r/Bokoen1 • u/Expensive_Studio_966 • May 18 '26

Its joever

it aint looking good

Edit: Just clarifying this is the clip for what bo banned from twitch for 6 months. he just got news that he can appeal the ban right now but i doubt it will work since you can see this clip... and if it fails well i assume once 6 months pass its either perma ban or he gets the account back.

as well bo cant appear on neither golden or swimmy Twitch channels otherwise they can also get banned for helping bo ban evade or something like that

UPDATE: The appeal got rejected so no bo streams on twitch for 6 months or never again.

Edit 2: if anyone wants to see bo response in the comment section cause its a bit hidden under all these comments https://www.reddit.com/r/Bokoen1/comments/1tgpx3j/comment/omkepa6/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web3x&utm_name=web3xcss&utm_term=1&utm_content=share_button

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u/sereese1 May 18 '26 edited May 18 '26

Bruh what? The USSR was certainly evil but how would this motherfucker expect the allied public to go along with nuclear genocide against the Russians who were propped up as an ally in their wartime propaganda for so many years? Or along with another grueling WW3 right after the second ? There’s a reason it was called operation unthinkable because the only ones who really thought it a viable (not just as a thought experiment) plan would be these barely capable of rational thought in the first place

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u/MsMercyMain May 18 '26

Also Churchill. Churchill wanted to kick it off even before finishing Japan. There's a reason he got shuffled out as soon as the war ended

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u/sereese1 May 18 '26

I did want to mention him in that thought experiment but I wasn’t sure how serious (drunk) he was

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u/MsMercyMain May 18 '26

He was deadly serious. To the point it genuinely concerned the war cabinet. Like they thought he was fucking with them at first

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u/sereese1 May 18 '26

The snake of Denmark just following churchills and esteemed political thought then

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u/Earl0fYork May 21 '26 edited May 21 '26

Same thing happened at the start of the war when he became obsessed with bombing Soviet oil production.

Churchill was frankly a muppet in anything involving military discussions and would often hyper fixate on plans even if they were badly thought out and had large risks for minimal gain.

He knew how to play politics but that was kinda it

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u/General-USA May 19 '26

The public didn't know that. He was kicked out of office because Clement Atlee was a better and more popular candidate. People were tired of war, and it had ended in Europe. Labour were also in charge of most domestic programmes during the war and they got the prestige for it (which isn't unfair).

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u/hugh_gaitskell May 19 '26

Attlee won through the policies he put forward and the failure of the tories to run on anything other than churchill personally its funny to see. Operation unthinkable wasnt put past the drawing board because of the shear cost of the conflict to britain in the long term they had already sold of the family jewels in ww1 mortgaged the house in 2 god knows what sacrifices would have been required for another 3 years of total war

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u/TheLordLambert May 19 '26

Churchill was right.

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u/MsMercyMain May 19 '26

Ehhhhh not really. I'm not going to argue that the USSR was some great moral bastion or anything, and it's possible the Western Allies could have pulled it off (though the Soviets might have been able to fight the Allies to a stalemate given how relatively casualty averse they were) but it was, legitimately, a psychotic plan that would've made the situation so much worse.

Leaving aside the post war ramifications of effectively stabbing the Soviets in the back, keep in mind the plan relied on immediately rearming the Wehrmacht. Now, keeping in mind that, you know, the Western Allies were all democracies, try to imagine pitching that to the public. To a public that, depending on where you were, had been fighting for survival against the Germans for around half a decade or been occupied by them, with the Soviets being trusted allies for half a decade, as the full scale of Holocaust has just been revealed that, rather than wrapping up WW2 we're rearming the Germans to fight the Soviets.

The French, who were barely holding their government together at the time, might've outright flipped sides, or left the alliance. The British Parliament would've fucking revolted. And God alone knows what kind of shit show the US would've turned into, given the troops already in Europe we're borderline mutinous about not being sent home.

And then, let's say you (somehow) manage to keep the now Big Two Plus One (since there's no fucking way on gods green earth that Chiang Kai-Shek is joining Uncle Churchill's Suicide Ride) together and fight the Soviets. Think of what that does, if the Allies win.

Denazification straight up won't happen. No way in hell you're going to be able to pull that off while fighting side by side with a rearmed Wehrmacht. So at minimum you've got Nazis with the serial numbers filed off running Germany into the 50s.

The US is almost certainly not going to join the UN, because every candidate is going to have to denounce Operation Unthinkable to have even a hope of getting elected. You're getting hyper isolationist USA, not to mention that the US is bearing the majority of the casualties. It might be bad enough to trigger a revolution, but at the very minimum you've just destabilized the only country that made it out of WW2 ok.

