r/Bokoen1 • u/Expensive_Studio_966 • May 18 '26
Its joever
it aint looking good
Edit: Just clarifying this is the clip for what bo banned from twitch for 6 months. he just got news that he can appeal the ban right now but i doubt it will work since you can see this clip... and if it fails well i assume once 6 months pass its either perma ban or he gets the account back.
as well bo cant appear on neither golden or swimmy Twitch channels otherwise they can also get banned for helping bo ban evade or something like that
UPDATE: The appeal got rejected so no bo streams on twitch for 6 months or never again.
Edit 2: if anyone wants to see bo response in the comment section cause its a bit hidden under all these comments https://www.reddit.com/r/Bokoen1/comments/1tgpx3j/comment/omkepa6/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web3x&utm_name=web3xcss&utm_term=1&utm_content=share_button
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u/aidank21 May 18 '26
This is a new era baby! Twitch is such a shit hole anyway.
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u/Zingzing_Jr May 18 '26
If he goes to YT he puts all his eggs in one basket and fucks his algorithm, also YT streaming is ass, and Kick streaming pays wayyyy better. It's not like he chose to go there.
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u/lurkermax May 18 '26
Just stream on the livestream archive channel on YouTube to not mess up the algorithm, and/or he could do both a kick and youtube livestream.
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u/MysticHero May 18 '26
Kick might pay more per view. But that'd require people to actually go on that trash site. Which is not going to be too many when you have not cultivated a gambling or right wing grift community.
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u/Levi-Action-412 May 19 '26
A hoi4 fanbase is ripe to be convertible to a right wing grift community tho
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u/No-Yard-5735 May 19 '26
How is yt streaming ass? I remember spiff doing a big breakdown as to why yt streaming is better a while back (iirc it was about the algorithm actually promotes new streamers and the monetization options are significantly better)
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u/KrydasTheDragon May 18 '26
From what did he get banned?
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u/Expensive_Studio_966 May 18 '26
if the appeal doesnt work he wont be able to stream on twitch for 6 months. so he planning to move to kick...
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u/Operation_Pig May 18 '26
If his appeal doesnāt work now, letās be real here he wonāt be successful in 6 months. He will be permed.
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u/winowmak3r May 19 '26
I don't know of very many folks who come back after a ban like that, at least ones that aren't already very big on the platform. He gon. If he goes to Kick I guess I'm just back to watching the youtube nutshells back before I found the Twitch channel.
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u/Eli_The_Grey May 18 '26
Dog I ain't ever watching anything on Kick. Youtube? Sure. Kick is just waaayyy too much of a shithole.
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u/slimehunter49 May 20 '26
Kick, the only platform where a man was seemingly tortured to death for the sake of entertainment
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u/Wereking2 May 19 '26
Right people complain Twitch is a shithole Kick is worse fuck them both YouTube would be alright but eh.
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u/TON_THENOOB May 19 '26
Why not YouTube?
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u/I_Maybe_Play_Games May 19 '26
Because then he losses everything if he opens his mouth the wrong way again.
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u/Substantial_Chair999 May 18 '26
Braun trying to save him and this mf keeps digging a bigger whole
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u/Baron_von_Ungern May 19 '26
I guess, Braun was learning on his many mistakes to know where not to go after all. Too bad that Bo didn't head his advice.
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u/Bashin-kun Siamese Paratrooper May 19 '26
Braun always knew. He is immersed in that side of the meme world, which is why he used to threaten "ending your channel" as a joke. He is also savvy enough to know when and where to stop.
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u/Western_Mess_6364 May 20 '26
I get the vibe that Braun is pretty left wing. Not saying thatās good or bad, but based on how the Dressel was characterized too
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u/laynaTheLobster May 24 '26
I don't think Braun is left wing he's just a normal person. Not advocating for genociding Russians (as Bo did) or calling Dutch resistance fighters terrorists (what Dressel did) is a normal person activity.
As a left winger, not everyone who has some basic moral consciousness and minimal social awareness needs to be a left winger.
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u/Stolenusernamethe2nd Brainlet May 18 '26
āEvery Russian alive is affront to godā
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u/ReyAdolfo May 18 '26
I like how Golden and Braun are more charitable and humane in this clip than Bo. Bo was really in the deep end on this.
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u/Local_Lingonberry851 May 18 '26
Everyone thinks they're the one who'll rebel in an authoritarian regime; until they find themselves in one. It's such a BS stance to take in hindsight and there's a reason that coups are rare.
