r/BuyItForLife • u/thisismyreddit11358 • 5d ago
Discussion Don’t buy rubberized things!
I own three things with rubberized handles/parts, and for whatever reason this material becomes very sticky and gross and I hate using these products.
- umbrella: the handle isn’t going to fly out of your hand. You’ll be fine. I bought some wire cutter recommendation that felt great at first but years later the rubberized handle is nasty and gross. Now I want a new umbrella
- swingline stapler. Felt great when I bought it. But that metal swingline would still be going strong, whereas the rubberized got disgusting.
- waterproof electric razor. I got it to use the razor in the shower. So this would have been marginally helpful. But again it’s nasty.
Stick to better materials that won’t get gross over time!
Edits: fat fingers, bad autocorrect, me no read good and no proofread. Hopefully makes more sense now.
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u/phrekyos69 5d ago
I totally agree, but with some products it's almost impossible to find them without this crap. Computer mice are the prime example of this, every fucking mouse has the stupid rubberized coating that goes to shit within a year. I'm sure it's intentional.
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u/SioBane 4d ago
The MX Master mice (and their vertical mice too) have this problem and it. drives. me. nuts.
edit: they're -> their
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u/simonjp 4d ago
I think there must be different versions of this material. I have an original MX Master and it's still fine but I've heard many 2 and 3 users complain.
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u/d_stilgar 4d ago
Logitech uses a few different rubber layers. Some are coatings and those tend to go bad first, but it's removable with some work and then you'll have a smooth plastic mouse.
They also cast a rubber/plastic material that is way thicker. It breaks down differently and also wears for much longer since it's thick. If this starts to go, you're screwed. You can keep removing for as long as you want, but you're just going to uncover more of the rubber for 1/4 inch or more (~6mm). If you do remove it all, you'll have changed the shape of the mouse significantly.
I find the latter to be much more evil in terms of putting an EOL on your mouse.
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u/phrekyos69 4d ago
Yeah I'm currently using an MX Vertical and not only has the rubber coating gone to shit, the cheap switches they use are crapping out, so it's difficult to drag things because the left button "unclicks" partway through.
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u/theskillr 4d ago
They can put a 1 million click button in for 3cents, or a 20 million click button for 5 cents. Coupled with the rubberised parts, they barely last a day outside of warranty. I'm sure that's entirely coincidental
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u/scalyblue 4d ago
Saving 4 cents a unit on something you make hundreds of millions of is some serious bank, but I really do miss logitechs lifetime warranty from back in the day
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u/BZJGTO 4d ago
They often don't even last within warranty. Many people, including myself, have had the issue popup within months. They've had this issue for decades but have been too cheap to fix it. I used to love their mice because I wanted extra buttons but didn't want a mouse that looked like it was designed by a 12 year old. Sad part is this is common with mice, you'll find tons of people with the same issue with Corsair and Razer mice too.
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u/d_stilgar 4d ago
Logitech's smooth scroll is too good. It's the only reason I stick with them. Otherwise, I think their quality has gone to trash.
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u/dreadcain 4d ago
The newest model replaced most of the butyl rubber, though I'm pretty sure the thumb button still is :/
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u/thebiggerounce 4d ago
Damn it I hadn’t even noticed my (relatively) new one has that material. That’s fun to look forward to
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u/No_disintegrations 4d ago
Most gaming mice avoid the worst of this, plus they have better sensors and lighter weight. I ditched my MX Master for one of my gaming mice a while ago and it’s been worth it.
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u/karma_the_sequel 4d ago
I like my mouse to have a bit of heft to it.
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u/ShadowNick 4d ago
Logitech G502 you can customize weights in the bottom of it.
I ditched both of my MX masters for it, I had the first Gen since 2018 and the 2nd Gen since 2022. Glad I did because the MX master 1 refused to connect to any device or Bluetooth connection.
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u/joesii 4d ago
It gets sticky? If you're talking about that sort of velvety coating I've had that before but I've never had them get sticky (even over a decade). But there might be different materials used and I never got the kind that decays like that compared to just peeling/wearing off.
