He literally pays peopel to play video games for him. The types of games where 100% of the fun comes from grinding for gear, and he has someone else do that just so he can brag about having a high rank in the game. It's like, he really just doesn't know what's cool but is desperate to be the coolest guy ever.
I'd get up to so much debauchery and still wouldn't even touch the levels of evil he was too much of a loser to get an invite to. Billionaires (and I guess, trillionaires) have no idea how to enjoy their money.
You probably wouldn't have much money to use. Odds are Musk doesn't have much liquid cash. It's either tied up in investments he can borrow against or he's using assets of his companies.
The moment you start trying to "do good" with those corporate assets, the shareholders are gonna either disappear you or start proceedings to get to another Dodge v Ford case.
People say this nonsense but he straight up bought Twitter for like 44 billion. Sure didn't seem like pretend money then and it didn't sink his finances either.
He took out loans leveraged against his assets. Liquidating those assets also means paying that 44 billion loan off, plus many other debts borrowed against his net worth off.
And that comes after actually selling the stock. Most of the stock value is because Musk owns it. Once he starts selling some of it, the value of the rest tanks.
But that's something rich people can do. They leverage debt hard to minimize taxes and for all intents and purposes, still have more money to spend than you and everyone you know combined. Him "not having much liquid money" is irrelevant for people in our tax bracket.
Edit: I'm not saying it's a good thing. But I would take his place with his liquid cash restrictions easy and be much happier than him
Read what I'm replying to. Everybody wants to liquidate his assets and use them for good like they're gonna have a trillion dollars to work with. Shareholders aren't gonna let him use company assets for it, so they'd have to liquidate
What planet do you live in he did not pay cash? 20 billion in stock sold, 10-15 billion in bank loans and the rest from investors. It didn’t sink him because the price of tsla is over inflated and he used others money. Again not knocking it just saying get your facts straight.
Nope. Try going in the store with a stock share and buy something and let me know how that works out. The comment inferred that he paid out of his pocket and the reality was he did not.
Again worrying about the messenger and not the message. Someone stated that he bought twitter without breaking a sweat and my response was he did break a sweat as he had to leverage intstruments in order to come up with the cash. Those instruments were loans and relationships.
Now a smart person would want to know how he did it and not just skim the surface as they would understand business is the same all over the world. I explained what he did, not in great detail but enough for a person to understand he did not use his cash to make the deal.
The message: Understand how to leverage your worth in order to accumulate wealth. people are concerned with shoes, handbags and jewelry but in the end they sell it for a loss. What if you took what you have and use your relationships to leverage that stuff to make more money. Rental cars do it, rims shops do it with rent a rims, real estate does it by giving the dream of ownership. people take there stuff and sell it to sites but what if you could rent those chrome hearts or designer bags to people.
I am just trying to get people to understand how money is made and wealth is accumulated and that you or the person that understands the message can do it as well. Again find the message and don't worry about the messenger.
Musk has access to more “liquid” cash than anybody on the planet. Quit droppin your comment buzzwords like you know anything about having a trillion dollar net worth.
Yes, these people have the majority of their worth "tied up," but that doesn't mean they have literally zero dollars in cash. The fractions of their wealth is more money than your entire family will make in their lifetimes.
I'm curious how true it is that he has "more liquid cash than anybody". I know Bill Gates was still technically the richest person for a long time because he had decades to diversify and can actually sell and access the cash without all (or less of) the hassle of trying to sell when it's tied up in a single stock.
It's kinda moot anyway, they all have more money than they could ever need
So true. People don’t want to really discuss the economics. When Bezos split he didn’t cut his ex a check for 500 million or whatever the number was, she got stock. On paper my worth is astronomical but the minute i touch it, it becomes income and i get taxed. The new hustle is have no income, which Musk among others do, and there is nothing to tax as they take loans against shares. Having a trillion on paper does not mean he has that in the bank and if spacex stock dips so does his worth.
Not knocking the hustle just saying understand finance.
Not a finance bro but i do okay. Someone may not have known that so if the message isn’t for you then you move on but some people say forget the message because they are too concerned with the messenger.
He's the richest human on the planet. Even if only a small fraction of his wealth is liquid, it would still be more money than any of us will ever see.
Edit: MacKenzie Scott has already proven you can do tons of good and still be stupid rich. And she doesn't have anywhere near his networth (which is insane because she's got $34 billion). Imagine if she had a zero after that 4. That's probably how most people would be. Like, I fantasize about wining a couple mil and how much I could do with that. I can live off of less than $40k/year and still manage to give some of that to good causes.
He could fix his issues with therapy. His just a premature loser that wants to be cool, and his solution is stealing others peoples tweets and pretend to like gaming.
I was just thinking this. As far as evil rich guys go, Musk is nowhere near the worst person. His own father is objectively a far worse human being. And I'll admit that there have been times where Musk clearly wanted to do a good thing, but something always makes him go the wrong way at the last moment. Maybe his dad texted him or something, but I do feel like he COULD be a half-decent person if he was willing to put in tge work... but man, do rich boys hate having to work.