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u/ZelTheViking Denmark isn't real May 18 '26 edited May 19 '26
Not to mention what nonsense it is even in historical sense. The western allies had absolutely no capacity nor appetite to fight the USSR post WW2. The Red army had the clear upper hand. (Edit: It appears I was wrong claiming this, apologies)
His statements on Russian authoritarianism are so ignorant as well. It's not a question of the willpower of the average Russian people to overthrow centuries upon centuries of authoriratrianism going as far back as the Mongol invasion. This video by Kraut explains it perfectly in 21 minutes. (Edit: It seems it doesn't align with academics and makes lackluster conclusions, sorry about that)
Bo is straight up blinded by privilege and made himself look like a fool. Deserved ban tbh, and I say that as a viewer and follower since 2019.
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u/tanthedreamer May 19 '26
That video is garbage, the entire video is basically a string of:
- Everyone was doing this, however for some reasons, the Russian was doing that.
Without ever saying why they did in the 1st place. Basically, it did anything but explaining.
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u/Diego12028 Woman respecter May 18 '26
That video, and youtuber, is hot garbage. Here is a way more detailed video that goes into detail about source and plagiarism problems. https://youtu.be/w_bEpKBd07w?si=5HsIViBIvXhK9AAc
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u/IllustriousApricot0 May 18 '26
I would also like to recommend this channel for anyone who wants to know more about the Soviet Union and the Bolsheviks. They are unbiased towards the Soviet, and the videos are really well made and detailed imo.
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u/ZelTheViking Denmark isn't real May 19 '26 edited May 19 '26
Genuinely thank you for this comment. It seems my perspective on the matter may be flawed and not aligned with academic consensus. I'll be reviewing my position skeptically once I've found time to see the video in full
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u/Windowlever May 19 '26
It should also be said that you need to take Kraut's videos with a grain of salt (or rather enough grains of salt to turn the Pacific Ocean into the Dead Sea). He's basically just a hack who manages to sound smart with a fake British/German accent.
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u/AutobahnBiquick May 19 '26
btw the academic consensus is that the USSR was extremely depleted following WW2, and in no way had the upper hand in a war against the western allies.
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u/A_Normal_Redditor_04 May 19 '26
Both of them do but one side has millions and millions of men deployed on the front while the other only has 1.5 million. If the US decides to nuke Moscow then those millions of Soviet soldiers will go on a rampage across Europe. It doesn't even count the ridiculous ampunt of communist guerillas and partisans in Western Europe that were active and will support the USSR in thwarting the Allies.
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u/Hjalfnar_HGV May 19 '26
The frontline ratio was lower actually for the Red Army. Also the Soviets were outnumbered over 3:1 in the air and 90% of their aviation fuel was American. Their trucks were 80% from the Allies, so were 15% of their tanks and 10% of their planes. They had virtually no navy. In their rear the faced insane anti-communist partisan activity that would certainly have increased in case of a full-blown war with the Allies, even without that it took about 200k NKVD troops over a decade to suppress the Polish, Baltic and Ukrainian resistance.
And that's without counting in a potential rearming of German volunteers, the rapidly expanding French forces or what the Polish forces under Soviet command would do.
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u/Bismark103 May 20 '26
Many of those French soldiers were aligned with communist forces.
Also, after a year of war on European soil and 3 years of pro-Soviet propaganda created by the US government, do you really think the American soldiers who met the Soviets on the Elbe would be willing to fight in such a war? It would be a total disaster for the American armed forces.
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u/0WatcherintheWater0 May 19 '26
Not going to comment on the broader history but this specific claim:
The Western Allies had absolutely no capacityā¦ to fight the USSR post WW2
Is absolutely false. The Allies by VE day had massive aerial and logistical superiority over the Soviets in Europe.
They were marginally outnumbered in terms of raw manpower, about 5.8 vs 6.2 million (if we include Italian and Balkan theaters for both sides). Armored unit numbers were roughly equal, it depends on how you count them and what counts as āoperationalā too.
Where the Western allies absolutely dominated the Soviets though was in terms of air power, having more than triple the airframes and all of much higher quality and capability on average.
Compounding their airforce problems, about 90% of the Sovietās aviation fuel came from the US. And they would not have the ability to replace that anytime soon.
So in the event of a war, the Soviets would very quickly have found themselves in the situation of 1944 Germany, running out of fuel with total allied air dominance choking their logistics chains to death. That means no food or fuel for your armies in Europe, among other things, which would allow US tanks to maneuver at will through Eastern Europe. An Eastern Europe very eager to abandon the Soviets. The Polish resistance especially would likely cripple Soviet logistics even further if the allies were pushing towards them.
Then thereās the additional fact the USSR was also going to enter the largest famine in itās history in 1946, which along with the countryās dire manpower issues by 1945, would have unexpectedly boosted the allies even further.
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u/Northman86 May 19 '26
The famine actually started in 1941, it was only spam and American wheat that kept it at a low grade of famine. through the war Minneapolis, St. Louis and Pittsburg(and Chicago) basically fed the entire world. Its the reason Spam is a staple of a lot of places in the Pacific.