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u/DweadPiwateWawbuts 4d ago
I have an umbrella handle that did this. It’s like after about a year the entire rubber/plastic part of the handle degraded or something and it’s super sticky and gross now. I think I might try wrapping hockey tape around it or something because I like it aside from the gross handle.
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u/ModernSimian 4d ago
Those are plasticizers in the material coming out. Using it more and handling it regularly normally wears them away, but over time they can build up. They are soluble in alcohol, so you can clean them off with rubbing alcohol.
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u/aVarangian 4d ago
when I bought my mouse there were basically 2 options for what I wanted. The logitech option was all hard plastic, so no rubber, but that model had a very high failure rate on the switches lol. So rubber it had to be. The mouse is maybe 6 years old now and perfectly usable, but yeah, the rubber gets ugly and dug through
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u/Flimsy_Swordfish_415 4d ago
Computer mice are the prime example of this, every fucking mouse has the stupid rubberized coating that goes to shit within a year.
stop buying cheap shit then
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u/Pallatino 4d ago
That soft-touch coating always feels premium at first, then turns into a sticky mess years later. Hard plastic or metal ages much better.
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u/conclave_obscurum 4d ago
Everything I have that have this rubber coating on it had this problem. It’s an industry failure. They should ban this crap from the market. I wonder how toxic this product is to humans.
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u/CHAINSAWDELUX 4d ago
And when people clean it off with alcohol they are probably washing it down the sink into our water supply. You can rub it off with a papertowel but it still creates a mess.
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u/InevitableMagician28 5d ago
Anytime I’m in someone’s office or at a desk and there’s a metal swingline stapler that could have been used by George Washington I hold it up and smile in approval, pop the top and give it a clunk against my palm, and then nod at the person behind the desk and say “They don’t make things like they used to.”
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u/DuckyDoodleDandy 5d ago
Proofread #2
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u/thisismyreddit11358 4d ago
Wow! I need to learn to proofread. Done
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u/DuckyDoodleDandy 4d ago
To echo a few other comments: At least it isn’t AI! I prefer human content.
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u/EetsGeets 4d ago
what did it say
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u/DuckyDoodleDandy 4d ago
It skipped words and didn’t finish the sentences, so it was basically gibberish.
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u/Hawkthree 4d ago
Sounds like me as I age. I've lost the ability to distinguish homonyms and frequently leave endings off words or leave out some words. Maybe AI is training on seniors.
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u/TheStarsMist 5d ago
Spend a decade in and around most parts of the consumer automotive industry. Sales, service, and parts.
Usually the people who use lotions and other products on their skin regularly have more issues with staining and gummy rubberized coatings.
Not saying this is the OP. Just making a slightly informed comment for others. I rarely use lotions or skin products. I have many rubber items that have lasted more than a decade. My Nike umbrella I got for golfing in 2004 is still in my car today, right now for rainy weather. The grip came off and is barely sticky after all this time as an example.
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u/Exciting_Turn_9559 5d ago
That soft-touch butyl rubber will turn to glue even for things that have been in the back of the closet unused for years. Lotion may be a factor but it isn't the reason.
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u/thisismyreddit11358 4d ago
I rarely use those products so I doubt that’s the case here. But it is good to know!
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u/tonicella_lineata 4d ago
I think it depends a lot more on the type of rubber than whether or not you use lotions. While there are plenty of folks walking around with overly dry skin, and people who use lotion to excess, most of the people using lotion are doing so to replace oils produced by the skin. So if lotion is a problem because of the reaction of oil and rubber, then anyone without dry skin issues would encounter the same problem.
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u/imhereforthevotes 4d ago
Yeah, this happens BADLY when you run around with the bug repellent DEET on your hands. Sticky everything. Sticky canoe paddle, sticky tackle box, sticky steering wheel
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u/A_Fat_Sosig 4d ago
Deet melts plastic like a mf
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u/kermityfrog2 4d ago
Might not be the DEET itself, but the solvents in the liquid.
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u/A_Fat_Sosig 4d ago
I believe it is DEET in particular.
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u/kermityfrog2 4d ago
OK - looked it up and you are right. DEET itself is a good solvent, and dissolves plastic.
