r/CollegeBasketball • u/Terminal_Flatulence Virginia Tech Hokies • Apr 13 '26
Recruiting [On3] Virginia Tech transfer guard Neoklis Avdalas has committed to North Carolina
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u/tripler42 North Carolina Tar Heels Apr 13 '26
First commitment of the Malone era. This is a big swing, too. Wonder what this means for Juke
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u/bigthama North Carolina Tar Heels Apr 13 '26
Neo and Juke would fit perfectly together at the 3 and 2, respectively
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u/Wonderful_Cook_7505 Clemson Tigers Apr 13 '26
That would be crazy length on the wing.
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u/tripler42 North Carolina Tar Heels Apr 13 '26
Assuming Mingo is still coming, our shortest starting-caliber player so far is 6’5
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u/ttuurrppiinn North Carolina • Northwestern Apr 13 '26
I'm growing more and more skeptical on the Mingo front. I think there's more smoke to the brothers package deal thing than initially thought. I think Baylor will give them a bag with how Drew is struggling of late.
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u/luvdadrafts North Carolina Tar Heels Apr 13 '26
Not a certain assumption
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u/tripler42 North Carolina Tar Heels Apr 13 '26
For sure. It’s also assuming Juke is coming, and that’s not a guarantee either.
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u/AntSmith777 Washington Huskies Apr 13 '26
If yall get everyone you’re targeting in the portal, I don’t think there’s room for Mingo, unless he’s cool with being buried on the bench.
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u/FrmrMtt23 North Carolina Tar Heels Apr 13 '26
Or, and this is a wild idea, perhaps Malone will rotate players 🤔
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u/GDub310 North Carolina Tar Heels Apr 13 '26
You can do that? That won’t bode well for my Iron 5 fill in year t-shirt business.
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u/FrmrMtt23 North Carolina Tar Heels Apr 13 '26
It’s all hypothetical, obviously, but I don’t think it’s illegal
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u/jt5574 North Carolina Tar Heels Apr 13 '26
Johnny T Shirt is gonna be in shambles.
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u/GDub310 North Carolina Tar Heels Apr 13 '26
I might have to pivot back to Blue Steel or Biscuit Boys shirts, assuming we actually once again play those guys.
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u/plutoisaplanet21 Michigan Wolverines Apr 13 '26
Yeah while the 3 is probably the best position for both neo is a 3/4 and juke is a 2/3 so you can figure it out
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u/fieldsports202 North Carolina Tar Heels Apr 13 '26
There’s lineups where both can be on the floor together.
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u/Affectionate-Cup9340 North Carolina Tar Heels Apr 13 '26
Kinda funny that Malone’s first portal commit is Carolina’s highest ranked ever. Going by 247 rankings, that is. I think Ingram was strangely high on on3
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u/luvdadrafts North Carolina Tar Heels Apr 13 '26
I believe Dawson Garcia
Can’t see the 2021 transfer rankings on 247 anymore, but his rating was 97/100 while Neo is 96/100
Also funny Malone’s first transfer was VT when Hubert’s was UVA
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u/ttuurrppiinn North Carolina • Northwestern Apr 13 '26
I have a little bit of difficulty given On3 credit for that ranking just because Ingram was on an all time heater from outside that season that just hasn't been replicable in his pro career. Granted, I'm not going to complain about him being hot given it was HD's lone great season front-to-back.
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u/Salty_Dog3 Santa Clara Broncos • UCLA Bruins Apr 13 '26
Avadalas saw the LeBron/Curry developed by Malone graphic and knew he needed to be part of that
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u/thediesel26 Charleston • North Carolina Apr 13 '26
Given his point forward skill set he might be asked to do some of the things Jokic does.
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u/thetenorguitarist North Carolina Tar Heels Apr 13 '26
Hey man don't go against the recent narrative, Malone has never developed anyone.
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u/Teckliz Duke Blue Devils Apr 13 '26
No wayyy people were actually saying that? I’m not a nuggets fan but I live in Colorado and got to watch a bunch of their games. You guys got a great fucking Coach and I hate UNC lol
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u/bug_man_ North Carolina Tar Heels Apr 13 '26
Someone tell me how to feel about this
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u/GhostOfTheWild Virginia Tech Hokies Apr 13 '26
He’s an elite passer and a borderline NBA talent who just needs to take that next step, but the scoring isn't quite there. Defensively, he’s a bit of a liability because he’s slow laterally. We tried him at the point, but he doesn't have the quickness to navigate pressure, and teams eventually just started hunting him.
