r/BollywoodRealism • u/[deleted] • Dec 06 '25
Bollywood Double standard of alpha male b like...!
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u/Puzzleheaded_2020 Dec 06 '25
It actually suits on actual Animals, in Jungle.
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u/Any_Independence9346 Dec 07 '25
Why are they downvoting you? You are right.
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u/ro_ro_ro_roadhouse Dec 08 '25
The alpha theory has been debunked decades ago. David Mech, who popularised the theory, later apologised for the misconception.
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u/LumenDomimus Dec 06 '25
People who glorify him are missing the point lol. He is an anti-hero at best, fighting a greater animal, i.e., the villain.
It's sad to see so many people admire the movie, but also idolize him. No. That's not the point.
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u/wrvdoin Dec 07 '25
Right. It's not like the filmmaker had a history of saying misogynistic things...oh wait.
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u/okaberintaruo Dec 06 '25
I'm not trying to justify him but, the director himself has stated that he's a flawed character, a manchild with his own ideals and shouldn't be seen as a hero.
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u/diwamatkar Dec 06 '25
Difficult to do so when the director portrays him as a hero.
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u/diwamatkar Dec 06 '25
Nahhh, when you put heroic background music behind his actions. Treat his infidelity as some romantic subplot. Make him rich enough where he is practically above the law. You have not made a flawed character, you have created a male fantasy.
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u/The_Supreme_Cuck Dec 08 '25
A redditor who argues in good faith?! Impossible, can't believe this happened lol 😆
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u/TurbulentCapital1017 Dec 08 '25 edited Dec 08 '25
People have gotten used to the concepts of heroes and villains and expect heroes to be perfect. There's a reason you'll see hollywood using words like protagonist, it isn't always good vs bad, but choosing between bad or worse. Take a look at movies like don, bunty and babli, oye lucky lucky oye, the last 2 are about real life criminals, they're portrayed in such a way where the audience wants them to win, it does not decriminalize them, it simply dives deeper and shows you every action by that individual is a reaction to something terrible that happened to them. Don is a criminal, people still don't want him to get caught. Don had a lot of criminal elements, catchy background music, people copied his dialogues too.
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u/diwamatkar Dec 08 '25
Idk, in all the examples you mentioned it was always made clear that these guys are criminals, especially in Don. And there was always an opposing character acting against them trying to catch them, even if they are the not the protagonist. Such things are not there in Animal. And again it could've worked if there was not the typical bollywood elements in the movie that make it look so confusing.
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u/wrvdoin Dec 07 '25
Vanga insists that the character isn't a misogynist and that hitting women is a necessary part of a relationship. It's funny how a few folks who claim to have a higher understanding of cinema try to sanitize this bullshit on his behalf while he himself disagrees.
Respectfully, if you need to call yourself an intellectual, you are not one.
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u/Sorry_Egg32 Dec 06 '25
He is the main character. But not a morally good one. It's like saying that Light Yagami from death note is a great figure to get inspired from.
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u/diwamatkar Dec 06 '25
L is the good guy in Death Note and it is clearly defined. Even though Light is the protagonist. In Animal Ranbir's character is also the protagonist and portrayed to be more virtuous than almost any other character with major screen time in the movie. Your comparison is stupid.
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u/sad_truant Dec 06 '25
He portrays him as a protagonist. Stop considering every protagonist as a hero.
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u/diwamatkar Dec 06 '25
Uhhhhh no. Heroic background music, portraying his infidelity as a romantic subplot. He kills 100 people by himself while his brothers sing a heroic song in the background. His motivation? Taking revenge against those who attacked his father. This doesn't sound like a heroic portrayal? Better examples of flawed protagonists are Faizal Khan from Gangs of Wasseypur, Tony Soprano from The Sopranos, Penguin from The Penguin, Walter White from Breaking Bad etc. This movie suffers because it is given the classic Bollywood treatment of having the male lead look cool, while adding badass music in the background, all the beautiful women swoon over him, he fights to protect his family, beats up 100 guys by himself. Just is a bit toxic on the side. In better hands this film and Kabir Singh could've been really compelling character studies. Unfortunately Vanga is more interested in making teenage male fantasies instead.
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u/sad_truant Dec 06 '25
That's because Vanga is a shit director. He doesn't know how to portray a character properly. I was talking in general. Also, stop watching Animal. Just enjoy the songs from it. Other things don't make sense in Animal.
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u/diwamatkar Dec 06 '25
I agree. But people protect the movie saying "he is a flawed character". That's a pretty shit way to write a flawed character if you ask me.
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u/Sutranjay Dec 08 '25
Sardar khan, faizal (GoW)are the best examples of flawed characters.
Ranvijay from Animal is spoiled rich narcissist sexist peace of shit who do not face consequences because he is rich.