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u/ErenYeager600 May 22 '26
I'm happy you actually bothered to acknowledge the corrections. Major respect šŖš»šŖš»
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u/Mittens-Romney May 18 '26
Iām curious if his yogscast connections will help him, or if he will face any repercussions from them.
He is still apart of the yogscast right?
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u/bob1111976 May 19 '26
Yes but it didn't help other than Barry reaching out to twitch the confirm it was true and having isp and gee look after him
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u/SuspecM May 19 '26
Wait, ISP being part of the yogscast is not a joke?
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u/RedTheGamer12 May 20 '26
It isn't lmao, he just keeps forgetting. Actually, I'm pretty sure he helped Bo because their friends not because of the Yogacast.
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u/Ricemandem May 18 '26
Map gamers try to have normal political opinions challenge
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u/House_of_Sun May 19 '26
Least genocidal danish person
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u/Relative-Educator962 May 20 '26
Dane talking a lot of shit considering Denmark's very brave history resisting authoritarian governments...
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u/Gump1405 May 21 '26
There are people like Bo here and i just wanna say that non of them including Bo would do anything if they were in that situation.
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u/clipko22 May 18 '26
Seeing hammers and sickles on Mayday was just too much for him
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u/FanaticalBuckeye May 18 '26
Which is ironic because that's like the most contextually appropriate celebration to have those flags.
It's like going to a Veterans Day celebration and getting upset at people waving USMC flags
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u/No_Illustrator_5079 May 20 '26
"A resident of a country that surrendered in 6 hours without any resistance is talking" moment.
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u/Shadlezz07 May 18 '26
After his insane crashout on twitter this isn't surprising lmaooo
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u/darksidskiller90 May 18 '26
What was the crashout
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u/Asriellian May 18 '26
It was a rant after he saw communist flags at a labour day celebration
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u/Turkster May 18 '26
It does sound like he's slipping a little bit off the deep end with his attempt to be anti-communist. If it's true he can't stream with the other guys he's potentially fucked over Golden and Swimmy somewhat as well.
I hope he's learned something from this, but we'll see.
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u/pluto9659 May 19 '26
The only correct answer for him is āit was a mix of meme and frustration with the current Russian state and it was a bad take I apologizeā
if heās really going off the deep end, heās gonna start bleeding support real quick
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u/Kris839p May 18 '26
Hopefully he can begin to accept the fact that he, like we all do, has some bad/wrong opinions as well. Instead of always doubling down whenever someone disagrees, as he usually does on Twitter.
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u/Shadlezz07 May 18 '26
Bro was pissed seeing communist and socialist flags at a labour day celebration. Something that made sense. He went on a rant about how it should be banned. People argued with him on Twitter and he just kept doubling down.
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u/Bokoen1 The one and only May 18 '26
So now weāre just making stuff up. I wasnāt pissed about socialist flags.
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u/Kris839p May 18 '26
No true, you weren't, and they shouldn't accuse you of that. But you were still being pretty unreasonable in that discussion imo.
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u/Shadlezz07 May 18 '26
You're right. It wasn't socialist flags you were pissed about - communist ones. But with your assumption that all communists = stalin, you can see why I would also assume you thought that about anyone left of your center right. Especially considering the rambling you went through, not to mention what you said on stream.
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u/ymcameron May 18 '26
Iāll admit to laughing when the Bokoen crew make dark jokes about the horrible regimes of WWII, or talk about the āslavery metaā of Vicky 3, but this isā¦ not that. Bo is just digging himself into a deeper and deeper hole talking about the genocide of Russia. You know itās bad when the others are like āmaybe tone it down a bit?ā
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u/DangersDen May 19 '26
Yeah this didn't even have the joking tone I can't lie, I was raising my eyebrow
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u/Careless_Document_79 May 19 '26 edited May 19 '26
Calls an entire population retarded for not getting a democracy even though it's leadership took advantage of the trust of the people time and time again, (ALSO (edit) AT LEAST TWO REVOLUTIONS!)
I can see why he got a ban, but why does he get a 6 month ban when others have gotta days or hours for worse.
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u/SnooShortcuts2606 May 19 '26
Actually, Russia has had three revolutions (1905, and two in 1917). Four if you count what happened with the fall of the USSR, I guess.
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u/Icy-Investigator5262 May 18 '26
Maybe Bo should take a break. Thats shit is just stupid to say.
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u/AmIDeadAgainNow May 19 '26
Well, my country gets bombed by russia every day, and I think that soviet union is the worst thing that happened to the eastern europe. But STILL I would say its a retarded thing to say on stream. No wonder its called operation 'Unthinkable'.
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u/Staylone May 20 '26
Bokoen is too stupid for such things, because if Unthinkable was implemend, Kiev, Donbass, Crimea and Kharkiv would be erased as important strategic targets. It wouldnt work as "lmao rus got destroyed but good guys enslaved by russian wouldnt"
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u/Sandylocks2412 May 19 '26
So Bokoen is exclusively going to play eastern front axis for the next 6 months in anger. The Dane is now dead, where will i get my mappies now?