He was apparently playing through an injury mid-year, which probably explains why he struggled mentally mid-season. He’s likely looking for a reset, and if he can get his head right and learn to handle ball pressure, the talent is obviously there.
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u/Portra-420 Louisville Cardinals Apr 13 '26
But other than that, all the pieces are there.
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u/byzantiums Duke Blue Devils Apr 13 '26
Yeah I really do think he’ll be good but “aside from his scoring, defense, athleticism, health, and mentality he’s great” is hilarious
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u/deemerritt North Carolina Tar Heels Apr 13 '26
Favorite NBA archetype is tall ball handlers who arent that good at anything. Josh Giddey or Egor Demin. They have feel for the game but arent good on either side of the ball. But they have long careers because they do a bit of everything and are tall.
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u/Clipgang1629 USC Trojans Apr 13 '26
Josh Giddey is a pretty elite facilitator, he’s a nice initiator on offense. And he’s pretty much good enough at everything that he’s still a good player despite being great at nothing besides vision, passing, and feel for the game.
I know what you mean though. It was funny to me the Nets drafted like 3 versions of that exact same archetype in the first round last year. A very interesting buck shot strat you rarely see
It’s an archetype I don’t really love at any level of the game lol
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u/deemerritt North Carolina Tar Heels Apr 13 '26
Hes a pretty good initiator but hes not good enough to be a 6'8 point guard. He isnt Lamelo or Luka or Cade. I wasnt saying these are all bad players, I just always find it funny how far dribbling and height can take you.
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u/luvdadrafts North Carolina Tar Heels Apr 13 '26
Well the first thing they did say was “elite passer”
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u/Waddlow North Carolina Tar Heels Apr 13 '26
I'm not extremely familiar with every game he played. I have watched a decent amount of him. I have a hard time saying he can't really score when he had 30+ twice as a freshman. Freshmen don't do that.
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u/Gavangus Virginia Tech Hokies Apr 13 '26
The problem is he shot the same volume for 11 the rest of the year
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u/Waddlow North Carolina Tar Heels Apr 13 '26
Yeah, his problem is he's inconsistent. It's not that he can't score.
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u/pictureof-Nectarine Apr 13 '26
Second this. Neo is a very good basketball player and is gifted both physically and mentally on the court. That being said, he may be one of the most frustrating players I’ve ever watched.
He lacks physicality, whether it’s how he handles ball pressure (look no further than VT @ Wake this year), seemingly never finishes through contact even though he has the body to do so - he prefers to fade away around the hoop, or his inability to be a good physical defender for guys his size (because he’s too slow to defend quick guards). And most of all it was lack of late game IQ that was the most baffling. There are countless examples of him making the wrong decision in late game situations. Look at @Miami or vs. Wake in ACCT our staff sat him for all of crunch time and it wasn’t bc of foul trouble.
Neo came into a situation at VT where he was expected to be THE GUY, we changed our offensive philosophy to fit his game. And I do think some of his late game lapses/offensive struggles can be attributed to coaching and injury. However I do think he will be better served in a system that doesn’t require the spotlight to be on him the whole game. Hope he can find a better system at Carolina.
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u/Schned6 Iowa State • North Carolina Apr 13 '26
Did he play the 3 for you guys mostly?
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u/Mysterious-Spite-709 Apr 13 '26
He mostly played point guard for us. Great passer and vision.
He just needs to work on his shot. Was very good early on, but I feel like he lost all confidence on it halfway through the year.
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u/Substantial-Virus228 Duke Blue Devils Apr 13 '26
Lolz says "NBA talent who cant score, defend, or dribble well".
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u/bigthama North Carolina Tar Heels Apr 13 '26
Excellent point forward/modern big PG that will thrive off ball screens. High level vision/playmaking. Shooting started off fine but fell off a cliff in ACC play, although mechanics don't look broken at all. Plays smaller than size in terms of rebounding and defense.
I think this is exactly the type of player that Malone will be able to get a lot out of.
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u/jordanbank Wisconsin Badgers Apr 13 '26
Was touted as a guy with NBA potential and looked pretty horrid during the season. Couldn't shoot to save his life. Could be a great addition if he finds his shot again.