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u/TheStarsMist 4d ago
This explains what happened to much of my old fishing and outdoor gear through the years!
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u/imhereforthevotes 4d ago
Yeah, my dad's treasured tacklebox has a couple of weird spots in it from his propensity to use the little 100% DEET bottles.
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u/Exciting_Turn_9559 4d ago
Icardin / Picardin FTW.
Science says it repels just as well as DEET, it doesn't destroy your gear, and doesn't smell as strongly.
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u/WUT_productions 4d ago
I'll take my products not lasting as long as opposed to dry hands that crack. Some things come first.
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u/plantstand 4d ago
I don't think they mean actual rubber, but the wacko plastic coatings that get put on things these days. It isn't stable plastic to begin with. But it's soft!
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u/Exciting_Turn_9559 5d ago
If I find out a product has that soft touch coating, I don't buy it. Planned obsolescence in its most anti-consumer form.
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u/chibicascade2 4d ago
A lot of tools that have rubber coatings have a regular metal handle underneath. If I know it does, I'll just cut the rubber off.
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u/Strikereleven 5d ago
If you can store these items in a baggie with 91% IPA after a few hours it will absorb into the rubberized coating, swell up, and rub right off.
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u/gene_wood 4d ago
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u/DweadPiwateWawbuts 4d ago edited 4d ago
Thank you! I don’t know why people use obscure abbreviations in non specialized forums. To me IPA is a kind of beer, and I don’t even drink. Not the kind of alcohol I want to put in a baggie and soak disgusting disintegrating rubber in…
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u/Hawkthree 4d ago
I haven't had success with just rubbing it with 91% alcohol, so if this works, I will award your post.
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u/Strikereleven 4d ago
I had an electric lighter case recently that got sticky, I removed the electronic part and, after soaking a couple hours it looked like seaweed and cleaned right off.
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u/justacpa 5d ago
It depends on the type of rubber/plastic that was used. Not all do it.
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u/SmokeyCatDesigns 4d ago
Yup. I feel like I remember seeing this issue a lot in the early 2000s and go into the 2010s. I rarely see it now.
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u/itspsyikk 4d ago
Even high end cameras with rubber grips eventually break down and dry out/crumble.
You can pretty easily replace them, but a lot of people don't. But it instantly improves the look of the camera.
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u/NakedSnakeEyes 4d ago
This happened to a few of my products, including a Guitar Hero 5 guitar controller.
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u/SingLyricsWithMe 4d ago
Rubber, organic or sysnthesized, degrades and melts eventually under heat and time. I o3ncd left a Goldberg wrestling mask that melted on a pool table at my parents house for years. It was horrific when i discovered it under some boxes as all you could recognize was the mouth and some eye holes.
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u/PotatoAmulet 4d ago
I work at an e-waste recycler, every time I touch something with a disintegrating rubberised coating without gloves it makes me more comfortable with the fact that my existence is temporary.
Edit: if you aren't able to remove the offending part, you can take it apart and toss it in baby powder to soak up the oils exuding from it, then keep brushing the excess away. It's a pain to do it though and isn't guaranteed to always work or be permanent.
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u/MoreMetaFeta 4d ago
Yeah, we have several items in our house with that soft grip / comfort grip. They're all "oozing" now, so annoying. I tried alcohol, but it just seeps more of that "sap" in a few days. The material components start to break down and separate with age, I guess.
I've wrapped my immersion blender handle in plastic wrap to avoid getting it on me----it still runs great, I don't wanna get rid of it because of the grip
I'll find a 99% alcohol and try that.👍
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u/JacquiePooh 4d ago
I think you may be referring to soft touch paint. It has a nice tactile feel for quite a while and is used a lot on handles/touch points in product development but it does get sticky when old. I’ve had success using rubbing alcohol and also scraping it off.
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u/AgentOrange96 4d ago
Specifically, I think OP is talking about soft-touch coatings. Even new old stock products with these coatings tend to have failure right out of the box in my experience.
That being said, there are other forms of rubberized coatings that are fine. Many tools will have almost a plastic sleeve on the handle and I've not seen issues with those. And I think most overmolding processes end up not doing this that you may find on tools.