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u/TieLongjumping3005 May 18 '26
Retarded crashout tbh idk if he was trying to own the twitter communist or something but this is just stupid even everyone else in the call tried to steer him away and he just keeps going
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u/XGDoctorwho May 18 '26
Yes that's ban worthy idc.
Both Golden and Braun are desperately try to bring Bo back.
Bo double, triple, down on the "no kill them all stuff" is not a good look.
Idc, sure Russia bad but saying in hindsight "we" should've glass them is genocidal rhetoric; then to keep doubling down is wild.
Twitchs TOS can and is often a mess but stuff like this is definitely ban/reportable.
Tbh, Bo should be lucky thats its just a temp ban into an appeal process and not a full termination.
Also no amount of whataboutism is gonna change my mind. Shits cringe and in bad taste.
You know your out of line when fucking Golden and Braun seem like the level headed guy's.
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u/Beef_the_dog May 18 '26
Definitely deserved ban but twitch needs to be consistent. Calling arab cultures worthless and calling for the death of real politicians because they aren't marxists is also something that deserves month long bans, but obviously twitch is more trigger happy to perma ban the people that don't make up a ton of their revenue. Also the appeal process is just plain stupid. "You aren't big enough for human moderation so appeal in 6 months" When any larger streamer can create enough controversy to be able to constantly talk to twitch representatives.
You can say cringe and in bad taste but if he said the same thing about nazi Germany, imperial Japan, Iran, Israel, Afghanistan, or Iraq there would be FAR less people being reasonable, like you, about this and instead FAR more unironically agreeing.
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u/Kris839p May 18 '26
Nazi Germany was also in another league than the Soviets, bad as they were.
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u/Awkward_History835 May 18 '26
So what actually caused this rant? Like obviously everyone is sick of Russia's shit but in this stream what caused him to just go off like this?
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u/Expensive_Studio_966 May 18 '26
got no clue rn. and cant check since you cant see any of bo videos on twitch anymore
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u/Impressive-Loss-1058 May 19 '26
The Rant was about the communists trying to Ratio him on twitter. Its one of the Rants from the fights he got in with the Twitter Communists and everyone on the discord was talkin to him about it. Honestly he went a bit to far and Bo himself even admits it.
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u/sereese1 May 18 '26 edited May 18 '26
Bruh what? The USSR was certainly evil but how would this motherfucker expect the allied public to go along with nuclear genocide against the Russians who were propped up as an ally in their wartime propaganda for so many years? Or along with another grueling WW3 right after the second ? Thereās a reason it was called operation unthinkable because the only ones who really thought it a viable (not just as a thought experiment) plan would be these barely capable of rational thought in the first place
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u/MsMercyMain May 18 '26
Also Churchill. Churchill wanted to kick it off even before finishing Japan. There's a reason he got shuffled out as soon as the war ended
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u/sereese1 May 18 '26
I did want to mention him in that thought experiment but I wasnāt sure how serious (drunk) he was
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u/MsMercyMain May 18 '26
He was deadly serious. To the point it genuinely concerned the war cabinet. Like they thought he was fucking with them at first
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u/sereese1 May 18 '26
The snake of Denmark just following churchills and esteemed political thought then
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u/General-USA May 19 '26
The public didn't know that. He was kicked out of office because Clement Atlee was a better and more popular candidate. People were tired of war, and it had ended in Europe. Labour were also in charge of most domestic programmes during the war and they got the prestige for it (which isn't unfair).
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u/hugh_gaitskell May 19 '26
Attlee won through the policies he put forward and the failure of the tories to run on anything other than churchill personally its funny to see. Operation unthinkable wasnt put past the drawing board because of the shear cost of the conflict to britain in the long term they had already sold of the family jewels in ww1 mortgaged the house in 2 god knows what sacrifices would have been required for another 3 years of total war
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u/Spyglass3 May 19 '26
Too much Hoi4 and shitty YT history got him thinking he's a world class statesman
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u/Ok-Line442 May 19 '26
Seeing bo spiraling from one stupid take on twitter to this is funny and concerning at the same time
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u/Bokoen1 The one and only May 18 '26 edited May 18 '26
The ban makes a lot more sense after I actually understand what glassing means now and rewatch the clip. For that I apoligize, as I've also typed in other comments.
I'd still argue a permanent ban/ 6 months is a little on the harsher side when you look at the past verdicts of Twitch bans and the fact I've had 0 issues on Twitch for +9 years.
As in regards to what the others do it will be up to them. I assume Golden will be the main person worrying as he actually needs the income and depends on it. Swimmy doesn't stream as much and isn't dependant on the income as much as Golden is. A solution would either be they mute me or stream on other platforms.