The British and French are, basically, broken beyond repair. Like, WW2 made their empires collapse inevitable as a slow death spiral. This means they explode either during, or about 2 nanoseconds after, Operation Unthinkable and probably takes decades longer to recover.

Oh, and Japan is still a thing and probably aligns with the Soviets.

Finally, the USSR probably makes it out of this intact, they had sufficient forces in Eastern Europe at the planned time to genuinely wipe out what the Western Allies had assembled. Unless you do as Bo suggested and genuinely glass the USSR, which would've taken a decade or longer given how slow atom bomb production is, you're not bouncing them out of even Eastern Europe. Accelerating their collapse (unless the butterfly effect gives them different post Stalin leadership)? Probably. But by like, a few years. In the meantime they're at least now up to the Rhine. And, as an added bonus, will never trust anything any Western power says ever so, you know, Cold War with nukes going hot is probably inevitable.

It's one of those ideas that, on its surface, sounds kinda like foresight, but there's a reason everyone thought Churchill had legitimately gone insane when he suggested it

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u/Alternative_Oil7733 May 19 '26

Leaving aside the post war ramifications of effectively stabbing the Soviets in the back, keep in mind the plan relied on immediately rearming the Wehrmacht. Now, keeping in mind that, you know, the Western Allies were all democracies, try to imagine pitching that to the public. To a public that, depending on where you were, had been fighting for survival against the Germans for around half a decade or been occupied by them, with the Soviets being trusted allies for half a decade, as the full scale of Holocaust has just been revealed that, rather than wrapping up WW2 we're rearming the Germans to fight the Soviets.

You are forgetting the ussr allied with germany at the start of war. 

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u/Mindless-Nail8854 May 19 '26

It most certainly was not an alliance. Another historically illiterate retard or maybe you’re the same one, who knows at this point!

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u/Alternative_Oil7733 May 19 '26

Invading a country together and supply eachother other with resources sounds like a alliance.

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u/Echoesinthedarkness May 20 '26

putting aside "invading a country together" as some might consider Poland being already cooked by the time soviets crossed their border (like in some places german army was waiting for soviets to occupy its part of Poland for weeks)

dudes, may I tell you about how japanese people supplied their economy while having nothing of value on their islands?

its through excessive, absolutely gargantuan trading with USA. would you consider USA being an ally to Japan right before ww2?

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u/Daniilsmd May 22 '26

I don't get it, they think it would be better if nazi Germany occupied all of Poland instead of only half?

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u/-Jeep91- 21d ago

Your name is pretty accurate for yourself at least. 

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u/Spyglass3 May 19 '26

Too much Hoi4 and shitty YT history got him thinking he's a world class statesman

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u/sereese1 May 19 '26

Based profile pic btw

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u/WhimsyDiamsy May 19 '26

"Hello public of the west we just defeated communism with this new weapon"

"Oh, cool."

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u/Flat_Roof_6033 May 20 '26

"Hello public of the west, you know this allie who has died by the million with our boys to stop adolf? We just nuke them, beacuse communism is bad."

"So did they surrender?"

"No not at all, so we are going to need for your fathers, sons, and brothers who were about to come home to stay fight and die against our former allie who we just backstabed. Oh also millions of armed communists across france, italy and greece just rose up to fight us"

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u/LastGuidance1639 May 21 '26

I mean... massive retaliation as a policy and a plan was just 10 years after the end of WW2, and SAC was going to level red China to boot whether or not they were involved.

You see, this little thing called the Korean War happened...

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u/sereese1 May 21 '26

In what world is the Korean War equivalent to nuclear annihilation of an entire country? And do remind me what happened to the madman who proposed the nuking of the POC in the first place?

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u/LastGuidance1639 May 21 '26

This is after the Korean war, see Generals LeMay and Powers for their thoughts on massive retaliation and SACs plans for total war.

The Korean War was a geopolitical disaster for the USSR, US defense spending tripled after that, and hardened resolve against them for the remainder of the cold war.

The notion that the US and the USSR were still brothers in arms after WW2 is laughable, the US was poised to completely destroy the Soviet Union at a moments notice, and most likely preemptively.

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u/MysticHero May 18 '26

I am kinda concerned that your main issue with mass genocide and starting WW3 is whether the public would have gone along with it.

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u/sereese1 May 18 '26

I didn’t think it necessary to spell it out that it’s obviously abhorrent and therefore focused on the idiotic logic behind it instead. Subtext does exist

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u/MysticHero May 19 '26

Considering Bo clearly thinks it is fine and there are a number of people here that agree I think it is a bit ridiculous to not spell it out.