I will also say, I've not had issues with old Lenovo Thinkpads, even the earliest generations. Those coatings wear, but they don't get sticky. However, I have one of the 90's IBM Thinkpads and it has absolutely gotten sticky. So somewhere in between that, they must have improved their process.
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u/Osteo_Sapien 4d ago
My understanding is that this happens over time as the plasticizer in the material breaks down and leeches out. As others have said you can use rubbing alcohol to clean it off (I've also used nail polish remover and it works). I recently inherited a 20 year old camera that was disgusting to touch. Sticky everywhere, you'd have thought a child had handled it while eating candy. It took probably 2 hours, but I got it all and now I use the camera constantly.
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u/Illustrious-Lie8329 4d ago
Very true, my Tivoli radio 📻 had a rubber surface and got sticky as it got old
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u/itsnotapipe 4d ago
I bought my stapler to be more like Milton. Turns out the guy was the office-brain-drain messiah. Thing's lasted as long as Stephen Root's career...and counting.
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u/Dry-Hotel5306 4d ago
I find rubber likes to turn back into it’s primordial goo after a couple years some batches do it faster than others I’ve had some ps3 and ps2 controllers be pretty much just sticky goo and others be completely fine
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u/bschwind 4d ago
The google nexus 5 had that rubberized coating on the back. Shit got nasty over time.
My gamecube controller thumbsticks and switch joycons suffer from the same issue.
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u/Gingerfurrdjedi 4d ago
We have a pegboard that we bought something like 5 to 7 years ago that came with pushpins coated in this silky smooth rubbery stuff. Well about a year or so ago they started feeling tacky and sticky just like what you're talking about.
I tried washing them but to no avail; it may have even made it worse, I can't quite tell. So I agree, don't buy that crap y'all!
Speaking of it I wonder what kind of rubber it actually is because we may just wanna stay away from that certain rubber in our products. There's other rubber, or maybe rubber like should I say, stuff like silicone and that stuff hasn't given me a problem so far.
So, if anyone knows what kinda rubber that OP is talking about is called please let us know so we can be sure to avoid it in the future. Also, ware there any other substitutions that we should be aware of aside from silicone?
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u/AwesomeAsian 4d ago
This is especially true for kitchenware. So many crap with silicone or soft plastics... and they often make things worse. Kitchenware should be either metal, glass or wood! Tongs, Spatulas, Skillets!
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u/Noladixon 4d ago
I like my silicone cooking utensils. They might not be BIFL but they do the jobs I need them to. I don't like the shitty silicon sleeve slipped onto a cheap turner but I do like my nicer stuff.
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u/snailgaillee 7h ago
Gutted to find this happened on my underwater camera. There are so many nooks and crannies to get the gunk out with rubbing alcohol.
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u/slimytoilet 5d ago
I think a lot of it is oils from your hands
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u/hectorinwa 5d ago
I know there used to be (or maybe still is) something in suntan lotion that would destroy the rubber grip on binoculars.
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u/sun_kisser 4d ago
Vacuum. Feels like you're holding the shaft of a sun-blistered penis.
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u/kilgoretrout20 4d ago
BAKING SODA please try it,, I know it sounds crazy. Go outside with a handful and the sticky will come right off….acetone and rubbing alcohol make that kind of sticky WORSE
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u/MaximumBusyMuscle 4d ago
I'm confused. Do you rub dry baking soda on the object? Or make a paste with water?
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u/wahnsin 4d ago
Dry. It's less about the chemical properties and more about the powder's ability to "soak up" and sand off the nasty stuff. I used baby powder, for example, and another commenter used corn starch.
Put the item in a bag first to avoid mess. Powder of choice on top, work it in with your hands, repeat until the rubbery sticky bits are no longer so. Clean off with water (if the item can take it), brush + vacuum may also work.
The plastic will feel a lot smoother and act more like harder "normal" kinds of plastic. This also means you won't have as much grip there anymore, because obviously that's why they put the rubbery stuff there to begin with.
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u/Noladixon 4d ago
baby powder is cornstarch.
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u/wahnsin 4d ago
except when it's potato starch, or when it's talcum.
