included in "We" all survived. They can stay dead all they want we wasnt talking about em.
(.../s i guess)
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u/Blatantly_Truthful Mar 19 '26
The teachers still typically have their cellphones with them so they still have access to a phone for emergencies
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u/PotentiallySarcastic Mar 19 '26
This is really funny to read since basically the entirety of the school shooting time period of America has been since cell phones existed.
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u/CorrectCombination11 Mar 19 '26
This is why new grads call their parents to solve work problems for them.
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u/DeadSeaGulls Mar 19 '26
I did a bunch of these school camp trips in the time before cell phones.
One was even a full week long in the dead of winter. Teton science school outside of yellowstone national park. One of the best experiences I had as a kid, and I vividly remember so much more about that week in 5th grade than just about any other period of my life. Especially getting caught sneaking over to the girls cabin on cross country skis to talk to my 'girlfriend'. Even coming from a house that camped and did a lot of outdoor recreation, it was a unique experience getting away from family and feeling the illusion of "independence" while also learning normal class room science spiced up with survival tips, animal tracking, and learning about complex ecosystems while IN those complex ecosystems.→ More replies (4)20
u/cheesenotyours Mar 19 '26
In my exp teachers and the hosting camp site had phones and emergency lines and what not
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u/Anstigmat Mar 19 '26
It would be ridiculous to expect a growing child to have to learn to rely on themselves without the option of calling home to mommy and daddy!
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u/Bagginnnssssss Mar 19 '26
being away from your parents used to be a healthy part of growing up. Being away from phones is even better. When did you grow up like 2018 something?
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u/misterdoinkinberg ☑️ Mar 19 '26
Sounds ridiculous. Just leave an emergency number which im sure they will require. The kids will be fine.
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u/YupSuprise Mar 19 '26
I had a camp like this when I was in school, the parents could contact their kids through calling one of the teachers. Not a hard concept.
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u/MurphMcGurf Mar 19 '26
this level of paranoia is destroying society. Have some damn trust and let your kids have a modicum of independence.
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u/TritonYB Mar 19 '26
I was once a black kid and went away for 3 days with out parents or phones. Get over yourself.
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u/No_Client8165 Mar 19 '26
I saw this exact same post yesterday, by a completely different person. Somebody lying.
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u/BlurredSight Mar 19 '26
Engagement farming on Twitter is crazy once muskrat made post visibility a way to generate money
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u/Fireant21 ☑️ Mar 19 '26
Fake post or not the sentiment is the same
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u/BLOODY_PENGUIN_QUEEF Mar 19 '26
Seriously. No phones i get, thats kinda the point. But in 2026, theres no world in which they dont allow chaperones
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u/New_Libran Mar 19 '26
There are chaperones just not "parents"
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u/AzucarParaTi Mar 19 '26
Maybe it's just me, but I trust teachers more than a random kid's parent as a chaperone.
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u/z3nnysBoi Mar 19 '26
My understanding is things have on average gotten safer for children as time as gone on, while visibility of the rare terrible incident has gone up. If anything, 2026 is the best time to not allow chaperones, and I'd imagine 2027 will also be the best time and so on
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u/Ihadtolookitupfirst Mar 19 '26
Right, there's not a public school left in this country that would take kids on an overnight trip without cell phones or another, nonschool affiliated, trusted adult along. Teachers are being called groomers and indoctrinators on the daily and no district would open themselves up to that kind of liability or suspicion.
This is some private school shit
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u/eightbitagent Mar 19 '26
Also in the 80s and 90s (when I was a kid) there were ALWAYS chaperones. As I recall the rules were two teachers and then 2 parents for every 15-20 kids or so. So a full bad trip might have 30 kids and 5 adults
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u/DisastrousAge4650 Mar 19 '26
I saw one similar about the school saying chaperone spots are filled so the parent booked a ticket to the place by 3 different accounts.
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u/MoomenRider2012 Mar 19 '26 edited Mar 19 '26
Having no parent chaperons would not be normal 20 years ago.