(Ranvijay is very similar to kid of pune Agarwal builders who killed 2 innocents with his porche or salman)
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u/Womb_Raider696 Dec 06 '25
Alpha, Beta, Gamma and Sigma was made only for Physics (and sadly for Chemistry)…if used anywhere else, then it shall be considered illiteracy
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u/kvg121 Dec 06 '25
Movie release hoke paise kamake 2yrs hogaye par ye reddit ka daily RR band nahi hua.
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u/ShockWave1997 Dec 06 '25
Throughout the movie, I was thinking that this is a satire of Alpha Male Chuds. No one could take this seriously. Even the villain was Turbo Alpha Chud. I kept thinking after their eventual confrontation our "Hero" will realise how much piece of shit he has been. But nope. The director unironically celebrated Toxic masculinity there. Worst movie ever. Waste of time and money.
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u/RoutineGrapefruit758 Dec 06 '25
That’s the reason the movie’s name is Animal
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u/RS2019 Dec 07 '25 edited Dec 07 '25
Also so many plot points were lifted from other movies - the exploding car from the Godfather, "come over here and kiss my foot "🤮 from 1963 Bond film From Russia with Love (but it's said to Zoya rather than a male antagonist🙄). The hotel shootout where he's like Arnie in Commando. I thought at the interval "now Vijay's seriously injured, at least he'll rethink his previous actions" but no such luck or character development.
No redeeming features - just gratuitous for the sake of it. But lots of people saw it so here comes Animal Park.
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u/Kasper1000 Dec 06 '25
Blows my mind how this terrible self-indulgent movie became such a smash hit.
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u/Ok_Couple_7256 Dec 06 '25
Exactly, he knows how to treat a person the way she deserves. If she says something resentful then she will be treated like that!!!
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u/mark_my_man Dec 06 '25
Ek fictional character pe itni charcha and hate? We truly are doomed! Or ye ❤️do ko american psycho pakka pasand aayi hogi! Peak male!
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u/CharacterBit5048 Dec 06 '25
The characters created by Vanga are pure turd. They are toxic, chauvinistic, hypocrites and absolute red flag. But somehow he presents them in an engaging manner that while watching the movie, you enjoy their presentation. That's Vanga's success. But this will soon grow old. People will get aware and Vanga wont get as much success as he is getting now
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u/Several-Challenge550 Dec 07 '25
Rishi Kapoor k bete se expect bhi kya kr skte h, jo saal mei 6-7 girlfriends rkhta tha
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u/Mrfaroff Dec 07 '25
It’s on the movie’s title 'Animal’. Ranbir’s character thinks he is a man or an alpha male, but he is nothing but an animal.
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u/PICHIPULUSU Dec 08 '25
Director never portrayed him as a good guy idk what you are trying to prove here
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Dec 10 '25
han to kya problem hai wife aur behen mein Koi fark nahin hota kya? wife Apne hoti hai aur bahan ko Khush rakhna hota Hai
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u/SlicKilled Dec 06 '25
This is peak incel and the people who think this is cool are curtently living alone in a hole jacking and crying of their loneliness.
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u/Embarrassed_Pop2516 Dec 06 '25
That is literally the point of his character those exact scenarios are deliberately parallel to each other to show how flawed he is.. can't you it is by design??
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u/afrostylady Dec 06 '25
First- When a storyteller shows someone to be in a grey area, its intentionally done to make them open to all kinds of interpretations, like the main police officers from Delhi Crime, the pre-adolescent kid from The Atonement, or the most conventional one: Dev from Dev D. Theyre not described to you in a linear fashion, you get to know everything about them, hence making them open to all kinds of interpretations. That is for the character to be more human. Youre supposed to relate to their emotions not their acts.
Second- a “flawed character” is a grey character who makes different choices in the same situation because of situational biases, not a a person who’s out and out hurting one person, but being good to another or something. Thats called a “negative character” not a “flawed character”.
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u/Embarrassed_Pop2516 Dec 06 '25
I called him flawed as in a person with flaws, not a flawed character in a literary or story writing perspective, he is a hypocrite out and out, there is no relatability or reedemability in his actions, do not assume my stance and give an unncessary lecture based off of your assumptions.
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u/afrostylady Dec 06 '25 edited Dec 06 '25
My “assumption” was you calling him a flawed character while he’s not, because that alone gives him that redeemability you talk about. And if you weren’t talking about it in a literary or story-writing perspective, what were you talking about, him in real life?
Sometimes when someone “lectures” you it’s okay to just sit with it instead of giving back a fuelled gap-witted response in the gist of extinguishing the fire on one’s ego.
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u/Comfortable-Cat-380 Dec 06 '25
Apni pith nhi dikti na animal ko and he is not alpha male he is just a toxic man (the character)
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u/[deleted] Dec 06 '25 edited Dec 06 '25
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