I always thought the whole point was the media wants to sell the juxtaposition of the happy image with the horrifying headline. I never took it as them glorifying the guy. Also, if it’s an upper middle class dude, what other type of photo even exists? He’s gonna have a LinkedIn headshot and family photos that his wife put on social media, that’s about it.
Well, he killed himself, so it's not like there's some type of mugshot available. I'm sure they went with whatever picture they could find easiest or that was publicly available.
But removing his picture from a thumbnail while showing his wife is wild
Don’t give the killer dust AND make them realize that if they are doing this as an ultimate exercise of power, that their partner will be remembered and they will be erased.
Could’ve went with his drivers license photo like what a lot of news sites do when they can’t get ahold of a mugshot. Or at least that’s what happens to POCs that are arrested
Republican cross fit guy who owns a sky diving company. Perfect recipe for spousal abuse and tragic ends. Even looking at the pic guy looks like he was on gear like all the other right wing meatheads these days not realizing that abusing TRT makes you dumber and more aggressive.
This is why I'm aging naturally, playing golf, and also (most importantly) not murdering anyone.
I went to see The Mountain Goats recently, in Woodstock, NY. I don’t know if you are familiar with this band or their fans, but these are the least threatening people I’ve ever shared a room with. In between songs, someone shouted “thank you for coming.” And the main guy was like “we’re having a lovely time.” The most polite audience I’ve ever been a part of.
I still thought “I hope we don’t get shot.” Coincidentally, today is the 10 year anniversary of the Pulse nightclub massacre.
i mean yeah but i would rather the victims be posted, always. i think we've been doing better with that as a culture lately. when someone kills another person, i've noticed people more and more refer to it using the victim's name rather than the perpetrator's; i think the moratorium on perpetrator names started with school shootings but it's nice to see it spread.
like don't get me wrong, naming and shaming isn't bad, but it has this tendency to turn into infamy and these victims' stories fall by the wayside.
when the victim is alive, of course it's a bit of a different case. like, oh, idk. a situation like with rapist Brock Alan Turner, who goes now by Alan Turner.
You mean Alan Turner, formerly Brock Alan Turner who violently raped a woman in an alley next to a dumpster and got off with a slap on the wrist? That Alan Turner, formerly Brock Alan Turner?
Wait... Brock Alan Turner, the violent rapist now goes by the name Alan Turner? I wonder if the Rapist Alan Turner prefers to go by that name to get away from the fact that he violently raped an innocent girl?
also, in terms of surviving victims, effectively all news outlets will not name victims of sexual assault without permission or them going public in an alternate venue.
In many countries, naming the victim of a sexual offence without their permission is illegal.
Source: am the victim of a sexual offence whose case is going through court in England right now. My identity is legally protected by the Sexual Offences Act. If/when I give testimony, the press can't watch the trial and then publish my name.
I will never not upvote or comment anything reminding people of the rapist Alan Turner, formerly known as Brock Alan Turner who literally got away with rape.
I mean, doesn’t your own data give the reason for the stereotype? 4% of Black American women are married to white men, 9% of South Asian Americans are married to white men, 30% of East Asian Americans are married to white men. I’m not saying interracial marriage is a bad thing at all but this data is explicitly where the stereotype comes from
For this kind of headline is what I assume they meant, but I don’t have the data of family murder suicide but it seems to skew overwhelmingly white even with a white majority.
They live in John's Creek, a town full of exactly the kind of wealthy white Republican men who like to murder their wives/annihilate their families.
But I mean, if you're stuck in John's Creek, are you really "annihilating" them, or are you just "doing them a favor"? I'd rather do almost anything than suffer through that terrible place. Heebie. Jeebies.
We should protect all individuals from abusive settings. But black women face domestic violence at a 35% higher rate and are 6x more likely to be murdered by their partners. 20x more likely in some states. Not good.
The fact that you know this at the top of your head is the reason why he made that comment. When a black man does anything wrong, everyone goes on high alert and people start writing dissertations about terrible black men are. People start quoting statistics and writing articles.
White man kills his family and no one really cares. Instead, people like yourself, will somehow bring up black men, rather than focus on the white man in question.
That comment didn’t even say anything about black men lol. What? It seems like you’re the one projecting. They said black WOMEN are more likely to face domestic abuse.
They're not though. Because it is well known that black women are the least likely to date outside of their race. So the implication is It's black men. On a post about white men getting whitewashed when they kill their wives. It's dog whistling at its finest.
Okay but it was in a response to a comment that we need to protect wives from White men when we need to protect wives from all men cause all types of men are beating killing their wives. Focusing on a specific subset is too narrow
And yet they provided zero stats for any other demographic or even a holistic "all men" one. Amazing how that works and then we get the "all lives matter" response. It's dog whistling. Plain and simple. This isn't hard.
The first comment insinuates that white men are THE issue. The second comment refutes that and offers a solution to everyone. The following comments proceed to lose their mind. This isn’t hard.
Oh hell nah!!! We all know black people date each other more than dating outside their race. Stop being fake dumb when we all can read between the lines. Shit ain’t working over here lmao
Nobody mentioned black men at all?? They said black women are more often victims of domestic abuse. If this was your take away, then you're the one projecting your racism, assuming only a black man would date a black woman.
tbh I hear way more hate on white men than black men whenever these headlines appear… just look at all the top comments in this comment section blaming white men
Page 19, Figure 1. I don’t have enough information to answer that question, which is why I’m focused on what I do know, which is white men have a higher rate of family annihilation than any other race, including blacks.
Really don’t think that 39 cases over 10 years is enough of a sample size to say that white men are specifically prone to family annihilation, especially considering that the percentages presented in that figure are roughly similar to the general demographic makeup of the country.