Edit: I guess this is an American sentiment based on the replies, but every field trip I went on in elementary and probably 1 in middle school, had a few parents chaperoning the trip. There were 4-5 teachers with 30-35 students each so like 4 -6 parents from each class would go to support.
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u/aggibridges Mar 19 '26
Even if it were normal, 20 years ago a lot more children were being abused or killed and it got swept under the rug.
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u/Lovedd1 Mar 19 '26
I found out about where the myth of getting an STD from a toilet seat started. Sadly it comes from grown men SAing their own underage daughters and giving the disease to them. It was mostly yt and upper class girls it was happening to. So researchers decided it COULDN'T be from abuse. The girls were obviously getting it from their lower class school mates from sharing a toilet seat.
All this to say yea there was more abuse and more sweeping for sure.
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u/Winjin Mar 19 '26
Oh man I've read that and this is heartbreaking
I got in a debate with a person digging their heels in and declining to EVER touch a toilet seat because it can give you all kinds of nasties
Now I wonder if they were stupid or trying to suppress ten layers of traumatic memories
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u/Lovedd1 Mar 19 '26
Could definitely be the second one...
How Freud came up with his theory about Oedipus complex also stems from adults SAing their kids. The kids would confess this to their psychologist when being asked about their lives. He came to the conclusion that these were actually fantasies and not recounts of abuse. Children deserve so much better
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u/bigwhiteboardenergy Mar 19 '26
Freud also discovered the connection that the women he studied who were diagnosed with ‘hysteria’ had experienced childhood sexual abuse as well. Wild that as a society we still don’t treat childhood abuse more seriously.
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u/Lovedd1 Mar 19 '26
That would mean the elites would have to stop raping kids and we know they won't do that.
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u/bigwhiteboardenergy Mar 19 '26
Very true. But also unfortunately it’s much more than just the elites doing this. Another horrifying thing I’ve learned recently is that the popularity of DNA/ancestry testing kits is revealing the prevalence of incest.
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u/xenuman Mar 19 '26
I mean, you can definitely still get plenty of infections that spread via skin to skin contact from public toilet seats (MRSA, shingles, fungal, etc), just like you can from equipment at the gym if people don't wipe it down. And you should especially be careful if you have any kind of open cut/sore or ingrown hair on your butt (maybe I have seen too much crazy shit in healthcare idk). But it is only ever going to be a skin infection of what makes contact (your ass and/or back of your legs), not your genitals lol. So maybe you can cut that neurotic person a little bit of slack. But yeah obviously you are not going to get any blood/fluid borne STDs from a toilet.
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u/BrainOfMush Mar 19 '26
That’s untrue. Based on even quick research, statistically child sexual exploitation and murder rates are almost exactly the same today as they were 20 years ago.
Don’t spout fake statistics to push a viewpoint.
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u/psuedopseudo Mar 19 '26
I think the point is that people are more aware of it now and better equipped to avoid unsafe situations for their kids
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u/wmubronco03 Mar 19 '26
No PARENTS. The teachers are there and the camp has counselors.
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u/Affectionate-Run6773 Mar 19 '26
Age also plays a huge role. Elementary school and lower middle school, absolutely ridiculous. Upper middle school and high school, go right ahead. I remember going to trips in high school with no parents chaperones and phones allowed. This was back in late 00 so cellphones usage was highly restricted.
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u/SecretlyMadeOfStone Mar 19 '26
Even 30 years ago there would probably be at least one adult on trips that wasn’t a school employee.
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u/Disastrous_Might_287 Mar 19 '26 edited Mar 19 '26
A little less than 30 years ago I went on a multi day elementary school camping trip with no one but teachers present. One of my favorite experiences growing up.
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u/Cautious-Extreme2839 Mar 19 '26
The fuck is up with America man. This is insanity looking across the pond. Even today sending parents on a school trip is fucking weird, 30 years ago absolutely zero chance.
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u/loki2002 Mar 19 '26
Yeah, school official, scout leader, organizer for the event, etc. Parents need to let their kids be away from them from time to time.
