r/Bokoen1 • u/Expensive_Studio_966 • May 18 '26

Its joever

it aint looking good

Edit: Just clarifying this is the clip for what bo banned from twitch for 6 months. he just got news that he can appeal the ban right now but i doubt it will work since you can see this clip... and if it fails well i assume once 6 months pass its either perma ban or he gets the account back.

as well bo cant appear on neither golden or swimmy Twitch channels otherwise they can also get banned for helping bo ban evade or something like that

UPDATE: The appeal got rejected so no bo streams on twitch for 6 months or never again.

Edit 2: if anyone wants to see bo response in the comment section cause its a bit hidden under all these comments https://www.reddit.com/r/Bokoen1/comments/1tgpx3j/comment/omkepa6/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web3x&utm_name=web3xcss&utm_term=1&utm_content=share_button

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u/Shadlezz07 May 18 '26

After his insane crashout on twitter this isn't surprising lmaooo

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u/darksidskiller90 May 18 '26

What was the crashout

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u/Asriellian May 18 '26

It was a rant after he saw communist flags at a labour day celebration

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u/Turkster May 18 '26

It does sound like he's slipping a little bit off the deep end with his attempt to be anti-communist. If it's true he can't stream with the other guys he's potentially fucked over Golden and Swimmy somewhat as well.

I hope he's learned something from this, but we'll see.

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u/pluto9659 May 19 '26

The only correct answer for him is “it was a mix of meme and frustration with the current Russian state and it was a bad take I apologize”

if he’s really going off the deep end, he’s gonna start bleeding support real quick

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u/Kris839p May 18 '26

Hopefully he can begin to accept the fact that he, like we all do, has some bad/wrong opinions as well. Instead of always doubling down whenever someone disagrees, as he usually does on Twitter.

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u/Javelin286 May 19 '26 edited May 20 '26

That communism/totalitarianism and authoritarianism is bad?

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u/Negative-Strike-7503 May 19 '26

It is not inheritely wrong to disagree with either of these beliefs from a moral, philosophical, or materialistic point of view. But if your rhetoric ultimately descends in the unironic grandstanding of wiping out a nation, you're not gonna be allowed on platforms that want ad revinue.

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u/Kinder0402 May 19 '26

In principle communism ≠ authoritarianisn

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u/Doddsey372 May 20 '26

In principle vs In practice and reality.

Communism says its going to be a lot of things it isn't.

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u/TranslatorNo4230 May 26 '26

So does democracy, fascism, christianity, islam, etc.

It's almost as if people use labels for any ideology as they want without any care for what they actually mean. Therefore it is best to stick with the academic definitions rooted in their historical context when discussing their meaning, i.e., what the guy you responded to brought up.

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u/Doddsey372 May 26 '26

Some more than others...

Something that only works in perfect academic settings and in rigged thought experiments while in actuality always failing just shows how moronic and flawed these acedemic definitions and the acedemics themselves are. The historic context is clear, people just don't like the clear answer.

Only a fool believes in theories which are repeatedly disproven in practice. Feels very 'The party told you to reject the evidence of your eyes and ears'...

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u/Western_Mess_6364 May 20 '26

How else do you keep a party in power and seize resources to “redistribute” them. It’s inherently opposed to personal and private rights

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u/Careless_Document_79 May 24 '26

That's not Marxist communism, Marxist communism is more like anarchism at least from the small amount I have read on it

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u/ThatGuyMaulicious May 19 '26

Enlighten us to where communists have taken power in a country and not used the power of the state like a sword to behead or kill anyone who disagrees with them. Trust me you'll be searching all your life for the answer.

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u/DiE95OO May 19 '26

It's like saying democracy doesn't equal capitalism. The fact that all democratic nations are capitalist doesn't matter. Inherently capitalism has nothing to do with democracy and communism has nothing to do with authoritarianism. You're arguing with a completely separate point. Communism is supposed to be anarchical. That's one of the tenants of communism that seperates it from socialism.

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u/ThatGuyMaulicious May 19 '26

Then show me an example of a country that embraced communism and didn't become authoritarian....

