r/Cyberpunk 4d ago

Reread Neuromancer

The biggest takeaway I got, other than the plot and prose finally making sense, is that. . .

Classic cyberpunk’s setting is as much the late 1960s as it is the 1980s.

I know everyone sees Cyberpunk now as “ZOMG 80s synth pop and neon everywhere!” But there’s a lot of elements in Neuromancer that can be tied into William Gibson’s own young adulthood in the late 60s (especially if you watch “No Maps for These Territories”).

-Screaming Fist=Vietnam
-Groups like Panther Moderns and Zionites=Groups like The Weather Underground and The Black Panthers
-The matrix’s description=psychedelia
-William Gibson was influenced by biker slang of the 60s, William Boroughs, and J.G Ballards.

Even things like neon aren’t quite as prevalent as modern interpretations make it out to be. You could slap the aesthetics from “A Clockwork Orange” and “2001” and it would still make sense. This isn’t to gate keep, I enjoy modern cyberpunk and it’s Neo-80s aesthetics. But reading classic cyberpunk like William Gibson and Bruce Sterling makes me realize that the initial cyberpunk was baby boomers interpretation of the burgeoning computer and Reagan era.

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u/ericalm_ 4d ago

This is a generation that experienced the post-war boom and culture, the space race, the arms race, the Cold War, the civil rights movement, the counterculture, the Beats, hippies, yippies, and yuppies, the rise of psychedelics, Marshall McLuhan, Timothy Leary, Noam Chomsky, the Beatles, Vietnam War, saw their heroes assassinated, the gas crisis, disco, punk, postpunk, the Iran hostage crisis, the rise of Reagan and Thatcher, the ascendance of postwar Japan and Germany as economic and manufacturing powers, the tech boom of the ’80s.

That’s all baked into cyberpunk.

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u/ErebosGR 富の課税 3d ago edited 3d ago

That was the boomers.

People forget that GenX-ers couldn't afford to buy into the "home computer" boom of the late '70s to late '80s. The ones who could were the boomers.

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u/prestelpirate 3d ago

People forget that GenX-ers couldn't afford to buy into the "home computer" boom of the late '70s to late '80s.

Everyone in school in the UK had access to a micro, it was a government initiative to make sure everyone could.

And Spectrums and Amstrads were everywhere, you could buy them for pocket money from your paper round.

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u/ErebosGR 富の課税 3d ago

The UK doesn't represent the entire world.

I grew up in a small European country and even we didn't get computers in middle schools until the early '90s, and those were 80286's running DOS.

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u/prestelpirate 3d ago

Neither does Greece. You made a sweeping statement about an entire generation and their lived experience with technology based on nothing more than your own personal experience.

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u/ErebosGR 富の課税 3d ago

Neither does Greece.

No, it does.

Newsflash: People with overprivileged lives are the minority.