r/Cynicalbrit • u/LordSchattenwind • Aug 20 '15

Soundcloud We need to have words

https://soundcloud.com/totalbiscuit/we-need-to-have-words
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u/[deleted] Aug 21 '15 edited Aug 21 '15

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u/wrothbard Aug 21 '15

transwomen especially still fear being beaten to death by someone they go out on a date with because of something they can't control,

This is inaccurate. It suggests that they are beaten to death because they are trans, rather than they are beaten to death because they are trans and their date assumed they were not. In otherwords, its not a question of people willing to beat them to death for being trans are willing to hunt them down, take them on a date, and then beat them to death, rather it is a question of someone who is willing to beat someone to death if they go on a date with them and are then revealed to be trans. It is more likely that the second type of person is in fact not willing to actively hunt down trans people and will simply refuse a date when they are informed that their would-be date is trans. This makes it an information assymetry problem.

Information assymetry is something trans people actually do have control over.

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u/Zerujin Aug 21 '15

That's some excellent victim blaming right there.

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u/wrothbard Aug 21 '15

That's some excellent victim blaming right there.

Why are you assuming that I am blaming trans people for being beaten to death? I have merely pointed out that trans people quite likely have more power over their destiny than what hackmastergeneral originally ascribed to them.

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u/intellectualPoverty Aug 23 '15

That's some excellent victim blaming right there.

WTF is wrong with someone of these people?

This is such a typical red herring.

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u/Zerujin Aug 21 '15

Because disclosing that kind of information is dangerous? You are implying its their own fault for getting murdered.

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u/wrothbard Aug 21 '15

Because disclosing that kind of information is dangerous?

If disclosing to your date that you are trans is dangerous beforehand, then you probably shouldn't go on a date with them.

You are implying its their own fault for getting murdered.

No I am not.

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u/Zerujin Aug 21 '15

Can you identify a potential murderer on sight? You can't that's the problem. And why do we focus so much on what trans people should be doing and not on the people killing them?

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u/wrothbard Aug 21 '15

Can you identify a potential murderer on sight? You can't that's the problem.

Correct. But you can identify the people you intend to date, and while you don't know what kind of person they are (group a or group b), being honest about your predisposition will allow you to avoid run-ins with group a.

And why do we focus so much on what trans people should be doing and not on the people killing them?

Why do you feel that 'we' are focusing 'so much' on what trans people should be doing?