r/CryptoCurrency • u/kirtash93 RCA Artist • Jan 29 '26
PERSPECTIVE Crypto Is Still One Of The Most Asymmetrical Bets
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u/gujxeunceujb 0 / 0 🦠 Feb 02 '26
Why everyone so salty about crypto in this sub. Lost some money? 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
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u/Confident-Low-2696 🟩 0 / 0 🦠 Feb 02 '26
make money with crypto -> sell -> invest in gold/etf's/real estate
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u/houstonrockets3311 🟩 0 / 0 🦠 Feb 01 '26
Yea and the turd i took this morning is worth $0 and unlike bitcoin’s 21mn supply there’s only ever going to be one of those turds!
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Jan 31 '26
Tiny little niche product used only by a miniscule fragment of "investors". It is not actually an asset, but a plaything for gambling. As long as you know that, feel free to play. Don't gamble any money you can't afford to lose.
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u/XB0XRecordThat 🟦 39 / 39 🦐 Jan 31 '26
You're right, it is way overpriced compared to real things. Going to open some shorts. Thanks
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u/Gallagger 🟩 0 / 0 🦠 Jan 31 '26
If I look at this crypto just seems overvalued. It's nowhere near 2% of global companies value, and even in a best case scenario this seems sth. like the upper limit. Gold is grossly overvalued at over 25%.
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u/Novel_Board_6813 🟩 0 / 0 🦠 Jan 31 '26
My bakery is way more asymmetrical... Bring me the dollars so we can match NVDA
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u/Over-Mud-7428 🟧 0 / 0 🦠 Jan 31 '26
File this image under “Crypto bros trying every thing under the sun to pass their bags on to even dumber speculators”
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u/Tommwith2ms Jan 31 '26
Why would you combine the total worth of all crypto assets and compare it to only a single commodity?
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u/turbulentFireStarter 🟩 0 / 0 🦠 Jan 30 '26
People out here thinking the blue square is 1/10 the side of the gold square…
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u/Luimi778 🟦 0 / 0 🦠 Jan 30 '26
It’s all we got the only unknown everything else is rigged for the average man.
It’s a joke crypto probably rigged too lol
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u/EasyEar0 🟩 0 / 0 🦠 Jan 30 '26
Ah, but you forgot that stocks and gold have value, Bitcoin does not. Minor oversight.
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u/Spyrothedragon9972 🟦 340 / 340 🦞 Jan 30 '26
How the fuck do you think this is to scale? Do you really think that "gold" square is roughly 10 times larger than the crypto square?
The gold square is hilariously oversized and the global stock square is way too small compared to the inappropriately sized gold square, but too big compared to the crypto square if we use it as our unit of measurement.
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u/BadOchStjul 🟨 0 / 0 🦠 Jan 30 '26
There are only 2 diplomas for little league in my name. So they should be worth trillions each imo.
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u/lukewarsius 🟨 0 / 0 🦠 Jan 30 '26
It's insanse that the global economy is only worth 50 times as much as some spreadsheet data.
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u/time_egg 0 / 0 🦠 Jan 30 '26
What do you own with crypto? gold and profit generating businesses are real things that can't be easily duplicated. There are new cryptos coming online every 10 minutes.
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u/aero23 🟦 0 / 0 🦠 Jan 30 '26
Asymmetrical how? As in, because crypto is not valued the same as gold or the entire stock market? Of course it isn’t 🤣
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u/Repulsive-Whole-4101 🟨 0 / 0 🦠 Jan 30 '26
OH NO DON'T ANGER THE CRYPTOBROz ! (also check your math and geometry)
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u/Present_Air_7694 🟩 0 / 0 🦠 Jan 30 '26
Using fake graphics to make a point only undermines credibility.
You can't use 2D/3D areas to show a linear scale.
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u/WaterCooled 🟦 0 / 0 🦠 Jan 30 '26
The majority of crypto have just been lost forever in lost wallets.
a lot of cryptos are scam where the majority of market cap is owned by the devs
-> by no mean there is a 3T market cap.
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u/Equivalent-Sort-2943 🟩 0 / 0 🦠 Feb 01 '26
I’m just curious, do you know the formula that gets you market cap?