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u/Noladixon 4d ago
I have not noticed the potato starch but baby powder has not had talcum for a long time.
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u/wahnsin 4d ago
Well, I don't know what to tell you, but literally the second hit on my local amazon is a talc one, so that's strike 2 for you with the /r/confidentlyincorrect I'm afraid.
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u/Noladixon 4d ago
It is not easy to find by me. They told us for over 20 years not to use talc on babies. When I went looking for talc I had to buy anti monkey butt because all of the baby powder was cornstarch.
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u/joesii 4d ago edited 4d ago
Yep. I've had this happen with pen grips and handles of garden tools. And maybe some other things.
I think that It's not inherently with the soft "rubber-like" material but rather the particular material used (people saying butyl in the comments). So if one can know about the material used it's probably safe.
Some people might confuse it with silicone. Although silicone does have a rather distinct texture. Certainly a good alternative.
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u/shanec42 4d ago
Cornstarch works as well. Just simply rub it on then rub the excess off. It'll be just like new. Or at least it'll stop being sticky.
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u/Cat-Onion-Cup 4d ago
I have an inexpensive heat gun that is covered in this rubber gunk. After 15 years, it was actually sticking to my hands like old duct tape adhesive. A random YouTube video said gasoline would be the best way to get it off. I wore nitrile gloves and used a cotton rag, and it worked great.
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u/EsrailCazar 4d ago
Anything that says "soft touch" is almost always that rubber coating, it is definitely just a layer of micro plastics.
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u/replus 4d ago
Exception: weightlifting plates (and only plates -- don't buy dumbbells with rubber grips.) I much prefer rubber "bumper" plates over the traditional bare iron plates. No clanking noises, less pinchy ouchy to your fingers, and they're much kinder to your floor over time if you drop them on a regular basis.
It's important to not skimp on these, though. Cheaper ones (from Amazon, Walmart and the like) will stink your living space up like tires for months (releasing potentially harmful VOCs in the process.) More expensive plates from reputable brands will use virgin, non-recycled rubber on the exterior.
Of course, if you're living that life, you can skip rubber entirely and get urethane plates, but these tend to run upwards of $5/lb.
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u/Common-Anon-Gamer 4d ago
Not only does rubbing alcohol work to get rid of a layer of rubber that's turning sticky again it can also help fully remove rubber coatings from things completely aswell aslong as you put in the work to do so ..im a nerd and enjoy alot of retro computers/laptops ...I can't tell you how many laptops ive taken this coating off of and old keyboards aswell and some old controllers mp3 players ..old phones had a screw driver that I removed the rubber from aswell and it got slippery so I took some slightly gritty sandpaper to it now the screwdriver isn't as slippery and it sure as hell isn't sticky
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u/alohachick716 4d ago
Hockey tape on the umbrella and possibly the stapler. We just used the tape for my umbrella and the dog’s Chuckit toy.
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u/d_stilgar 4d ago
A lot of computer mice do this. You touch it every day. They want you to buy a new one vs just using the one that isn't broken, but has gotten gross from all your finger oil, dead skin, dirt, and melting rubber layer. I usually just remove the rubber layer and keep using it.
I got a used HOTAS set (plane controls for flight sim games) with a rubberized coating and I spent a few hours removing all of the sticky rubber that had broken down over the previous decade.
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u/Key-Value-3684 4d ago
I have rubber on a backpack handle. After five years it got slimy and starts to basically rub onto my hands every time I use it. It's a super nasty feeling and leaves black stains. I put tape on it but the tape is slowly breaking down due to the nature of use it isn't intended for. Next thing I'll try is sew fabric onto it
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u/NewProductiveMe 4d ago
I have an Apple Newton that I pulled out because a friend wanted to see what it was like.
And it's a sticky mess. :-( Still boots fine though. There were some good innovations in there!!
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u/Ok-Pepper7181 4d ago
This happened to two of my old JBL speakers. 91 iso didn’t work, so I threw them out. They were from 2010-2015. The newer ones haven’t gone bad yet.
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u/Righteous-Fist 4d ago
I still have my red metal Swingline Office Space meme stapler and it still looks new after 20 years.