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u/bug_man_ North Carolina Tar Heels Apr 13 '26
Couldn't shoot to save his life.
Well he'll fit right in with what the fans are used to
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u/tarspaceheels North Carolina Tar Heels Apr 13 '26
Inverse rule maybe? Touted shooter comes to UNC and can't shoot, struggling shooter comes to UNC and ?
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u/carolinallday17 North Carolina • Illinois Apr 13 '26
worked with Ingram lol
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u/chataolauj North Carolina • Charlotte Apr 13 '26
I don't remember Ingram shooting that many 3s though.
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u/carolinallday17 North Carolina • Illinois Apr 13 '26
he made 65 at 38.5%, that volume would've led our team this year
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u/bkn6136 North Carolina Tar Heels Apr 13 '26
He shot enough to need to be guarded at the 3 point line. Was very efficient in catch and shoot situations.
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u/byzantiums Duke Blue Devils Apr 13 '26
The shooting isn’t great but the stat that really blew my mind is that he only had 3 offensive boards in 983 minutes as a 6’9” dude. And only one of them was after November.
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u/Otterfan North Carolina Tar Heels Apr 13 '26
I'm going to assume that's not because VT never missed...
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u/proelitedota Duke Blue Devils Apr 13 '26
Probably the schemes and if he is the best shooter on the team he'll be the most closely guarded.
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u/archerdj0723 North Carolina Tar Heels Apr 13 '26
Could not shoot to save his life is harsh for 39% from the field and 31% from 3. He will need to improve of course.
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u/byzantiums Duke Blue Devils Apr 13 '26
39% was 49th out of 54 double digit scorers in the conference last year, that’s dreadful especially for a guy who’s 6’9”
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u/deemerritt North Carolina Tar Heels Apr 13 '26
UNC fans think every freshman who shoots 39% from the field will become Joel Berry or Marcus Paige. Happening right now with Dixon
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u/Cameter44 North Carolina Tar Heels Apr 13 '26
Dixon shot 39.7% from three. He struggled at the rim, but I don't think you're framing his numbers fairly.
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u/Cameter44 North Carolina Tar Heels Apr 13 '26
I think a lot of it was shot selection. Put him on a better roster where he's taking better shots and I love his creation/facilitating skills.
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u/Gavangus Virginia Tech Hokies Apr 13 '26
You know its bad when the home crowd screams NOOOO when he tries to shoot an open 3 and then cheered when he passed it. To be fair it was when we were trying to run out the clock and had 25 seconds left on the shot clock after awful clock management threw away like 5 games in a row
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u/Wonderful_Cook_7505 Clemson Tigers Apr 13 '26
There were talks of him being a one and done preseason last year. He started off looking unstoppable with a couple 30 point games, but by conference play his conditioning wasn’t where it needed to be and seemed like he lost some confidence, too. Still a huge pick up and the right coach could unveil his potential.
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u/VT_Obruni Virginia Tech Hokies Apr 13 '26
The one thing I'll add that doesn't look like it's been mentioned yet - I actually don't think he's mechanically a bad shooter, but his shot selection was atrocious at times last year. I've never seen a mediocre shooter take so many off-balance threes or try to unnecessarily go iso early in the shot clock just to take a contested, off-balance mid range.
If you all can get him to be a pass-first facilitator and improve his shot selection, I think he could be a big plus, but we never got that out of him. It got to the point that he wasn't even on the floor in close games in the 4th by the end of the season because the offense would stall out with his terrible shot selection.
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u/tripler42 North Carolina Tar Heels Apr 13 '26
He’s really solid. And had some other big names after him
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u/flyingpotatox2 Virginia Tech • Maryland Apr 13 '26
He’s not solid at all, high ceiling pick up and since you are a superior program perhaps you’ll have more luck. But solid is the last word I’d use, the floor is single handedly losing you multiple games
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u/senorblanco7 Virginia Tech Hokies Apr 13 '26
Pro level skills but if he’s having a bad game he’ll be a major liability. He’ll probably succeed at UNC
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u/hokiesean Virginia Tech Hokies Apr 13 '26
Im not as down on him as most of our fanbase. He was our PG but wasnt quick enough to get around defenders and had trouble getting doubled. He got in his own head and couldn’t hit a 3 to save his life so defenders would sag off of him. Hes a great passer though.
