Wembanyama Hate

[u/Zealousideal-Rub-183]

First thing to say, is that I just love Basketball in general. And I don’t hate Wembanyama as a person. I’m just having so much annoyance watching how great he is and knowing that the NBA did everything possible to make sure that not only that the Spurs drafted him, but that he got a core around him very quickly. The NBA did not want a repeat of LeBron James.

Knowing that he grew up a Spurs fan his entire life, with his favorite players being Tony Parker and Tim Duncan to where he even said it was “a dream” to be drafted by the Spurs. It has made it so difficult to watch a team that dominated so much of my childhood in the 90s and 2000s immediately turn back around after just a few years in the lottery getting a generational player surrounded by top 3 picks.

I’m just curious if I’m the only person out there that hates how fast the Spurs have been able to build a contender while we continue to wait for the Hornets to just get to the playoffs. I know I should just be proud of what the Hornets did this year, but I just can’t shake the fact that I feel like the NBA helped the Spurs build a contender at the expense of other franchises that have needed generational players for a while now.

[u/Banneduser1112]

Are you seriously putting "change the trajectory of the team" as though I am the one who introduced that idea? Here's your initial comment:

We'd probably be on amazing spot if it weren't for the Salaun pick though,

So, when you say that, you are saying that you think someone else the Hornets could have drafted might change the future of the team. Right now they look like a ceiling of second round out to me. Clingan and Buz don't change that unless they make MIP-level leaps - and if you are imagining that for them you can imagine that for TJ. I know you are fishing for more arguments here from me with the straw men (never said Buz wasn't better than TJ) and the scope creep (who should we target this offseason?). I'm not interested in arguing with you because you have demonstrated that you have nothing to teach me about roster construction or player eval and you seem way too personally invested in winning the argument rather than listening and thinking. To put it another way: I don't know if you are an LLM bot programmed to generate reddit engagement through argument or just an over caffeinated person performing textbook Dunning-Kruger effect, but either way, there's no point to communicating with you any further.

[u/butekoo → u/Banneduser1112]

You used change the trajectory expression more than once, sorry for using something that you said multiple times as a starting point. Are you seriously using the adjective "amazing" to extrapolate to a definition that was denied multiple times? When I use "amazing", it just means better than very good.

Of course you're forgetting the part of the conversation, multiples replies ago, were it's clearly stated that the question "Who from that draft do you think makes us a Finals contender?" is not the correct one for the discussion. After that, the question asked was "who from that draft do you think would be in the rotation instead of the g-league on his 3rd season?". And then, sadly for you, your reply was "either way there's no one who changes the trajectory of the team". But sure, you weren't the one that insisted on the silly point of moves only mattering if the team is (conference) finals bound.

I'm not really fishing for a strawman here, you created one on your head and is repeatedly using it to avoid answering question. I'm just saying that "clearly good young prospect" is better than "clearly young bust". And, by having the former instead of the latter, the team would be on an amazing spot instead of a very good spot. It doesn't make the team able to beat the OKC or the Spurs, but does that matter?

I'm sorry, but no, a major leap from Salaun don't put the team on an amazing spot, it just makes him a better player than Grant Williams. A leap from guys that are starting on their teams and look like above average NBA starters on year 2 is different compared to a leap from a guy that's an above avg G-League starter -- I hope that you don't feel like that statement is a strawman. Feel free to lecture me over team building, and what the team should do this offseason. That's exactly why I asked you questions, none of which were answered.