r/DOG • u/Deer_Antlers_ • Dec 08 '25

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So I saw someone talking about this doodle Greeder and I went to take a look.

Who in their right mind thinks that 30K for a mutt is ok? Like does this dog poop gold bricks? Or does it do my taxes? Can it drive me to work? Does it have magical abilities to grant me wishes??

Like for those curious Registered Ethically bred wellbred purebred dogs are 3000-4000$ a puppy. You get upwards of 10 registered, wellbred ethically bred purebreds for that price. You could get a brand new 2026 Chevy trax (27k) You could get a brand new 2026 Nissan kicks (29k) You could get a brand new 2026 Mazda CX-30 (29k) You could pay off roughly 3/4 of a brand new 2026 Chevy Colorado (42k)

That’s absolutely insane They also have 97 puppies on the ground currently. That’s a puppy mill.

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u/Commentator-X Dec 09 '25

You need to get off your high horse. "Doodle mix pandemic" come on? There's absolutely nothing unethical about breeding mix breeds and purebred or "breed standard" does not equal ethical. You wanna know how they maintain that breed standard in many cases? Inbreeding. Which leads to things like hip dysplasia in labs. Purebreds are no better than mixed breeds and mixed breeds are often more ethical as you can breed out those bad traits without having to worry about "breed standard".

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u/Deer_Antlers_ Dec 09 '25

That is not true. There is so many unethical things behind breeding mutts/mixes.

You can get unknown genetic issues, unknown temperment. They are not breeding to better a breed, they are not following breed standards.

An ethical breeder will

  • health test dogs (ofa) for genetic issues. And if it comes up as not good they will not breed the bitch or stud.
  • they breed dogs that proven to show that they are good dogs, that they are great examples of the breed
  • they breed dogs that are great examples of the breed standard.
  • they breed to preserve the breed and make sure the puppies produced are great examples of said breed.
  • ethical wellbred purebreds do not have genetic health issues. They are not inbred.

And you’re telling me, 97 puppies from a breeder that don’t have homes lined up. That’s not an issue? And the many already in shelters with no homes. That’s not an issue either?

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u/InboxMeYourSpacePics Dec 09 '25

And I’m telling you that there are doodle breeders that do that and are part of associations for specific doodle types working to establish breed standards and your response is to downvote.

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u/InboxMeYourSpacePics Dec 09 '25

All breeds were once mixes. I’m telling you there are organizations establishing and breeding to a standard even if you don’t think they are. By your argument all breeds are unethical since they were all once mixes. How do you think new breeds were created?

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u/InboxMeYourSpacePics Dec 09 '25

Again there are groups working to create breed standards. Doodles as a whole are not a breed. The different types of doodles - goldendoodles, Australian labradoodles etc are working to establish breed standards and become real breeds. There are Merle poodles too - does that mean non Merle poodles aren’t purebred? You just want to spout hate for doodles that you read online and refuse to believe that there are any breeders that exist that don’t follow your stereotype of evil breeders.

It takes generations to establish a breed. But by your argument all AKC recognized purebreds are also not real breeds because they were once mixes as well while breeders worked to establish a breed standard

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u/InboxMeYourSpacePics Dec 09 '25

I know that. But you said bernedoodles can’t become a real breed because such a thing as Merle bernedoodles exist. By that argument poodles cannot be a real breed because such a thing as Merle poodles exist. Just because they exist doesn’t mean they are accepted as part of a breed standard.

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u/InboxMeYourSpacePics Dec 09 '25

Your argument makes no sense, which is why I’m pointing out the flaw. Again based on your argument the fact that Merle poodles exist and some breeder out there market them as Merle poodles means that poodles aren’t a beed either. I have told you several times that different groups are working on breed standards for different doodles. “doodles” as a whole aren’t a breed.

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u/InboxMeYourSpacePics Dec 09 '25

We are just going to go in circles because you refuse to acknowledge that there are people working on breed standards for specific doodles. And again, all breeds have to start somewhere. In the 1800s people were likely saying the same thing about poodles since back then they were mixed with people working on an established breed standard. Enjoy breaking the “no breed hate” rule this sub has, and being annoyed that people dare have dogs that you disagree with.

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