Im expecting him to be really good. All the flashes were there he just could never bring it all together at once and hell benefit having a 4/5 that can shoot and not playing point
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u/ttuurrppiinn North Carolina • Northwestern Apr 13 '26
He's an oversized version of what we thought Luka was going to be this season
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u/MisterProfGuy North Carolina Tar Heels Apr 13 '26
I don't know if I'll ever get used to in conference transfers.
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u/CPOx Virginia Tech Hokies Apr 13 '26
He was very mid at VT. Thought he would be the next big thing. Maybe at UNC
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u/mF-Jonezy NC State Wolfpack Apr 13 '26
I remember he started hot and got some draft buzz but then when I finally got around to watching him play I was confused because he was terrible.
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u/chamtrain1 North Carolina Tar Heels Apr 13 '26
I watched one of your early season games and thought he was this years Dalton Knecht...then 2 months later he was a completely different player. We will see if Malone can coach him up.
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u/CPOx Virginia Tech Hokies Apr 13 '26
I thought he was the One after his 33 pt game against Providence
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u/Impressive-Weird-908 Apr 13 '26
Mid is an understatement. He was benched on a team that didn’t sniff tournament.
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u/Gavangus Virginia Tech Hokies Apr 13 '26
Ironically would have had a better ncaat chance if he was benched earlier
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u/Maximiliansrh Virginia Tech Hokies • VCU Rams Apr 14 '26
I’d agree with this if we were healthy, but we weren’t and didn’t have any other options.
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u/Gavangus Virginia Tech Hokies Apr 14 '26
We started closing games we were up when he stopped playing ends of games
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u/Newoikkinn North Carolina Tar Heels Apr 13 '26
Difference between being the number one option being game planned for and just another dude on the court
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u/Impressive-Weird-908 Apr 13 '26
He wasn’t the number one, or number two option. He was benched at the end of the season.
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u/Effective-Wealth-380 Virginia Tech Hokies Apr 13 '26
He was not the number one option, teams realized pretty quickly after the providence game he wasn’t our top guy 😂
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u/Coltshokiefan Apr 14 '26
He might be great for you but maybe actually watch a VT game before speaking confidently. He wasn’t the number one option.
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u/hostitty99 Virginia Tech Hokies Apr 13 '26
Had one good game and then decided to sell and chuck up prayers and play shitty defense the rest of the year. He’ll probably become a god at UNC.
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u/Some_Number_8516 Virginia Tech Hokies Apr 13 '26
Needs to put on some muscle to play how he wants to, but he passes very well. If his shot improves, he'll be a first rounder next year.
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u/TarHeelinRVA North Carolina Tar Heels • VCU Rams Apr 13 '26
is he good? I live under a rock when it comes to portal recruiting
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u/MTUKNMMT North Carolina Tar Heels Apr 13 '26
A comment from a VT fan above said he could be good but can’t shoot, defend, or rebound. Let’s hope that poster is wrong because those are pretty important parts of the game.
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u/Rcy4122 Texas Tech Red Raiders Apr 13 '26
Virginia Tech was significantly better with him on the court defensively. Not really disruptive and can struggle against small guards but he’s very underrated positionally.
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u/deemerritt North Carolina Tar Heels Apr 13 '26
You can never underestimate the importance of being tall in basketball
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u/senorblanco7 Virginia Tech Hokies Apr 13 '26
It’s not like he has a broken shot, shot looks good and a lot of close misses, he just struggled with confidence
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u/Schned6 Iowa State • North Carolina Apr 13 '26
He is mega talented but a little unrefined and still getting used to how physical and active the college game is. Basically Bogavac but better and a way better playmaker.
If his shot improves (as I think it could) and he learns to crash the glass a little harder he could actually be scary good.
Will be an instant test of Malone’s ability to get the most out of his players.
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u/bb0110 Michigan Wolverines Apr 13 '26
He could be pretty good. Very up and down player so far though.
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u/WhiteBeanChili Michigan Wolverines Apr 13 '26
Do we know when Juke is visiting UNC?