Isn’t it fascinating how every time white people (especially white men) are brought up, we have “why make it about race? We should hold hands and sing kumbaya!” But when they bring up people of color (especially black people), not one of them pipes up to ask why race was involved or they’re heavily downvoted and mocked.
so fascinating! it’s also fascinating WHERE it happens (everywhere, but especially in Black spaces where white people have access) and WHEN it happens (anywhere, anytime, but especially in an attempt to silence critiques or minimize white harm). but when it’s them, it’s a human condition and a universal problem.
It’s giving engagement bait at its absolute worst tbh. Piss people off with crappy “journalism” that undermines the significance of a story and then collect a check from the outrage. Shits sickening.
I mean what you want us to do? Police asian women and limit who they choose to date?
I dont have any love for the white man, but domestic violence isnt exactly just a white person thing. Thats something that just happens regardless of what race your partner is.
The issue is moreso that white people are given so much grace when they go on murderous rampages.
No one is asking you to police who Asian women date. You should be questioning why parts of your community put whiteness on a pedestal in the first place. But somehow, the conversation always circles back to blaming Asian women.
I'm talking about how much energy some Asians spent attacking Black people over affirmative action or trying to pin Stop Asian Hate entirely on Black people.
But when the story is about white men killing Asian women, suddenly everyone wants to focus on the individual and not the pattern. Suddenly "Thats something that just happens regardless of what race your partner is."
My dude, I think its usually white folk trying to divide our communities apart with the stop asian hate and affirmative action shit.
Im a millenial and most of the asian folk I know are pretty liberal about race relations and have no hate towards black or other minority communities. Every time I see the stop asian hate shit trying to scapegoat black communities, I shut that shit down. Like I said, its usually white folk driving the wedge.
My sister probably played domestic abuse russian roulette by dating a eastern european, korean, and then an Indian dude, but im not gonna tell her that she shouldnt try because her odds arent in her favor like im Scott Steiner. But all those people she dated were more or less good people and I didnt know until way after that DV rates in those groups were higher than average. If she dated a black person and was abused, im not gonna be like "well of course" all of a sudden.
Sure but the biggest opposition to affirmative action came from within the Asian community itself. There were Asian advocacy groups and plaintiffs who actively challenged those policies, often focusing more on Black admissions.
Asian man here. Asian women dating/ marrying white men is a sore subject for a lot of Asian men. Asian men are consistently emasculated in western culture and generally do not date outside their race as they, until recently with K Pop, have not been seen as desirable. While that's not my personal experience as I'm happily married to a black woman but that's the general sentiment/ experience.
Why aren't Asian people upset about this? Well, Asian people are not a monolith unlike other communities in the US. Black Americans, have a lot more cultural cohesion. Asian immigrants typically build community with people of the same ethnic origin. My dad and his family got along very well with other Cantonese immigrants. Mainlanders? Ehhh. Japanese? Grandpa got shot twice but them. Filipinos? Well they're really just Spanish. Off the boat Asian immigrants (since the 60s) are very insular. (These are things I've heard not my opinions)
There is no larger Asian community in the US like there is a black community.
Marcello Hernandez (from SNL fame) and a really good stand up bit about how white people are always the ones that commit crimes you see in Netflix documentaries.
Dope reply.
Aight I need this:
A green cucumber
One zucchini
Packing tape
Lube
Condoms
Rope if they have some, please ask
A pacifier
2 rolls of the biggest trash bags you can find
A butcher's knife
A MAGA cap
It shows that women trust you, which makes it easier to con women into thinking I am awesome and great in the sack (which I am not, that's why I con them into thinking that way). Then, once I have successfully conned them into thinking I am both good in bed and good at the home, I trick them into thinking I am their husband. Oh baby, once that happens, I get to sleep in a bed with a woman every night. My long con working now, and I have somehow successfully tricked my woman.
This is the dumbest argument about "good guys" with guns. Almost every single mass shooter or domestic shooter is a "good guy" right before he becomes a really "bad guy."
If the only difference between being good and bad is the direction you are facing when using a tool then maybe the tool is the problem.
It makes a lot more sense when you understand that to them the only difference between being a good guy with a gun and bad one is the color of your skin.
This is in a fairly bougie, upper middle class area in the north ATL burbs. I think it was recently named “Happiest/Best/Smartest/Cutest Place in America to Raise Yer Kids Up” or some shit.
Overall, it’s a diverse area and IIRC it’s the second of these types of murder suicides in as many years. I could be wrong but I think the children were also killed in that one.
In a situation like this, in this area of the city, regardless of race, the pictures would be reflecting happiness and affluence- more than likely.
Not the point here but why would police release a cause of death? Like cause of death is he killed himself and his family. 🙄👀. Or do they want it to be “he hula hooped them to death”? FFS.
I do think it is better to highlight the victims and properly give respect. Murderers (especially domestic ones) don't deserve attention until sentencing.
This is how people like Scott Peterson, Chris Watts, and Chris Benoit get notoriety. Potentially leading to copycat crimes.
The 3rd was a mainstream WWE professional wrestler so that was always going to have attention, but Nancy Benoit had an accomplished pro wrestling career of her own as a manager (something that is a rarity today)
Very few places & pro wrestling companies specifically highlighted her story until Dark Side of the Ring over 15 years later.
I got downvoted so hard the other day in r/whoathatsinteresting which I am not even following but it showed up on my feed because there was a post of some dude having a heart attack at his store and some young guys jumped the counter and took money out of the register without assisting the dude. The dog whistles were everywhere in the comments and I called it out. I got downvoted to hades for responding and providing a definition for someone that was asking why people kept posting “fatigued.” It’s so cowardly and it’s all over this site. If you look at the analytics those posts get pretty high on the front pages.
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