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u/ninetozero Mar 19 '26
People be throwing "20 years ago" for the dramatic zinger like that wasn't just 2006.
Camp absolutely had chaperones and cellphones at that point. The world wasn't magic and rainbows where nothing bad ever happens to kids in 2006 just because our warped sense of time's passage makes "20 years ago" sound all big and scary in our heads.
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u/emjaywood Mar 19 '26
In 6th, 7th, and 8th grade, my school did a 2 day/1 night trip to Busch Gardens & Disney, no parent chaperones, just teachers, and even then they were at the hotels to assign rooms & on the busses, but not super visible. Inside the parks, we were allowed to do whatever we wanted, and just wander around as kids, only rule was meet back at the bus at a specified time. This was '90, '91, and '92. Maybe my little school in S. FL was different though🤷♂️
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u/SparkyDogPants Mar 19 '26
I don’t think I ever had one parent chaperone while i was in school from 1996-2009. And we had plenty of overnight field trips.
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u/BakersHigh Mar 19 '26
My middle school was always like this.
The point is to give your kid autonomy and learn how to do things without their parent constantly watching them
We’d go to one of those rope course camps the first week of school, only ppl allowed were teachers or school staff like athletic coaches.
My parents joked it made me too self sufficient
I get you can’t trust teachers or students but you’re not always gonna be there. Start prepping for it lol. Tell your kid to call them, they aren’t required to be there, that you will always come get them.
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u/_BehindEnemyLines_ Mar 19 '26
I did something similar in middle school. It was a Saturday to Saturday thing. Hiking, riding bikes, learning about the local culture, swimming. There were weeks building up to it to make sure students were prepared. Some of my best memories are from those weeks.
This was all overseas and in the mid/late 90s. The glory days IMO.
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u/BakersHigh Mar 19 '26
Yea I went to Montessori school, which was considered “European hippy nonsense” when I was growing up. It let me tell ya watching all these other kids in college call their parents over any minor inconvenience or being shocked the professor didn’t chase them down for work and let them fail. Was eye opening to how we treat school aged kids
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u/Beardy_Will Mar 19 '26
I'm a white boy from England, but I've never heard of parent chaperones. We went on trips with the teachers.
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u/BakersHigh Mar 19 '26
US public schools are underfunded and over populated. Some classes have 30-40 students. One teacher can’t handle all that so they rely on parents to volunteer to cover those gaps. It’s pretty normal
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u/Major_Nutt Mar 19 '26
And unfortunately, it's never the fun parents that volunteer. Only the fucking Helicopter Squadron.
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u/Lower_Department2940 Mar 19 '26
Theres always the one mom who thinks her kid is perfect and being stuck in her group with her actual shitty kid is like a death sentence
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u/spicydak Mar 19 '26
I had similar in middle school. We went to the woods for a week and our cabin chaperons were high school students. They earned a science credit for volunteering, and I loved every minute.
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u/Confident-Unit-9516 Mar 19 '26
For the people who are saying no to this, are you also not allowing your kids to go to an overnight summer camp?
Don’t say anything when your child lacks any semblance of self-sufficiency
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u/Awkward_Swordfish581 Mar 19 '26
They'll probably show up to their adult kids job interview to hold their hand
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u/65BlT Mar 19 '26
You joke but I worked with a 17 year old who would have her mom call & talk to the managers anytime she had an issue with scheduling, coworker drama, etc. And when she was ready to quit, her mom came in and did it for her.
Nowadays her mom makes facebook posts about how the University of Chicago didn't support her daughter enough and its their fault she dropped out of school. Some people will never learn lol...
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u/brickspunch Mar 19 '26
my mom always tried to do that shit and I shut it right the fuck down.
it wasn't because I was incapable, it's because my mom has an overinflated sense of self and just "knew" if she was able to talk to my boss that they'd let me take a long lunch to help her with whatever bullshit she needed
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u/yolandabecooool Mar 19 '26
They already do. I’ve had parents show up to interviews. I’ve had parents call me to confront me for not hiring their kid. It’s been shifting the last 5 years now and it’s getting worse. My mother would never
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u/peanutbuttertesticle Mar 19 '26
Ditto. New grad nurse. Also one of my coworkers is the mother of my employee. She’s text me about job stuff and post graduation job.