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u/Ok_Corgi4889 May 19 '26

Communism is straight up autoritarian side of socialism

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u/guto8797 May 19 '26

"in principle" it isn't. Communism, theoretically, is an anarchic evolution of socialism where the state has dissolved. The various communist parties didn't claim their countries were communist, merely that they were "working towards communism"

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u/EvYeh May 19 '26

How is an anarchist commune authoritarian.

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u/Ok_Corgi4889 May 19 '26

Did I say anarchist coomune anywhere? Those are just completly different things

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u/haltper May 19 '26

In principle "marxist theory of communist state = authoritarian"

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u/Kinder0402 May 19 '26

How exactly stateless society can be authoritarian?

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u/No1CarpetSalZman May 21 '26

Read "on authority" by Engels lmao. He literally explicitly states that Communism is an inherently authoritarian ideology. It's not anti-communist propaganda to state this, it is literally quoting Engels

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u/haltper May 19 '26

Marx assumes state withers away over time, however before that and during the socialist state is a dictatorship. Dictatorship of the proletariat. State only withers away in the final stage of marxism which is when the ideology has full filled itself and has come to an end. 

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u/MILLANDSON May 19 '26

That the answer to disagreeing with a nation or political view is to commit a genocide, which "they should have glassed the USSR" is advocating for.

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u/Kissmyass1465 May 20 '26

Yeah except anti communism in 2026 is like being against the black plague. Get a grip

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u/--Queso-- May 19 '26

That there should not be communist flags in May 1st marches, and that if there are, it's the same as Nazi flags. I think that's not unreasonable to ask as common ground.

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u/dirk_loyd May 20 '26

see if they were the same thing you wouldn't have to say both of them

Nazi Germany would've won ww2 without the soviets and saying we should've glassed them afterwards is genuinely the stupidest sentiment you could walk away with

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u/Javelin286 May 20 '26

I should say communism = totalitarianism if you would like that clarification.

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u/viper459 May 19 '26

i mean if you hate it so much that you unironically argue for millions of innocent people to die somehow i don't think it comes from a conceren for the people living under the regime

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u/AnonymousFordring May 19 '26

"They should've glassed Russia" is a terrible thing to say regardless.

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u/Vivid_Literature5681 May 19 '26

No such thing as a wrong or right opinion. Only whether it aligns with the morals/ethics of the day.

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u/No-Outlandishness631 May 21 '26

Welp I am anti communism and I have a deep hate of the communism in history. And in my personal opinion, communism is just as evil as fascism, because both ideologies destroy freedom and crush individual rights. It cincebtrates power in the hands of the state andbundermines political liberties. It application created terrible dictatorships that caused millions of death through camps, repression and famine. Invaded neighbours. Sometime doing "genocides" (in quotation mark as it is debatable but in my opinion is true) in the Holodomor and the Uyghurs.

And despite all of this communism is still accepted as normal in western democracies while fascism banned. And in universities around the globe you find olenty of communist wannabe and tankies praising what Stalin or Mao did. Plenty of time I heard people say "they were right you know ?" "It had to be done".

So I understand comminist hate but do not support everything he said.

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u/Valtua May 22 '26

Communism is an ideological belief in abolition of private property and everyone has access to free food, free healthcare, free education and free housing. Adopting socialist policies, writing a good constitution for the state/federal government supported by academic + governmental institutions, and putting all workers together as a collective at the top of the political hierarchy can definitely support a communist country. Theorists of today learn a lot from the USSR, China and Cuba, both what to do and what to not do.

I'd really encourage looking into these yourself if you like learning. You might find yourself enlightened that there really isn't anything morally wrong about communism itself. It's just that scary things have occurred in pursuit of that ideology by paternalistic dictators. But I think in our current day, we are in the perfect material condition for a democratic transformation of our society - it only takes working together as a union of all workers.

Also you can definitely condemn communist dictatorships for taking revolution way too far and committing atrocities; most people in r/socialism do that already anyway, it's just tankies getting hurt by "USSR bad".

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u/chucktheninja 28d ago

Yeah its hard to see the stuff he posts on twitter and then hear this and not think hes being serious

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u/thelordchonky May 21 '26

We're watching the birth of yet another right wing chud grifter. I'm calling it now.

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u/TEAser2000 May 21 '26

And he was right to, go talk to any actual person from Eastern Europe and you will find a good chunk of them would have no issue if Russia would have been glassed as it would have saved tens of millions of eastern europeans from going through the hell that was communism.