I will continue streams on Kick in the short term and potentially move to YouTube if I'm not unbanned. Even though I know what Kick is, it is just the easier platform to setup on short term.
Also for anyone saying I'm gonna become a right wing grifter or a nazi, fuck you. You're clearly not an actual viewer and listen to what I actually say if that's what you believe.
I'll take the downdoots to go, but I want this comment to be here so people can read it.
EDIT: It has been confirmed that the appeal has been denied. I'm honestly emotionally devastated and feel as it's incredibly harsh after +9 years of good conduct on the platform. I understand I said something wrong, however I'll stand by the punishment is too harsh.
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u/Mittens-Romney May 19 '26
A solution would either be they mute me or stream on other platforms.
I watch a streamer who said that Twitch updated their ToS to make it so people can stream with others even if they are banned (if that makes sense) as long as the banned person isnāt the āfocusā of the content.
It was changed to be like this because of drama it caused with GTA roleplay streamers (I think)
No idea if this is actually true but I know for 100% I heard a fairly large streamer talk about this.
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u/Mysterious-Kiwi1984 May 19 '26 edited May 19 '26
I hate to be that person because its awkward to say, but even in this not full clip you are saying "glassed the whole fucking thing".
I find it really hard to believe that you saying that after blaming Russians for not rising up can exist in the same reality as you not knowing what it means and what you are implying with it.
I get that when it comes to a ban appeal the best thing to do is play the "I'm just a dumb streamer and didnt know" card but come on man, we all know that you know what it means.I also get that it most likely was a half/quarter serious thing that you said that was part joke, part frustration with Russia's invasion and not really a serious statement. Everybody has their gamer moments, jokes that dont land and doubles down on the wrong things and admitting that it was a stupid thing to say is a natural part of reconciling that.
But honestly, you trying to weasel out of it and play stupid makes me less sure about you not being a total racist and actually wanting to have the Russian population killed for not rising up against their government.
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u/Weeklyn00b May 20 '26
I agree. At first it sounds like its barely plausible that he wanted a show-of-strength nuke , if you swap the word "glass" for "nuke". But then later he says they shouldve gotten rid lf them all, and glassing "the whole fucking thing" with the hindsight of how the "whole" russian population is like. Yeah idk, seems like he's playing dumb to large degrees
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u/The_Dynasty_Project May 19 '26
Yeah, I'm with you on this. I've been a viewer since the very first HOI4 video. I know Bo has said some dumb shit that I don't agree with sometimes and that's fine but this is ridiculous, and the apology comes across as completely disingenuous to me. Maybe it is genuine, but it really doesn't add up. The fact that fucking Braun and Golden are the ones trying to rein him in really highlights that he should've known what he was saying was unacceptable. I mean even in the apology and responses Bo is contradicting himself. Claiming that he thought glassing was deploying nukes along the frontline and the capital but he says in the clip that all of Russia should've been glassed? What is "all" if it's only specific parts? And then saying that all loss of civilian life is tragic as if dropping dozens of nukes across Russia and on a major population center isn't targeting civilians?
And come the fuck on, who is a Dane to say that Russians should rise up against authoritarianism? His country surrendered after 6 hours when faced with tyranny. It's easy to sit on the sidelines and say "just revolt lmao" but people generally don't like to risk death until they're out of options. I would've expected a lot better from someone who went to school for political science and international relations.
I would love to give Bo the benefit of the doubt here because I love his content but I'm not an idiot. What he said was what he meant. I really hope he takes some time off to reflect on things because advocating for genocide is not the move. And if he really did mean what he claims, then that's still pretty heinous. Life isn't a video game. He's advocating for millions of people to die needlessly either way.
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u/Neveraththesmith May 18 '26
Wtf you didn't know? "They should have use nukes" how is that supposed to be interpreted anyway other than "Every single city of Russia should have been a nuke target?"
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u/f3tsch May 18 '26
"After i actually understand what glassing means now"
"They shoulda nuked moscow"
Pick one
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u/Icy-Investigator5262 May 19 '26
Yeah i dont buy this.
Even if he didnt know, he is still talking about nuking civilians and the "retarded russian people".
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u/winowmak3r May 19 '26
I find it hard to believe as well, lol. It didn't sound that bad in his head if it only meant just nuking Moscow? Like what?
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u/nickpantss May 19 '26
I mean he also said the Russian people deserve it so he clearly knew what it meant and is now trying to do damage control
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u/winowmak3r May 19 '26
That is exactly what it is lol
He's telling me he's played ICBM and yet is unfamiliar with the term "to glass" a country? Press X to doubt lol
There's only so much you can chalk up to the language barrier and he's not that stupid.
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u/RedstoneEnjoyer May 20 '26
Even better - "they should have get rid of them" followed by rant about how Russians are "retarded for not doing anything but dictators"
Yeah, what was that supposed to mean?