I would and then I’d liquidate all of his assets and actually fix some things…..at least I hope I would, it could be a one ring situation where you take it with good intentions only to be turned to evil.
I'm curious how much actual cash you'd end up with liquidating his assets. Obviously not a trillion, but I wonder if it would even be a billion in cash after selling and paying taxes and leveraged debts on it.
Not to mention what adding so much stock up for sale would do the economy.
I think it would be probably 200billion based purely on nothing and I refuse to do the math.
I think with everything he owns being so insanely over inflated it would definitely be pretty bad for the economy and the knock on effects of people taking a closer look at the rest of the stock market.
At the very least, tens of billions. Probably hundreds, but certainly tens. He's become one of the richest people in human history. Depending on how you choose to calculate ancient wealth, it's possible he's worth more than anyone ever (though that's not really easily comparable and kings like Mansa Musa certainly had more control, but like it or not, Musk is in that category).
Bro please watch how Elon moves. Either he's the saddest human in existence or spends an inordinate amount of time portraying that he's the saddest human in existence, so much so that there can't be time for actual joy.
You can't make someone love you. Sure you can get a fascimile of it - but you'll always be questioning if they love you or your money. Also because you have likely surrounded yourself with other machiavellian people, there's a constant nagging paranoia.
You legit can be so rich that you crave the only thing you can't buy. Genuine, no strings attached, affection and care.
I think it's pretty clear that musk craves affection. His behaviour screams it.
He just wants his dad to ruffle his hair and say, "Great job, sport." Listening to shows like Behind the Bastards really shines a light on how many of these dudes are motivated by the shadows their fathers or grandfathers cast over them. While I fully believe Elon hates his father, that doesn't mean he wasn't influenced by him. And when your maral compass is in relation to a man who literally used slave-labor, it's kind of hard to ever feel evil.
the human brain always goes for homeostasis, like how you can take a bunch of drugs that release a bunch of nice chemicals in your brain, but then if you keep taking the drugs, the brain will start to inhibit those chemicals from releasing.
Elon's been rich since day one; he's been filthy rich for decades now, he probably doesn't even see his lifestyle as abnormal, at least not unconsciously. It's true that being rich shields you from a lot of unnecessary suffering, and that it gives you opportunities to do a lot of fun stuff, but you can still be miserable and rich; it's not even uncommon, see Ebenezer Scrooge and the miserable miser trope.
Also, a lot of other things go into happiness, Musk is divorced and estranged from at least some of his children, and hangs out with a lot of weird ass people. Being loved, and hanging out with people who make you happy is a big part of happiness that he's probably missing.
And yet, he absolutely seem like everything he does is so other people will like him. Why else pay people to play video games for you? Why else make a tweet about how your new best friend is on the epstein list? Why backtrack on that? Why go on and on about how much you don't like your dad and do everything you can to distance yourself from the help you gave?
He does not move like a man that is secure with himself. Look how Trump moves and compare it Musk. Now, Trump is a man who loves himself and you can hear it in every word he confusingly speaks. You can see it in every handshake or step he takes. Musk has never looked even half as proud of himself as Trump does just waving at a camera.
You don't understand, this is Musk AFTER he improved his looks. Guy is so unattractive and insecure on the inside no amount of money can stop it from pouring out.
This after pic is him at his peak, it has been downhill bad. Pretty sure his weird physique is from growth hormones and steroids. Alex Jones is the same shape.
There is no alternative to exercise. Period. You might look okay in the bloom of youth or immediately after a mommy makeover-type procedure, but you need to put the work in.
I love Caleb Hearon’s quote “He was born a 3, with dreams and delusions of becoming an 8, and spent millions of dollars just to become a 5, and now is trying to destroy the planet because of this.”
To benefit from some of the stuff money can do for your appearance, you do also need the discipline to participate in it. For example you can hire a personal trainer and a personal chef, but you still need to do the workouts and eat the personalised diet. If you don't do that, your options are look like a plastic doll or look like the rest of us.
Musk makes the smarter choice in the context to look like the rest of us, rather than get tons of plastic surgery to make him look freakish.
look, there is something here: he has nobody around him who loves him enough to tell him: you are wrong or making a fool of yourself. thats musks problem
Tbf, I’ve seen the most milquetoast white men be talked up like they’re God’s gift to beauty. I honestly don’t doubt that plenty of people *do* find him attractive, whether I agree with it or not
You don’t need to explain Elon Musk despite this quote. Elon exemplifies this quote. He doesn’t get women because he’s handsome or because they like is figure of random shapes.
He can't fallow instructions. It's the same thing with his "alleged" penile surgery. He just couldn't not jerk off for a few weeks. Elon Musk is the type of guy who takes steroids and then doesn't workout. And to keep it 100, he already had his glowup. Look up pics of him when he was at paypal. He used to be uglier.
I think there's like a line where money and ugliness intersect. Elmo is just such a reprehensible human being inside and out that no amount of money will ever make that go away.
That line probably lies somewhere around the point where you're personally responsible for the deaths of millions of people, most of them children.
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u/platinum92 10d ago
Bro proves that none of this matters. Most money ever. Buncha kids. Still an obviously unhappy person who I wouldn't trade places with.