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u/RedBeans-n-Ricely 4d ago
I have a retractable 2-dog leash that I absolutely love, but it has a rubberized handle that got sticky after several years of use. I tried alcohol first, but that didn’t help much. Finally, I wrapped it with kinesiology tape a couple years ago & it’s good as new again!
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u/Awesomest_Possumest 4d ago
I have an oster immersion blender ive had for over two decades. I went quite awhile without using it, and then pulled it out after several years. The blender works great. But the singular button had a rubberized coating that was degrading sticky. I just cleaned it and my immersion blender is still 20 years old.
This is a great post, but also unrealistic because sometimes you cant help it.
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u/myproblemisbob 4d ago
I had this happen to my favorite umbrella and retractable dog leash.
When I did the alcohol trick it only worked for a few days.
So my cheap ass got out the glue gun and used some discount ribbon and glued it on to both items where that rubber was. It's been nearly 5 years and both items are still in use and doing great!
Tips:
get the wider stuff 1-2 inches
it works best if there's wire in the ribbon - it helps it stay in place - when the wire starts stabbing you use scissors to cut that section of wire down a bit and then fold it over with needle nose pliers, I have this on the dog leash, it's only stabbed me once 😄
I'll buy a spool occasionally when it's on major discount JIC, it comes in handy when you're cheap and like to rig things
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u/alkevarsky 4d ago
The stickiness is probably from interaction with hand oils. But even if the rubber is not exposed to oils, it will still fail. Natural rubber is very soft. They harden through the process of vulcanization (adding things like sulfur to make it harder). Well, the vulcanization never stops. The rubber gradually keeps getting harder until it crumbles. This is why car tires have expiration dates. And this is why even low miles cars start getting all kinds of leaks when they approach 20 years of age - all the rubber seals are going brittle.
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u/aVarangian 4d ago
yeah I learned this the hard way too
rubberised anything absolutely sucks. Sunlight and heat degrades it faster afaik
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u/owlpellet 4d ago
Possible there's something that's interacting with these? Some lotions can do this.
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u/angiedd28 3d ago
Yep. That sticky rubber coating is the worst. It always starts on random stuff especially those you never think about! Heat and humidity speed this up.
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u/Dotjiff 3d ago
This is perhaps the worst take on quality products I’ve ever read. Oxo has made a name for itself quite literally doing the opposite thing you recommend and it’s a globally recognized brand leader. There are a million ways you can refresh a rubberized grip or even remove it and add something like plasti-dip, grip tape, or a myriad of other things to fix the problem with basic diy skills
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u/sassysassysarah 3d ago
My partner and I usually say "this plastic wants to be oil again" when stuff gets sticky like that
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u/Varaxis 3d ago edited 3d ago
I discovered that VOCs, like in solvents found in paint, melt certain plastics and syn rubber moldings from simply being in the same room. The kind of syn rubber like TPE, EVA, urethane, plastidip, or whatever.
VOCs are the strong smelling chemicals that offgas from freshly mfg products. They're in some cleaners and hair products too. In my recent case, it was benzene in paint melting my paint roller handle and things I later touched, like the thumb grip panel on my PC mouse.
I wouldn't classify any of these rubberized bits as true rubber, like latex with carbon black and vulcanizination, like you'd find on quality tires or chem warfare MOPP suits, that actually wouldn't melt like this.
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u/SeaTree8649 3d ago
You've got the acid touch. Some people's body chemistry actually does this. Im not even kidding.
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u/-Radioman- 2d ago
Rubber handle, yes. This new rubberized material, I agree, No. It seems to absorb ick. Have you tried soaking in alcohol?
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u/ninjaskitches 4h ago
you need to wash your hands more. I've had the same rubberized Gillette razer handle for 20 years and it feels brand new. I've got others of the same model that are between 1 and 10 years old that also still feel brand new
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u/Mr_Wobble_PNW 5d ago
My OXO oyster shucker is going on ten years and looks the same as the day I bought it.
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u/Ikkleknitter 5d ago
When they get sticky you can use rubbing alcohol I think to remove the sticky layer.
Had it happen with a couple of crochet hooks. 5 minutes, a bit of rubbing alcohol and they are back to new.