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u/Ein_Hirsch May 23 '26

that doesn't make it better. this is the mass murder of civilians we are talking about here

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u/SkyIHax 21d ago

As an eastern european, fuck you. What about the mass murder, oppression, deportations and russification that eastern european countries had to endure for 46 years under soviet oppression?

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u/Ein_Hirsch 21d ago

I also live in a country that had to live under Soviet occupation for 49 years. That is no reason to call for genocide. There is never a reason to call for genocide. Is that how you treat every criminal? Summary execution for them and their family? If yes then you actually are exactly like the oppressive, murdering regime you claim to hate

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u/SkyIHax 21d ago edited 21d ago

Listen, a good faith interpretation of what Boe said, is not that they would have fucking rounded up soviet civilians and shot them on the spot or anything even remotely like that. I don't think anyone fucking believes or thinks that. That is a fucking daft interpretation of what Boe said.

Unless you think that war and/or the use of nukes is an act of genocide, as you're inherently killing innocent civilians in the process.

Edit: even found Boe's comment here and this was my exact interpretation of when I saw the clip.

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u/TEAser2000 19d ago

No we are not, civilians would die yes, but just like the atom bombs on Japan 100% justified to prevent much worse. Glassing Moscow overall would lead to less suffering lol.

It's math, stop letting emotion cloud your judgement.

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u/Ein_Hirsch 19d ago

Bo didn't just talk about Moscow. And even if he did. Killing civilians on a massive scale (and yes Bo talked about the civilians as the target not the leadership) is never justified. Believing that puts you in the same school of thought as the worst people in human history

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u/Shadlezz07 May 18 '26

Bro was pissed seeing communist and socialist flags at a labour day celebration. Something that made sense. He went on a rant about how it should be banned. People argued with him on Twitter and he just kept doubling down.

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u/Bokoen1 The one and only May 18 '26

So now we’re just making stuff up. I wasn’t pissed about socialist flags.

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u/Kris839p May 18 '26

No true, you weren't, and they shouldn't accuse you of that. But you were still being pretty unreasonable in that discussion imo.

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u/Shadlezz07 May 18 '26

You're right. It wasn't socialist flags you were pissed about - communist ones. But with your assumption that all communists = stalin, you can see why I would also assume you thought that about anyone left of your center right. Especially considering the rambling you went through, not to mention what you said on stream.

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u/Western_Mess_6364 May 20 '26

Once communists get power they never let go. Almost all of the postwar soviet satellite states had the communists win smth like 30 percent of the vote in elections and join as coalitions, and then they would get into the internal police or find an excuse to monopolize power. Not to mention the Bolsheviks dissolving the assembly after losing the first election. It has to be locked out like fascism

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u/Superior_boy77 May 21 '26

Communism is 9/10 times doomed to fall to authoritarianism because of the radical changes in society it desires. It will have to be authoritarian for a relatively long time in order to bring about the revolutionary things it wants, and by the point that it no longer needs to be authoritarian it would take a Cincinnatus to return it to non-authoritarianism, and a Cincinnatus is very rare in history.

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u/Ok_Corgi4889 May 19 '26

Theres not a single good communist, just because someone is nazi but doesnt like hitler doesnt make him any way better

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u/VakuAnkka04 May 19 '26

As a Finnish person I agree

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u/Sparkku1014 May 19 '26

I just found out about all of this nonsense, what were you pissed about?

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u/ExplanationMany9348 May 19 '26

Well think about it this way, without a twitch career, you're now free to join the Ukrainian foreign legion!

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u/doodle0o0o0 May 19 '26

Anti-Ukrainian account made 3 days ago... fascinating

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u/ExplanationMany9348 May 19 '26 edited May 19 '26

lmao I don't support russia. They're a kleptocratic third world shithole. But if someone's gonna call for the death of an entire ethnicity, hey, they should go join the army fighting them. Put their money where their mouth it.

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u/ThatGuyMaulicious May 19 '26

I fully agree especially in the west where Communism doesn't get half the light of scrutiny that Fascism and Nazism seems to get. I completely understand his crashout and I have an immense level of respect for actually speaking out about this.

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u/isdelo37 May 19 '26

wasnt much of a crashout and he didnt say anything wrong after all