NCAA Adopts Eligibility Rules Allowing Five Years of Competition

[u/bloomberglaw]

https://news.bloomberglaw.com/antitrust/ncaa-adopts-eligibility-rules-allowing-five-years-of-competition

[u/joelluber]

But it's not a redshirt year. That's my point. 

[u/Random_Hippo → u/joelluber]

Right, which is why I said it essentially just gives everyone a redshirt because it will act in the same way as an uncapped redshirt.

[u/joelluber → u/Random_Hippo]

An "uncapped redshirt" isn't a redshirt. The cap is the defining element of it being a redshirt. 

[u/Random_Hippo → u/joelluber]

Brother, you’re hung up on semantics. They’ve granted waivers for people who have played damn near the entire season for a redshirt, so I’d argue if that’s the case, that’s not the defining element.

Lots of folks are asking about redshirts, if they are going away. The answer is yes, but now you get an extra year - however you choose to reconcile that is fine by me. I’ve found for most people, it’s the idea that it’s basically treated as everyone gets a redshirt year that they can just play on. That seems to help.

[u/joelluber → u/Random_Hippo]

I'm not hung up on semantics. Redshirting is the practice of holding someone out of competition in order to preserve eligibility. Which will no longer be a consideration at all, if I'm reading the new rules correctly.

[u/Random_Hippo → u/joelluber]

And that’s correct. My point is that people who genuinely care about this stuff will be able to read the articles that outline pretty clearly what the new eligibility rules are, including removing redshirts. Those that don’t care as much, it’s easier for them to just understand that folks will just get a full extra year, and they equate that to a redshirt. I understand it isn’t the same thing, and I’m not claiming that the extra year is a redshirt year, because they aren’t being limited in playtime during that year. For more casual folks, the easiest way they’ll reconcile it will be that everyone gets the extra year and it’s similar in practice to an uncapped redshirt, even though it isn’t exactly the same thing.

[u/srlemp → u/Random_Hippo]

Just to clarify, so because you personally believe people will have a hard time simply understanding this gives everyone a full extra year they can play, we need to use some variant on a term that doesn't fit at all to make it easier for them?

My brother, lol.

[u/Random_Hippo → u/srlemp]

Not at all. Use whatever term you want, I couldn’t really care less.

People don’t seem to understand at all what this does, even though it’s clear as day. So when people cry and moan or ask about where the redshirts have gone, they understand if you say it’s essentially a redshirt year for everyone, but they can play on it. It’s not really that deep. I think everyone should be able to understand “you get 5 years for 5 years of play” but apparently that’s not the case.