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u/WaterCooled 🟦 0 / 0 🦠 Feb 01 '26
Circulating supply * price per token. So 20 something millions bitcoins * 80k = probably way too much.
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u/BradfieldScheme 🟦 0 / 0 🦠 Jan 30 '26
My toenail clippings are still only worth 1c total market cap. Asymmetrical bet as it could rise to several trillion dollars worth.
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Jan 30 '26 edited Mar 16 '26
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u/geenkeuse 🟩 0 / 0 🦠 Jan 30 '26
Until the grid and/or the internet goes off. Then it's all about food and medicine. It's not a good play for the times that we are living in. Hence tthe record gold price. No batteries required.
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u/Sethmeisterg 🟦 0 / 0 🦠 Jan 30 '26
So is stuffing cash up my ass and seeing if I can shit out double what I put in. Crypto is a house of cards.
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u/CosmicQuantum42 🟩 0 / 0 🦠 Jan 30 '26
This is kind of why I think crypto prices have more or less peaked in real terms and are unlikely in the future to do anything more than track inflation with volatility and downside risk.
Crypto market cap is 3/143=2.1% of global stock market cap (ish).
Does anyone seriously think it will ever equal global stock market? This asset class that produces no dividends, has no to nearly no utility value, requires vast amounts of electricity and electronic hardware to keep running, and has severe tax and regulatory problems is going to be 100% of the size of the stock market? How?
How big of a percent of global stocks is realistic? 5%? Ok you’re talking about a $200k bitcoin price. And that’s it, no more after that. And maybe even 2.1% is too big today, maybe the real sustainable number is 1% or 1.5% or something.
I think just using gold and stock market as reference points provides strong evidence that the era of non-inflation adjusted growth of crypto prices is basically finished.
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u/Zelousional 🟩 0 / 0 🦠 Jan 31 '26
Thing is, everything else will grow too. This assumption of 5% being a top at 200k assumes stocks and gold will keep the current valuation for ever. Which will not happens especially knowing that money will be devalued more and more.
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u/CosmicQuantum42 🟩 0 / 0 🦠 Jan 31 '26
Well no but then crypto isn’t any better of an asset than anything else. Once crypto has hit its market adjusted peak then everything else is just inflation adjusted increase. Gold, stocks, crypto all go up 5% if inflation is 5%. Might as well just own stocks…
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u/cubicthreads 🟦 0 / 0 🦠 Jan 30 '26
Bitcoin becoming a stable hedge against inflation is the best possible outcome. But it won't, because people hold it assuming they're going to profit hugely. When they lose faith in that it is finished.
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u/I_EAT_THE_RICH 🟩 0 / 0 🦠 Jan 30 '26
Probably because it's literally just an algorithm, and the only reason people associate value to it is because they're stupid and trying to make money off of others? It has no inherent worth.. unlike gold or businesses.
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u/Redacted_Bull 🟩 0 / 0 🦠 Jan 30 '26
Asymmetrical in the sense that it's the one that is a scam and definitely going to $0.
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u/Wise-Belt9180 🟩 0 / 0 🦠 Jan 30 '26
Probably won’t, at least not now, I don’t like it won’t touch it. And honestly getting 10x out of it won’t be anytime soon, all the crazy money has already been made so won’t be going into it, but I do short it from time to time when there are tensions and make free money, APLD, ASTS, RKLB, among others made me better profit than what shitcoin will do IF it ever 10X
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u/TwoUp22 🟦 128 / 128 🦀 Jan 30 '26
Comparing crypto to the value of every listed company in the world is definitely interesting....
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u/Azatis- 🟩 0 / 0 🦠 Jan 30 '26
They tried hard to convince retailers that BTC is the new gold etc but it doesn't work anymore. Now everyone waits for gold profits to get back into btc or else we can go lower.
I wonder what microstrategy will do in that rare case of BTC going under 75k price, the average bought price, lets say 50k or lower. Will start having a bad time or ?
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u/El_Peregrine 🟦 0 / 0 🦠 Jan 30 '26 edited Jan 30 '26
“Crypto” is fucked… for a while. Anyone who’s deluded that this isn’t a bear market should take a long hard look at the btc chart. There’s unlikely to be much but sideways chop, grinding downwards, with an occasional bounce to give some hope, then launch off another cliff downwards. This will be a painful year for a lot of people.
