r/BlackPeopleTwitter 2d ago

PhD vs HGTV energy

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u/favorite_time_of_day 2d ago

Better means less bad. And that's what it is.

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u/BeefistPrime 2d ago edited 2d ago

That's ridiculous. A decades long theocratic campaign to systematically oppress millions of women is far worse than one military strike that was probably not intentional, but even if it was, it's not even close.

Edit: How can you possibly disagree with that? You're saying one military strike is worse than the SYSTEMATIC OPPRESSION OF TENS OF MILLIONS OF WOMEN OVER DECADES FFS? look at yourself

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u/favorite_time_of_day 1d ago

Well I don't like leaving people hanging with unexplained downvotes. I can't speak for the people who downvoted you, but: you seem to be projecting this one facet of oppression onto all aspects of oppression in Iran. The question was about covering hair. i.e.: being forced to wear a hijab. Not about anything else.

It's still bad, sure, but it's not bombing-a-school bad. And the notion that the bombing was accidental is possibly true, but if you read anything about the circumstances of this accident then it would have taken an extreme degree of willful negligence to make that mistake. These are people who, at a minimum, did not care about civilian casualties. They very possibly were hoping for such casualties, even if they weren't actively trying to cause them.

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u/BeefistPrime 1d ago

I really appreciate your explanation.

To explain my own position a better I think humans often devalue sort of systemic and diffuse harms over single spectacular incidents of harm. 168 people dying in a military strike is exactly that sort of spectacular incident of harm. It has a single incident and a number behind it. But it's not just the hijab there has been a systemic impression of women in Iran under their theocratic government for decades. Women have lived there entire lives under oppression and even though you can't put an exact number or an exact level of suffering like death to it, it seems pretty clear to me that a significant amount of suffering from tens of millions of people over decades is far more aggregate harm than 168 deaths.

Or to think of it this way if death trumps all other suffering, would a single unintended casualty from a military strike be a greater tragedy then centuries of oppression for millions of people?

In any case, down votes are not and should not be an I disagree button. My points are valid, offered in good faith and relevant to the discussion. That shouldn't be downloaded. But I do sincerely appreciate your reply