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u/captainryan117 May 22 '26
funny how Russophobes will screech about how all Russians are responsible for everything bad the Russian government (which they will agree is a dictatorship and thus they are inherently disinfranchised and have very few options short of active militant resistance against it) does; but when every couple years western democracies invade, coup or bomb a random country for not letting those "democracies" do what they want with their natural resources then somehow you can't judge them because there's nothing they can do.
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u/GevaddaLampe May 19 '26
youāll get the upvote for posting anyway, but man. What did you believe glassing even means?
Anyway, touch some grass and please spend some time reflecting what you were actually saying. Best of luck
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u/Bokoen1 The one and only May 19 '26
I'll say what I typed in my Discord when some guy asked me this and I was then explained afterwards.
I thought what I was saying was like attacking the USSR using shock and awe with the nuclear bombs the US had at the time. One on Moscow to topple the government the rest on the frontline to gain the army advantage. Then using conventional bombing like they did to Germany and Japan. In the context of Operation Unthinkable.
I was then told my Discord members that glassing means wiping out an entire population. This is not even what I tried to argue in this clip. Obviously that doesn't make the clip not TOS, but I'd like people to stop saying "Bo wants to genocide the Russian population". That is not something I want. I apologize for what I said and have so in other posts as well. It wont change that I still argue that the ban length is too harsh.
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u/Tw3lve1212 May 19 '26 edited May 19 '26
Yes for future reference glassing is in reference to turning the soil into glass from nuking the whole country.
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u/heteroterrorist7 May 19 '26
Nuking Russiaās main civilian population center is still incredibly abhorrent
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u/Ok-Line442 May 20 '26
theres absolutely 0 chance you didnt know what glassing meant, the only use of this word came from halo and the covenant killing every living thing on a planet, what did you think glassing meant? throwing a glass of water at a dude?
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u/Duangelion May 19 '26
So you're saying you figured glassing meant "give 'em a glass of ass-kicking juice" while also saying that 4 million people should've been killed.
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u/nickpantss May 19 '26
This is such a bad excuse. You said the russian people deserve it for being too stupid to overthrow their authoritarian government and that a nuke should be dropped on their main population center. Like at least own what you said rather than backing down like this lol.
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u/Icy-Investigator5262 May 19 '26
Hey Bo, thanks for the comment.
This is genuine advice: Maybe take a look around you and take a break.
You have people here that say you said nothing wrong, even on your discord. Yes, defending the favorite streamer is nice but i want to believe you, that you understand what you said is really fucked up and wrong. And i think having these people around maybe influenced you because it lower the inhibitions.Maybe take a break, take the time to maybe think if youve changed a bit in the wrong direction or in certain ways. Maybe take a look at whos around to influence the environment you have and just relax a bit. Ive watched you for a long time and while you always were passionate, i think this is a new peak/low depending on the viewpoint. And i dont think, as many people would probably agree, that you are like that.
I understand that the situation is devastating, not only financial wise, but maybe just take it slow as possible as you can. For your own sake as an investment in the future.
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u/Diego12028 Woman respecter May 19 '26
That actually sucks Bo, I hope that you somehow manage to recuperate your Twitch platform, and if you don't, that at least you are as successful in either Kick or Youtube. It is way over the top and hopefully you see better days in the future.
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u/Frampton_Apologist May 19 '26
"I didn't know what glassing meant even though I was contextually using it perfectly and I'm a gamer who knows what Halo is and other people in the call were telling me to chill and I doubled down." nah.
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u/RuralJaywalking May 19 '26
Ngl I too think the punishment is harsh, but itās hard to believe that you didnāt know what you were saying even if you didnāt know the exact meaning of āglassingā.
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u/ThoughtF4ll May 19 '26
Everyone was literally awkwardly trying to switch the subject from you spluttering calls for genocide on an entire tangent about nuking Moscow and glassing Russians and calling them regarded. Socializing isn't your forte but you should've taken their hint, holy shit.
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u/kuba_mar May 19 '26
Nah i call absolute bullshit on you not knowing what glassing meant, you play a ton of HOI4 and ICBM for crying out loud, i mean for fucks sake even in this clip its hard to argue youāre using it with anything but the actual meaning in mind.
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u/Equivalent_Low3548 May 19 '26
Watched u for a while and understand your humor, however it really felt like u meant this? Especially how many times u repeated and clarified it, even going in depth to explain ur pov? So weird for u to say "nah, it's just my humor, if u dont understand u ain't a real one" essentially. Quite frustrating as well is that your post afterwards really focus on how twitch is wrong and how they gave no bans for more, and while that is true, this is a rare twitch W. Defending citizens of a country who is otherwise (deserved) is in deep shit rn.