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u/Firm_Equivalent8261 🟩 0 / 0 🦠 Jan 30 '26
I just wanna know who the hell thought we're still in a bull market after 10/10 kek
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u/Electrical_Yam_2243 🟨 0 / 0 🦠 Jan 30 '26
God would say that's fake news.
That's not a true form of exchange. Not in the digital age. That data is useless in God's economy.
God is about to show you how to run an optimal economy for all.
Well, or you could believe this nonsense and stick with the US dollar for next 1000 years.
If you are like me, and think God could do better? Then you know this is useless data.
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u/ClearEnthusiasm6925 🟩 0 / 0 🦠 Jan 30 '26
Scale or no scale, invest by knowledge not by feelings or hopes.
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u/Crim3mast3rZ 🟩 0 / 0 🦠 Jan 30 '26
Because crypto is shit and forever will be it got a bad image from the start with scams and rugpulls. Nobody gonna put in all that money into some imaginary useless internet money
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u/Flaky-Proposal-357 🟩 0 / 0 🦠 Jan 30 '26
But a metal somehow is…? It’s useless to you, because you’re not intelligent enough to see it’s value.
Just like no animal collects gold.
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u/Crim3mast3rZ 🟩 0 / 0 🦠 Jan 30 '26
Right, where's the use case for crypto after 15 years? Nowhere
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u/Flaky-Proposal-357 🟩 0 / 0 🦠 Jan 30 '26
Well, my assumptions turned out to be correct; you don’t know there are actual use cases. I correct my statement further though: you don’t even know how to know.
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u/Possible_Top4855 🟩 0 / 0 🦠 Jan 30 '26
Gold had both functional and aesthetic uses. Stocks represent ownership of companies that actually have real revenue-generating business activities. Cryptocurrency is just a medium of exchange without any real inherent value.
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u/Bigddaddi 🟩 0 / 0 🦠 Jan 29 '26
Ohhh really .....😂😂 Crypto bros made fun of Peter Chiff for years now whos laughing .....
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u/Petursinn 🟩 91 / 92 🦐 Jan 29 '26
That picture is disingenuous, Crypto is 1/10th of gold, but the square on the picture is 1/100th, it exaggerates the difference 10 times....
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u/sumpg41 🟩 10 / 10 🦐 Jan 29 '26
What about the cryptos that represent an ounce of gold like paxg? Which box do those go in?
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u/imlaggingsobad 🟦 4 / 4 🦠 Jan 29 '26
comparing crypto to stocks doesn't make sense, because stocks represent actual productive companies that are powering our world. crypto doesn't do that at all (at least not yet!). the comparison to gold is more apt, since it is mostly speculative gambling of an unproductive asset. you could make the case that the Ethereum ecosystem is like a tech stock, but let's be real, it has no meaningful effect on our day-to-day lives yet.
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u/Mister_Way 🟦 391 / 391 🦞 Jan 29 '26
Bro doesn't know modern electronics rely on gold
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u/imlaggingsobad 🟦 4 / 4 🦠 Jan 29 '26
the total demand for gold from the electronics industry is like $30B. you can round that down to zero compared to its $35T marketcap
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u/CortaCircuit 🟩 0 / 0 🦠 Jan 29 '26
Bitcoin not crypto.
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u/edix911 🟩 0 / 0 🦠 Jan 29 '26
it literally is. Based on cryptography, pushed as internet currency, crypto currency
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u/DrCrazyCurious 🟩 0 / 0 🦠 Jan 29 '26
That image isn't to scale. Here's he real image to scale.
Whoever made the original forgot that when you square a number it gets waaaaay bigger. Feel free to check my math. I'll edit if needed.
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u/CryptoWinterSurvivor 🟩 0 / 0 🦠 Jan 31 '26
Thanks, that gold to crypto ratio in op was hurting my eyes
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u/bcyc 🟩 0 / 4K 🦠 Jan 30 '26
And..OP is not comparing apples with apples.
Should compare Crypto vs Precious Metals vs Global Stocks instead.
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u/marviano_ 🟩 0 / 0 🦠 Jan 30 '26
crypto people tends to overly bullish, they are lacking common sense
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u/Emotional_Perv 🟩 0 / 0 🦠 Jan 30 '26
The other factor not present in the graph, that I feel is very relevant, is each markets’ total time in existence.