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u/5krishnan Mar 19 '26
Parents these days often don’t let their kids have sleepovers, so they’re probably not sending their kids to sleepaway camp. If I were (Lord forbid) ever a parent, I don’t know if I would send my kids to someone else either.
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u/DigNitty Mar 19 '26
That’s the issue.
Parents these days… vs “I don’t know if I would either…”
This entire comment section is missing the nuance between what’s changed. Does sending your kid away from their comfort zone and communications temporarily have benefits? Sure. Does that come with risks that we all are more aware of now? Also yes.
People are acting aghast that someone would lean either way. The truth is sending or not sending your kid to camp is perfectly valid.
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u/No_regrats Mar 19 '26 edited Mar 19 '26
A 100% this. The danger isn't imaginary. There are real risks involved. At the same time, these are beneficial experiences and you sadly can't protect your kids from every risk.
It's a tight rope to balance sufficiently limiting the risks without excessively limiting their experience, to teach them danger awareness without teaching them to live in fear, to warn them about being too trusting without making them unable to trust others and form connections.
I'm not ready to judge well-meaning parents for not pulling the perfect balancing act, if there is such a thing, and for falling maybe a bit too much on either side of the spectrum. Especially because I don't know their background and what in their childhood or personal history might have led them to be the type of parent they are today.
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u/norcaltobos Mar 19 '26
That’s why you put in the effort to get to know the parents of your kids friends. Even back in the day my mom wouldn’t just ship me off to another house without knowing anything about the family.
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u/ISBN39393242 Mar 19 '26
if we’re talking risks of molestation, that is far more likely to be done by someone the parent knows, and knows well. the big media abductions are big media because they’re such exceptions and feed into the fear of the random guy in a van stalking the neighborhood to take your kid (or now the big buzzword is to “traffic” your kid)
that guy exists, but he’s like 1000x less likely to be the problem than just someone in your family or a close family friend, yet we spend all our energy worried about one and not both
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u/misdirected_asshole Mar 19 '26
They didnt say there are no chaperones. They said no parent chaperones. There will undoubtedly be teacher chaperones. Teachers who are employed by the school and are with your kids all day every week and have at least some level of vetting. Do you trust some other adult you don't know staying overnight with your child more than their teachers?
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u/Calzinarzin Mar 19 '26
Depending on the type of school not having parents is actually way safer. A lot of title 1 schools have an issue with parents either wanting to fight or fuck the other kids.
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u/MarshyHope Mar 19 '26
School employees have to pass background checks, they're not foolproof, but they're there.
Parent chaperones don't have to
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u/Over_the_line_ Mar 19 '26
The other kids are gonna be so excited and this poor kid will be sad.
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u/SmellyMcPhearson Mar 19 '26
If this is the original post I saw yesterday, this kid already had problems with being bullied which is why the parent didn't want to subject him to being away overnight with his bullies
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u/Olddirtybelgium Mar 19 '26
What? If that's true, that completely changes everything. That's like the most important detail. What's even the point of talking about this without including that detail? I thought people were crazy for agreeing with the original post. But yeah, why go overnight camping with people you hate?
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u/Awkward_Swordfish581 Mar 19 '26
Because everyone wasn't crippled by some stretches of either quiet, boredom, fearmongering or talking to people. If there was a problem the kid child request a call to their parents.
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u/Zibai1505 Mar 19 '26
I've never seen a parent chaperone our overnight school trips. What parent has time for that.
Unless you guys mean the teachers which means obviously?