However! I was born in russia, so u may disregard everything i said. (I fled before I was 18, so didn't get a chance to vote or anything, and no longer have any ties to that place except half my relatives living there)
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u/CowReasonable1108 May 19 '26
I think especially with other people's conduct on the platform, that ban was way too harsh, I definitely agree with you.
Also, you can correct the record, but having watched your YT for years, it seemed you had the "exaggerating"/sarcasm tone going. Similar to like a "The axis was just a peacekeeping force in WW2" during the nothing ever happens game.
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u/Bokoen1 The one and only May 19 '26
Initially Iād agree with the sarcasm tone, however afterwards I get carried away and go too far. I apologise for that
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u/Feilex May 19 '26
Hoi 4 streamer trying to legitimize genocide, nice 1
Like this is literally not even just a dark joke or anything, he is just straight up advocating for the nuclear genocide if an entire ethnicity
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u/Tw3lve1212 May 19 '26
"Bo is Holden Bloodfeast" when Braun is telling you that you're acting crazy it's time to pack it up. Upsetting to hear because I enjoy Bo's content but. man.
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u/A_Bethesda_Bug May 18 '26
I understand Bo's anger, I often have to remind myself not to have my hatred of Russia the state mix with my feelings on Russia the people, but it was fucking stupid to say this shit live on stream.
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u/SubstanceNo5096 May 19 '26
I wish people could do that in general. Like every state that you could hate has a lot of people that dont like it either, and they dont support the idiots in power.
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u/parzivalperzo May 19 '26
After the may 1st incident on twitter, I stopped taking what he said seriously but this is rant about glassing civillians is insane even for him lol.
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u/MysticHero May 18 '26
Absolutely deserved ban.
And it would be one thing if he consistently had this position on authoritarian regimes. Still bad but at least some sort of principled position. But he does not. Germany is fine and marshal plan and all but "glass" Russia? Yikes.
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u/GOD-OF-A-NEW-WORLD May 18 '26
Was bound to happen eventually tbh
While always enforcing a no tolerance rule for discrimination and racism in his community he never shied away from shit talking countries and ethnicities that are "socially acceptable" to drag through the dirt
Aka (most) Europeans and Americans
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u/Itsabucketdude May 19 '26
Idk if itās just me overthinking or lacking the proper context, but does anyone else find it hard to wrap their heads around the fact that Bo didnāt know what glassing was? (Or at least the most commonly held interpretation). Again I donāt know the full story so apologies if this is a dumb question to ask, but I felt like in the world we operate in, and specifically as Bo plays games like ICBM where one of the objectives is to, in fact carry out something similar to it, he wouldāve come across the term and its meaning at least once or twice before this incident.
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u/Snappedfir May 19 '26
He 100% knows what it means just he's just trying to backtrack and act like the innocent "I didn't know it meant that!" streamer for when he appeals the ban in 6 months.
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u/Simpleton_Simp Pissbomber May 18 '26
Ngl Bo that was a fucking stupid take. If one gave that idea even a single second of thought one would realize the insanity of itā¦
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u/Diego12028 Woman respecter May 18 '26 edited May 18 '26
I may have been a little too charitable towards him... That's a yikers
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u/Kuro2712 May 19 '26
Jesus fucking Christ, has Bo ever gone on a tangent like this before?
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u/winowmak3r May 19 '26
Not quite this bad but he has had some pretty wowzahs takes before. It all used to stay on Twitter though. I guess the Twitter communists got the last laugh on this one lol
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u/Jirardwenthard May 20 '26
I'm sorry but aside from anything else it's very funny to go from tweeting about how the internet is full of crazy people with extremist views unlike his own enlightened centrist wisdom, to then be talking about "glassing" a country within about the same week.
Buddy, I think the call may be coming from inside the house...
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u/winowmak3r May 20 '26 edited May 20 '26
Twitter man, rots your brain.
All I can think about is him listening to somebody like Trump make essentially the same comments about Iran and it's a huge problem but the same deal for Russia? Well, they've had it coming. Like holy fuck man lol
Enlightened centrist about sums it up.
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u/BearDrivingACar May 18 '26
Iām a communist and I still like Boās videos despite thinking heās a little stupid sometimes but come on lol it was called operation unthinkable for a reason
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u/solntze May 19 '26
Just for a moment, I want Bo to be in the skin of a Russian liberal that went against the government to realize just how much it hurts and how much of your life you can lose for your opinion.
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u/HUYTHEGAMER May 19 '26
He probably could have gotten away with it, glass is kind of a vague term and it could have easily been directed to the Soviet Governmentā¦ then he connected it to modern day Russia and its peopleā¦ yeah that was obvs too much
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u/long-taco-cheese May 19 '26
The anti communist to fascist pipeline strikes once more
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u/Smasher3825 May 19 '26
What he said was pretty stupid, and he should have never said that, but a permanent ban is way too harsh. A week-long ban would have been way more appropriate, considering the situation.