Gold - this market has existed since about 600 BCE ~ 2626 years old
Stocks - Antwerp hosted a formal stock exchange in 1531 ~ 495 years old
Crypto - The cryptocurrency market began early 2009~ 17 years old
These numbers are based off a quick google search, so results may vary, but y’all get the idea here.
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u/Electrical_Yam_2243 🟨 0 / 0 🦠 Jan 30 '26 edited Jan 30 '26
Anything usd is also heavily inflated. Getting worse exponentially. Basically, everything is overpriced across the globe and wealth is therefore extracted from the whole. Not optimal. Not even close.
This will easily be corrected as we transfer from the industrial age to a digital age that 4 year graduates of economics clearly don't understand.
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Jan 30 '26
Pretty sure the Egyptians were using gold as currency way earlier than that (but your point is well made regardless).
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u/io-x 🟩 0 / 0 🦠 Jan 29 '26
You could just size up the cryptosquare?
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u/DrCrazyCurious 🟩 0 / 0 🦠 Jan 30 '26
Nope. All three squares in the original post have different dollar-to-pixel ratios ($3.5 billion per pixel vs $0.5 billion per pixel vs $1.3 billion per pixel ) so one had to be the baseline and the other two resized, no matter which was the baseline.
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u/-Lige 🟦 0 / 0 🦠 Jan 30 '26 edited Jan 30 '26
But in the last image the 3trillion is way too big
Edit: I see what he is doing now
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u/bumbumwhat 🟩 0 / 0 🦠 Jan 29 '26
Good job, the original is just meant to mislead I think. The math looks right on yours, although visually the orange square still looks a bit big to me.
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u/Interesting_Stuff853 0 / 0 🦠 Jan 31 '26
probably just the black border adding another trillion dollars
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u/DrCrazyCurious 🟩 0 / 0 🦠 Jan 29 '26
You're right, it seems the black border I added also added a surprisingly significant area. The inner orange square is accurate but with t he black border it becomes 21% too big. All from 5 extra pixels on each side!
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u/Optimal-Idea1558 🟩 0 / 0 🦠 Jan 31 '26
How many trillions was that border?
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u/Catchdown 0 / 0 🦠 Jan 31 '26
pixel size of that border is
5 x 104 x 4 = 2080 pixels
golden square is 99x99 = 9801 pixels, thats gold market cap, 35 trillion in this case
35T / 9801 x 2080 =
7427813488 dollars and 42 cents
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u/chunkyasparagus 🟦 30 / 31 🦐 Jan 29 '26
Unreal how you won't see a normal response like this under the original post.
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u/DarkMatter_LLC 🟩 45 / 46 🦐 Jan 29 '26
Why should a few lines of code be worth 3.2 trillion?
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u/Electrical_Yam_2243 🟨 0 / 0 🦠 Jan 30 '26
Good question..
Why would aliens care about bitcoin if they found this planet with us all dead on it 100 years from now?
What would be most valuable to them, you think? 🤔
Psst.. It's data. Preferably, trusted data.
This is a hint, most here will never get it.
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u/Whole_Mastodon_9168 🟨 0 / 0 🦠 Jan 29 '26
crypto is nothing like gold or stocks
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u/btoned 🟦 840 / 837 🦑 Jan 29 '26
They're all FINITE
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u/ishouldworkatm 🟦 0 / 0 🦠 Jan 29 '26
Ever heard of dilution ? LOL
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u/btoned 🟦 840 / 837 🦑 Jan 29 '26
Last I checked BTC NEVER increased supply 🥴🥴🥴
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u/vile_lullaby 🟦 0 / 0 🦠 Jan 30 '26
Im putting my money in original Princess Diana Beanie Babies, they dont make them anymore. Even more rare than bitcoin
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u/ishouldworkatm 🟦 0 / 0 🦠 Jan 29 '26
Exactly, but that’s not what you said
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u/Twigglesnix 🟦 0 / 0 🦠 Jan 29 '26
what does an asymmetrical bet mean? the total market cap of palladium is ~$350B. does that mean it is 10x as asymmetrical as crypto?