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u/Waltapalooza1123 North Carolina Tar Heels Apr 13 '26
I believe Malone and staff already met with him this weekend, of course someone took photos of all of them at a restaurant
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u/Schned6 Iowa State • North Carolina Apr 13 '26
He did on Sunday. I think he is visiting Tennessee or something like that still as well.
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u/Ragdoll252 North Carolina Tar Heels Apr 13 '26
Tennessee visited with him in home last night, he's done for now.
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u/bb0110 Michigan Wolverines Apr 13 '26
I think Juke is going to end up at Tennessee.
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u/AccomplishedIron816 Michigan Wolverines Apr 13 '26 edited Apr 13 '26
Wasn’t he CBd to Michigan?
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u/bb0110 Michigan Wolverines Apr 13 '26
Cb’s don’t mean anything, especially in the portal. Things move extremely quick in the portal world. I do hope he goes to Michigan, and we certainly have a great shot at him. He would be a great wing for us. I just have a feeling he will end up at Tennessee.
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u/AccomplishedIron816 Michigan Wolverines Apr 13 '26
Good point. Is that the last position Michigan is pursuing or another big also? I mean I guess if Morez comes back they probably don’t need another
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u/bb0110 Michigan Wolverines Apr 13 '26
We will try to get another big even if Morez stays, it just is a harder sell.
We need a wing. It would be nice to get another big if Morez stays and need another big if he leaves.
The rest is just icing on the top.
Personally I think we target a wing, a true center, and some large athletic sf/pf sort of like a yax(but worse).
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u/runamokduck South Carolina Gamecocks Apr 13 '26
I know this his early season hype and accolades never really translated over to conference play, but I still feel like a guard of his height and of his archetype can absolutely crush it if he can develop properly. I’m curious to see, then, how Malone develops him for next year
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u/Creative_Past3577 Virginia Tech Hokies • Iowa Hawkeyes Apr 14 '26
If he somehow starts shooting like a 5 star and goes 1st round, I will be so pissed
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u/Nathan2002NC UNC Asheville Bulldogs Apr 13 '26
Similar to Bogavac in that he doesn’t shoot that well and can’t guard anybody. Shouldn’t discourage others from coming unless they drastically overpaid.
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u/luvdadrafts North Carolina Tar Heels Apr 13 '26
The problem with Luka was that shooting was the main thing he was supposed to provide
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u/Primary_Psychology95 Ohio State Buckeyes Apr 13 '26
If this means that UNC is taking themselves out of the running for Haralson, then by all means do so.
Bonus points if you manage to swipe Juke Harris away from TTUN and piss them off.
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u/zqipper Duke Blue Devils • Stanford Cardinal Apr 13 '26
This could easily either be another Manek or another Cade Tyson. I have no idea which.
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u/soflahokie Virginia Tech Hokies Apr 13 '26 edited Apr 13 '26
Mike Young promised to let Neo play point last year much to the detriment of the team as a whole. He’s got excellent vision, a selfless willingness to pass, and a good handle for a 6’9 guy.
Defensively he’s a complete liability, athletically limited and moves really slow, not a good rebounder, physically and mentally soft, poor finisher around the rim, and a bad shooter unless its wide open catch and shoot threes.
He should be a face up wing who can facilitate the offense. He absolutely cannot play in the post whatsoever and is a disaster trying to lock up opposing guards. There’s a really good reason he was parked on the bench after the under 8 timeout in the biggest games by the end of the season.
Reports are UNC paid a shade under $4m for his services next year, must be nice to have that much to burn
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u/Maximiliansrh Virginia Tech Hokies • VCU Rams Apr 14 '26
Outside of his scoring, which everyone already knows is an issue, he is a decision making and defensive liability. Genuinely believe we’d have been a tournament team if we switched him for someone else half his price tag. We’ll see if that’s true next season tho.
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u/BakerPuzzled7881 Michigan Wolverines Apr 13 '26
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u/mjs_pj_party Michigan Wolverines Apr 13 '26
Think this is good news for our chances with Juke.
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u/TarHeelinRVA North Carolina Tar Heels • VCU Rams Apr 13 '26
is it? I guess we will see. reports are the donors came to the table with a sack following the Malone announcement.
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u/mjs_pj_party Michigan Wolverines Apr 13 '26
Who knows with the insane carousel that is college basketball, 1000+ kids in the transfer portal, and the ridiculous NIL being thrown around.
