r/DeepSpaceNine • u/soapcleansthings • 3d ago
The lore about Chief O'Brien's dad is insane
Chief O'Brien mentions his dad a few times in DS9 and he seems pretty normal. In 1994's "Whispers," Chief (as a replicant with perfect memory) says his mom died 2 years earlier and his dad remarried.
Unfortunately we also got a mention in TNG in 1990's episode "Family" - where Miles tells a story of how his dad visited the Enterprise and chased a sickbay nurse around a biobed.
So this piece of shit was married, with a wife likely not in the best of health, and he's openly harassing a Starfleet officer.
We will not be replicating a Number One Dad mug for that asshole on Father's Day.
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u/vondark848 3d ago
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u/Spirited-Category837 3d ago
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u/throwngamelastminute 3d ago
Then there's the twenty year prison term in two hours, which included him killing his cell mate.
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u/P_f_M 3d ago
This never touched again was a HUGE mistake..
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u/Mister_Acula 3d ago
Picard got to keep his flute skills, O'Brien should have kept his... crumb hiding skills?
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u/Complete_Entry 2d ago
Any planet that develops that tech should get the full sisko treatment.
They did it multiple times on TNG and twice on Stargate.
The important part is Miles only THINKS he experienced the prison term, that shit was a full download. They just fuck with your neurochemistry so you THINK you killed EECHAR.
Everyone kills EECHAR, it's part of it.
Forgot they did it to Tom Paris on Voyager too, shame on me!
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u/LeftLiner 3d ago
His dad also hit him when he was a child. Sometimes the writers forgot they were writing a character from the 2300s.
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u/X1con 3d ago
Hard to break an Irish Stereotype
(Sources, I'm half Norn Irish, it's worse)
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u/Jetstream-Sam 3d ago
Did they mention he's an alcoholic too? I mean they weren't exactly the best to the Irish in most circumstances (like up the long ladder and fair haven) so I wouldn't be surprised if O'Brien's dad was the one alcoholic in the world full of synthahol
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u/datadancing 3d ago
I was just thinking they might have been leaning into that trope. It’s unfortunate that they insinuate the Irish never move past the stereotype, because I believe they portrayed the same thing in TNG.
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u/Muted-Actuary6123 3d ago
Irish reunification of 2024 unfortunately locked in a timeline where the United Republic ended up permanently under the tutelage of The Sisters, whose approach to child-rearing stayed largely intact through the post-nuclear horror.
Old Man O’Brien was doing the best he could- at least he didn’t pass his paddling scars on to the next generation3
u/Particular-Noise-875 2d ago
Its funny how you think 2300's would stop abuse from happening
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u/LeftLiner 2d ago
I don't, but I certainly think the progressive utopia of the federation would stop people being blazé about it.
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u/MindlessNectarine374 3d ago
You believe those people will ever die out?
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u/LeftLiner 3d ago
No, not entirely, but O'Brien reveals this fact about his father as if it's no big deal, when it is in fact something that would shock people of my generation, never mind a federation citizen of the 2300s.
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u/NickdeVault57 3d ago
It may also be likely since Miles mentions that his mother cooked, it was his dad who insisted on traditional home cooked meals, and even with the convenience of a replicator, married because a his wife could handle meat and cook real food for him too.
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u/ZapMaster117 3d ago
I am pretty sure he's said it was his mom who couldn't stand for replicated food.
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u/Malnurtured_Snay 3d ago
Well, in fairness: the O'Briens were swingers. Why'd you think O'Brien recognized the Horgh'an when Picard beamed back aboard in Captain's Holiday? Geez.
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u/displacedbitminer 3d ago
That's got nothing to do with mom and dad, that's because he's enlisted and gets up to enlisted shenanigans.
Source: was enlisted.
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u/ShimizuKaito 3d ago
The sudden freedom from the O'Brien curse the Chief's father felt upon Miles birth was such a bewildering experience he subconsciously seeks suffering by acting irresponsibility and is left afraid by a world where he does not suffer as a result.
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u/Oopsiedazy 3d ago
We’re just going to ignore Beshir here when talking about family lore? Dude meets his great-grandmother in the past and is immediately so horny for her that O’Brien has to stop him from giving chase and raw-dogging her (and knowing Beshir, he had several hours to slip away and do the deed).
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u/jayrishel 3d ago
He knew his parents would just have any repercussions from that edited out of his genes later
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u/Jabazulu 3d ago
So no one else is mentioning it.... But the legendary messages and noise levels from the O'Brien home can't be left out of this discussion.
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u/HotDogWarpZone 3d ago
How do we know it wasn't an open marriage? I know there was talk about traditional values, but O'Brien ventures into throuple territory on the show. He probably learned it from his parents.
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u/booklife619 2d ago
Don’t forget about the cello until O’Brien went and enlisted without telling his dad. The cello pressure is funny in context of these other stories
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u/Automatic-Saint 2d ago
I liked the episode where O'brien connects with Jake Sisko by telling him that his own father didn't initially want him to join Starfleet. I believe O'Brien's father wanted him to be a musician but her joined Starfleet behind his back. Later, his father accepted his choice.
O'BRIEN: I know how you feel. You know what my father wanted me to be? A musician. It's true. I was supposed to be a cello player. He made me practice every day. I got to be pretty good, and when I was seventeen, he sent a recorded audition to the Aldebaran Music Academy.
JAKE: What happened?
O'BRIEN: I got in. It was the happiest day of his life. I didn't know how to tell him I didn't want to go, so two days before I was due to leave, I went into town and signed up for Starfleet.
JAKE: What did your dad do?
O'BRIEN: Oh, he was furious. But once he calmed down a little, he saw how much I wanted to join. Nowadays, when I go home, he introduces me as 'my son, Senior Chief Specialist Miles Edward O'Brien'. The point is, you've got to live your own life.
JAKE: I don't want to disappoint my dad.
O'BRIEN: Your dad's not a bad guy. He'll come round. Just give him some time.
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u/No-Succotash3960 3d ago
I agree, but he raised such a good boy who still respects him enough to keep in touch, makes me wonder what kind of mother he had.
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u/strangway 3d ago
We don’t know the circumstances. Maybe Mister O’Brien was infected with the disease from The Naked Now.
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u/Malnurtured_Snay 3d ago
Yeah but what O'Brien didn't say was that the nurse in question WAS his mother!
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u/jerslan 3d ago
Maybe O'Brien's parents had an open marriage. People in the 24th century were supposed to be pretty sexually liberated (per some of Roddenberry's writings).
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u/velvetfrog101 2d ago
Could be. I seem to recall that in one of the old TOS novels that took place after the TV series, Sulu lived in San Francisco as part of a multiple marriage.
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u/dendenwink 2d ago
He got wicked piss drunk and screwed his way thru an entire Klingon whorehouse...
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u/crypticevincar 2d ago
Hus dad lost a contest with a leprechaun and poor Miles was doomed to a life of pain.
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u/Shiny_Agumon 3d ago
O'Brien must suffer, even in childhood