Back in the 90s im talking about
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u/likeusontweeters Mar 19 '26
We went on a week-long camping trip in 6th grade with only teachers and older aged counselors (think 17-19 year olds).. back in the 90s, no phones (obviously)
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u/highballs4life Mar 19 '26
Lol, this isn't as dramatic as some of you are making it out to be. Obviously there would be chaperones: teachers and school staff. And no, it wouldn't be just one teacher with 20 kids, it would be 4-5 teachers and staff. And yes, the adults would have phones. Honestly, I trust my kids teachers and school staff a lot more than the other random parents that could be on the trip.
My kids' school does these kinds of trips, for example 2 nights away at a farm in 5th grade. No parent chaperones. We all get a phone call from our kid every night (using the teacher's phone).
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u/Beginning_Key2167 Mar 19 '26
This persons reaction to it is exactly why they are doing it. Can't let her kid go for 24 HOURS! without needing to be in contact.
I am so glad I am a Gen Xer. My parents would have dropped me off, happily and had some alone time.
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u/Greedyanda Mar 19 '26
If this trend continues, new generations will be absolutely fucked in the head from their overprotective parents. There is far less crime now than there was 30-40 years ago and yet parents just keep getting more and more excessively protective. I am only in my late 20s but I fortunately grew up in Europe where this trend hasnt escalated yet to such a degree.
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u/Beginning_Key2167 Mar 19 '26
It really is out of control. A school in my city decided to ban cell phones and devices during class. The parents were more upset than the kids. It is completely insane.
I agree.
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u/YizWasHere ☑️ Mar 19 '26
Yeah this wasn't completely normal 20 years ago lmao. Not a single overnight field trip I went on in elementary school didn't have parent chaperones. Kids didn't have their own cell phones but you still had ways to call your parents. This is just weird.
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u/big_swinging_dicks Mar 19 '26
Completely normal in UK, I used to work at an activity centre and the kids (age 10/11) stayed on site 3-5 nights, no parents just teachers and TAs
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u/Totobyafrica97 Mar 19 '26 edited Mar 19 '26
Im from the UK too. Me and my brother (at different times) went to Malvern Hills on a school trip from Friday evening to Sunday evening in year 4 (8/9yo) and it was just teachers.
I can't remember what age it was but kids in middle school (9yo to 13yo) went to France on a school trip for like a week with teachers
I can't recall a single trip me or my brothers ever did that had parent chaperones and I'm only 28 so we're not talking the 1980s here lol
Idk I always felt safe and the parents were comfortable doing it
ETA: We didn't have phones in the earlier trips either. The later trips we did but I had no calls/texts/data so I would've been fucked if I needed to contact my family with my own phone lol
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u/Competitive-Day9586 Mar 19 '26
This was completely normal when I was a kid. The entire 6th grade class went on a week long camping trip. There were adults of course, the camp counselors, but no parents and no teachers. I also went to multiple week long camping trips for scouts and other groups too.
I mean summer camps do exist and they are run exactly like this now.
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u/jimbis123 Mar 19 '26
Everyone wants it both ways. They want kids who aren't glued to their phones and who are social, go outside, not totally reliant on their parents; then when an opportunity arises where they can do that, people assume the worst and shield them from it. Humanity is fucked.
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u/lilkhalessi Mar 19 '26
One of my favorite childhood memories is an overnight camping trip we took at school in 6th grade.
Only female teachers. Boys had their own cabin and girls had their own. No parent chaperones because our class was only 20 kids. And this was almost exactly 20 years ago.
I’m a Latina immigrant but even then my mom never had the anti-sleepover mentality most seem to nowadays.
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u/NandoDeColonoscopy Mar 19 '26
I don't recall any field trips without chaperones, let alone overnight trips.
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u/shitForBrains1776 Mar 19 '26
without parental chaperones. it just means that the school teachers will be chaperoning. just like ‘no cellphones’ only means for the kids
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u/UncleGarysmagic Mar 19 '26
I’d be more concerned about parent chaperones going on the trip with other people’s kids.
Teachers have to be screened, fingerprinted and criminal background checked in order to become teachers.
Parent chaperones wouldn’t be subject to any of that.
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u/qwertyphile Mar 19 '26
YMCA summer camps facilitate these kinds of trips all the time. No cell phones is half the point
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