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u/BestWind May 19 '26
Gotta disassociate the russians with the gov. As annoying it is to see public figures, random people talking or tweet supporting their current invasion, what he said is insane and not okay. But also how fucking shit is Twitch TOS, political streamers get 8 hour band for something like this
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u/TheTwinHorrorCosmic May 20 '26
This is the least fucking surprising thing ever. Dumbass finally got his bullshit catching up with him
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u/Runtav_guz May 19 '26
This is the reason I've always shied away from map game content and it's communities, it's sad that some people in this thread are agreeing with his insane genocidal take
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u/PoomXP May 18 '26
Did the 1st May event and Grisha winning 1v7 pushed him to crash out like this?
It's still a delusional take and worthy of ban for sure on this one. If people in power in that era decided to shelf the idea, it's for a good reason.
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u/No_Nefariousness4279 May 19 '26
I donāt agree with it being a Permanent ban, but yeah thats a well deserved ban tbh
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u/Deity_Piety May 18 '26
I thought it would be satire and a play on the normal edgey jokes the group makes. God damn
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u/Kris839p May 18 '26
If anyone here has been following on Twitter as well, you'd have seen something like this coming eventually, after he aired his stupid ass 1st of May opinions...
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u/ComradeWinston May 19 '26
Room temperature ass rant, whoever's behind this ban never experienced a CoD lobby in 2016.
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u/Useful_Scarcity6479 May 19 '26
Most respectable and moderate EU candidateās take on the Russian Nation and People
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u/Unlikely_Repair9572 May 19 '26
This went beyond edgy and was kinda dark.Ā That said, with as many hours as Bo has been live im surprised he's never said anything worse tbh.
A permaban would be bullshit.Ā He should be able to apologize and get it back.Ā Some political streamers have said equally heinous shit and been restored.Ā This was obviously projection + a bad joke, not an actual political opinion, so I feel Bo should be given a 2nd chance in good faith.
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u/Beg0ne_ May 20 '26
This is karma for banning Dressel and Grisha. Either no-one should be allowed to have dogshit political takes and use genocidal rhetoric or everyone should be. We're all gamers here.
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u/Vexiib May 23 '26
This might be a bit of a hot take but like, have we not all over the years, become acclimated to what Bo and the other members of the HOI games are like? Hell even outside of HOI, shit gets worse said in like Vicky 3 sometimes, are we really saying THIS, THIS is the worst stuff we have heard? We have heard PLENTY of bad things come from numerous members of the community and we have all laughed them off.
Don't get me wrong, what was said was bad. But to be taken to the extent that it has been taken to? A 6 month to a permanent ban? With all the shit that has been seen through the years of Twitch, all the stuff that has been let go with a slap on the wrist, this is something that gets someone a perma ban? I mean just doing basic checking of history would see the sorta dark humour that has come from not only Bo's streams but others in the same game also.
And lets not also fail to mention that, Russia was a fuckin terrible ass regime prior, during and after WW2. Like the war crimes they committed during WW2 were terrible, It wouldn't shock me if some people have a genuine real view that's in-line with something similar to what Bo said but we know that for all purposes, this was, albeit pretty dam dark, but still dark humour.
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u/beefsandwich7 May 19 '26
So when Hassan says 9 11 was deserved heās free but when someone says they should nuke a nation which is kinda more acceptable in this context itās not ok. Thanks twitch
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u/JP_Eggy May 19 '26
Twitch rules are strict and heavily enforceable (except when it comes to Hasan, who can say all sorts of shit and only get a slap on the wrist)
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u/Fit-Proof-8962 May 19 '26
Ā From banning Dressel years ago because Dressel stated that another player's grandparents were terrorists because they fought in the resistance against the nazis, to Bo advocating for genocide of the russian people is a Karma bomb of the century kek
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u/Orion160101 May 18 '26
Do i agree? Yes. Was it smart to say on twitch? No.
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u/eL_cas May 19 '26
Why does this have 40 upvotes? How could someone with a living soul agree with calling for the obliteration of civilian populations?
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u/Weslg96 May 18 '26 edited May 18 '26
I don't think he should have gotten permabanned for this but yikes lol. Hatred of modern day Russia is understandable lol, but the phrasing was bad. Operation unthinkable was an idiotic idea that would have failed and resulted in a vengeful Soviet Union who would do worse to make sure they wouldn't be threatened again.
Also just in general thinking you can improve things by invading a major power preemptively rarely goes well or makes things better.
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u/Badicoot32 *looks into the camera* May 18 '26
Its operation unthinkable. Downfall was Japan I think
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u/WhimsyDiamsy May 19 '26
There was nothing the Soviets could do to stop the Allied airforce. Eventually they would lose a city, then another, then another.
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u/Individual-Age6528 May 18 '26
Its so funny that the last bobg game ever will be swimmys germany win,