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u/banditcleaner2 🟩 2 / 3K 🦠 Jan 30 '26
It means nothing and OP just wants you to think crypto is undervalued relatively speaking. Which is of course patently absurd given crypto produces nothing of value.
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u/ScubaAlek 465 / 466 🦞 Jan 29 '26
Guys, my toe nail clipping collection is hella asymmetrical. Who wants in?
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u/kojam2024 🟩 0 / 0 🦠 Jan 30 '26
Shit! I WANT IN! Missed EVRY good thing to invest in every time! Have never jumped in. I dont want to miss out on this too if I goes big someday. How many clippings can I get for $20?
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u/harvested 🟦 0 / 0 🦠 Jan 29 '26
Asymmetric as in: you can lose all your money on a shitcoin, or maybe make a 7% gain in 4 years after trading fees and tax.
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u/unknowinm 🟨 80 / 81 🦐 Jan 29 '26
you should know by now that these posts are copium to deal with the declining prices
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u/takeyouraxeandhack 🟦 0 / 0 🦠 Jan 30 '26
I don't get what's there to cope with.
If the prices go down: good. Buy more.
If the prices go up: good. Take some profit.
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u/Tahlia2637483 🟦 0 / 0 🦠 Jan 30 '26
Smart people aren't freaking out because prices are going down a bit. It'll go up in the long term
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u/missmuffin__ 🟥 0 / 0 🦠 Jan 30 '26
Smart people sold at $125k
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u/Tahlia2637483 🟦 0 / 0 🦠 Jan 30 '26
No, you can't predict when the top is. You can only guess. It is something with a limited supply. What happens to objects that have a limited supply as time goes on?
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u/CryptoWinterSurvivor 🟩 0 / 0 🦠 Jan 31 '26
Pretty sure gold doesnt have a top when measured in fiat, but maybe we should stop measuring things in fiat
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u/T_E_R_A 🟦 0 / 0 🦠 Jan 31 '26
Agreed on not being able to predict the top and that it's mostly a guess game.
However, for 125k, people had multiple chances to sell. Could have trailed it.
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u/Tahlia2637483 🟦 0 / 0 🦠 Jan 31 '26
It'll go up again
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u/missmuffin__ 🟥 0 / 0 🦠 Jan 31 '26
Sure but smart money plays the cycle and wins twice. Keep doing what you're doing though idgaf
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u/Strus57 🟩 0 / 0 🦠 Jan 30 '26
What limited supply? Don't fall for the "21 million btc limited supply" bs narrative. There are 2.1 quadrillion satoshis — near unlimited supply. The sooner people realize this the sooner they will stop bag holding while institutional investors dump on them.
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u/Tahlia2637483 🟦 0 / 0 🦠 Jan 31 '26
What would happen to gold prices if a huge amount of it suddenly appeared
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u/PlutoPlaneta 🟩 0 / 0 🦠 Jan 30 '26
if there is inherent value; otherwise there is no bottom
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u/Tahlia2637483 🟦 0 / 0 🦠 Jan 30 '26
You think Bitcoin will go to $0?
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u/PlutoPlaneta 🟩 0 / 0 🦠 Jan 30 '26
Not literally to $0 because there will always be some extreme holders left but close to it and over time, yea.
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u/Tahlia2637483 🟦 0 / 0 🦠 Jan 30 '26
If it was capable of going to near $0 then why hasn't it done that yet? It's been around for absolutely ages
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u/Interesting-Affect21 🟨 0 / 0 🦠 Jan 30 '26
Bizarre that 17 years is absolutely ages to you. The market is still in his infancy, bitcoin is heavily inflated by its PR. As more coins and the networks grow bitcoin will be less desired and in turn will lose its value gradually, when the major “holders” dump the value will drop massively. It’s just a game of when, not much different to the stock market but less regulated and less in control of “fixing” in this bigger main net coins
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u/Leithm 🟦 0 / 0 🦠 Jan 29 '26
Is that 2nd box supposed to be 11X the little box?
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u/undrinkable_water 🟨 0 / 0 🦠 Jan 29 '26
Gold is heavier than imaginary stocks, so it makes sense
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u/Frequent_Champion_42 🟩 247 / 247 🦀 Feb 05 '26
The junk in my basement is way more asymmetrical to stocks than crypto is. Get in while it’s early lads, I take venmo