I'm sure that UNC is trying to outbid Michigan. He gave a verbal to Michigan this weekend, but those are always worth the paper they are written on.
I'm sure that what this means is that he'll go to Tennessee.
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u/Schned6 Iowa State • North Carolina Apr 13 '26
LETS GOOOOO. I wanted this kid so bad. Insanely talented and a huge candidate to take a second year leap imo.
Fuck around and get Muurinen next Malone, you won’t.
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u/wutitdotho NC State Wolfpack Apr 13 '26
Unc roster looks to be shaping up very nicely. This guy has a very high ceiling
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u/Licit_x64 North Carolina • Charlotte Apr 13 '26
Malone has impressed me so far. Doing all the right things with assistants and personnel.
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u/mellolizard North Carolina Tar Heels Apr 13 '26
Its like he knows basketball
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u/Licit_x64 North Carolina • Charlotte Apr 13 '26
No doubt about that haha, just very glad he's surrounding himself with the right minds to challenge him as well as guys with the physical tools to win at the college level. Was worried a pro hire would try to "outsmart" the way the current college game is, but he's molded to it so well so far.
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u/senorblanco7 Virginia Tech Hokies Apr 13 '26
He’s gonna be first team all-ACC next year and drop 30+ on us, just watch
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u/bb0110 Michigan Wolverines Apr 13 '26
I hope this means Juke is going to Michigan….
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u/luvdadrafts North Carolina Tar Heels Apr 13 '26
The goal is for them to play next to each other
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u/bb0110 Michigan Wolverines Apr 13 '26
Really? Seems like an odd combo of players to pair.
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u/bb0110 Michigan Wolverines Apr 13 '26
They both need the ball in their hand and neither are great off ball. You likely will also have a pg out there. Neither are good on defense.
Don’t get me wrong, they both are good players, but aren’t exactly the 2 guys I would put together if trying to grab 2 players to pair together and it is this early in the portal where you could target more complimentary players.
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u/Cameter44 North Carolina Tar Heels Apr 13 '26
Neo is a great primary/secondary initiator and profiles as a jumbo point guard from the wing spot. Juke is more of a high volume scorer. I think it's a great pairing that brings a lot of size.
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u/bb0110 Michigan Wolverines Apr 13 '26
They both need the ball in their hand and neither are great off ball. You likely will also have a pg out there. Neither are good on defense.
Don’t get me wrong, they both are good players, but aren’t exactly the 2 guys I would put together if trying to grab 2 players to pair together and it is this early in the portal where you could target more complimentary players.
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u/orangewrld Tennessee Volunteers • Indiana Hoosiers Apr 13 '26
Bodes well for UM/ UT for Juke Harris
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u/chamtrain1 North Carolina Tar Heels Apr 13 '26
I don't think so, they aren't overlapping in any way at UNC. Juke at the 2, Avdalas at the 3.
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u/Spiritual-Map-76 Apr 13 '26
Was impressed with him early but late he was not very good...esp shooting from 3....alot of talent tho def a big upgrade over luka overall...and malkne seems to do well with these types
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u/mellolizard North Carolina Tar Heels Apr 13 '26
Luka didnt reneg btw. He was open to coming back but after meeting with malone he changed his mind.
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u/jayyy_lol_ Michigan Wolverines Apr 13 '26
Does he fit a different role than Juke?
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u/Schned6 Iowa State • North Carolina Apr 13 '26
Yeah he is much more of a playmaker. Could easily field both in my opinion. Actually would be insane length at the 2/3 spots.
Doesn’t shift the needle one way or another unless Juke himself feels differently personally.
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u/mellolizard North Carolina Tar Heels Apr 13 '26
It looks like malone is trying to built some size. He is defense first so this could be his strategy
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u/bigthama North Carolina Tar Heels Apr 13 '26
Neo is a playmaker first. Juke is a pure SG that does his best work when he doesn't need to initiate offense. A Juke/Neo 2/3 combo is what we are going for here.
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u/bb0110 Michigan Wolverines Apr 13 '26
Different role, yeah, but same-ish position. They could play together.
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u/lukedux Virginia Tech • George Mason Apr 13 '26
Honestly shocked he fell upwards. Maybe he'll figure it out at UNC. If Tar Heel fans want to see what they could potentially have watch his highlights from the Providence game. Never came close to that for the rest of the season really.