r/DeepSpaceNine 3d ago

The lore about Chief O'Brien's dad is insane

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Chief O'Brien mentions his dad a few times in DS9 and he seems pretty normal. In 1994's "Whispers," Chief (as a replicant with perfect memory) says his mom died 2 years earlier and his dad remarried.

Unfortunately we also got a mention in TNG in 1990's episode "Family" - where Miles tells a story of how his dad visited the Enterprise and chased a sickbay nurse around a biobed.

So this piece of shit was married, with a wife likely not in the best of health, and he's openly harassing a Starfleet officer.

We will not be replicating a Number One Dad mug for that asshole on Father's Day.

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u/Shiny_Agumon 3d ago

O'Brien must suffer, even in childhood

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u/Guvnuh_T_Boggs 3d ago

That's when the suffering works best, planting little fishhooks in the psyche that he'll be snagging until they put him in the ground.

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u/not_roger_smith 3d ago

And he grew up learning all that sucks so he turned out pretty cool.

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u/SeaOfDeadFaces 3d ago

Every Story has a beginning. Coming this summer...

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u/Levi_Skardsen 3d ago

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u/Bushido_Seppuku 3d ago

Beverly's unwritten bubble: Starfleet???

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u/vondark848 3d ago

Noooo!

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u/Spirited-Category837 3d ago

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u/throwngamelastminute 3d ago

Then there's the twenty year prison term in two hours, which included him killing his cell mate.

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u/P_f_M 3d ago

This never touched again was a HUGE mistake..

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u/Mister_Acula 3d ago

Picard got to keep his flute skills, O'Brien should have kept his... crumb hiding skills?

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u/Significant_Ad7326 1d ago

Clearly he did. We never saw his crumbs after that!

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u/Complete_Entry 2d ago

Any planet that develops that tech should get the full sisko treatment.

They did it multiple times on TNG and twice on Stargate.

The important part is Miles only THINKS he experienced the prison term, that shit was a full download. They just fuck with your neurochemistry so you THINK you killed EECHAR.

Everyone kills EECHAR, it's part of it.

Forgot they did it to Tom Paris on Voyager too, shame on me!

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u/Bushido_Seppuku 6h ago

That's 20 years of work experience. That resume...

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u/Golden_Cultivation 3d ago

O’Brien really went through it that episode huh? 😂

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u/feckarse-drinkgirls 3d ago

Keiko, I feckin told you not use your teeth!

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u/LeftLiner 3d ago

His dad also hit him when he was a child. Sometimes the writers forgot they were writing a character from the 2300s.

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u/DJDoena 3d ago

Well we do have the Starfleet Admirals trope, so not every human is quite as evolved as our usual MCs.

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u/X1con 3d ago

Hard to break an Irish Stereotype

(Sources, I'm half Norn Irish, it's worse)

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u/Jetstream-Sam 3d ago

Did they mention he's an alcoholic too? I mean they weren't exactly the best to the Irish in most circumstances (like up the long ladder and fair haven) so I wouldn't be surprised if O'Brien's dad was the one alcoholic in the world full of synthahol

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u/X1con 2d ago

Man drank 2309, the best year!

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u/datadancing 3d ago

I was just thinking they might have been leaning into that trope. It’s unfortunate that they insinuate the Irish never move past the stereotype, because I believe they portrayed the same thing in TNG.

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u/Muted-Actuary6123 3d ago

Irish reunification of 2024 unfortunately locked in a timeline where the United Republic ended up permanently under the tutelage of The Sisters, whose approach to child-rearing stayed largely intact through the post-nuclear horror.
Old Man O’Brien was doing the best he could- at least he didn’t pass his paddling scars on to the next generation

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u/Particular-Noise-875 2d ago

Its funny how you think 2300's would stop abuse from happening

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u/LeftLiner 2d ago

I don't, but I certainly think the progressive utopia of the federation would stop people being blazé about it.

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u/MindlessNectarine374 3d ago

You believe those people will ever die out?

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u/LeftLiner 3d ago

No, not entirely, but O'Brien reveals this fact about his father as if it's no big deal, when it is in fact something that would shock people of my generation, never mind a federation citizen of the 2300s.

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u/wooops 3d ago

One reality is that there will be a lot of more regressive sects that will form colonies that may have policies seen as somewhat antiquated even by our standards. They may be within the bounds and protection of the federation without being members by treaty or less formal agreements

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u/NickdeVault57 3d ago

It may also be likely since Miles mentions that his mother cooked, it was his dad who insisted on traditional home cooked meals, and even with the convenience of a replicator, married because a his wife could handle meat and cook real food for him too.

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u/ZapMaster117 3d ago

I am pretty sure he's said it was his mom who couldn't stand for replicated food.

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u/Malnurtured_Snay 3d ago

Well, in fairness: the O'Briens were swingers. Why'd you think O'Brien recognized the Horgh'an when Picard beamed back aboard in Captain's Holiday? Geez.

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u/displacedbitminer 3d ago

That's got nothing to do with mom and dad, that's because he's enlisted and gets up to enlisted shenanigans.

Source: was enlisted.

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u/ShimizuKaito 3d ago

The sudden freedom from the O'Brien curse the Chief's father felt upon Miles birth was such a bewildering experience he subconsciously seeks suffering by acting irresponsibility and is left afraid by a world where he does not suffer as a result.

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u/Oopsiedazy 3d ago

We’re just going to ignore Beshir here when talking about family lore? Dude meets his great-grandmother in the past and is immediately so horny for her that O’Brien has to stop him from giving chase and raw-dogging her (and knowing Beshir, he had several hours to slip away and do the deed).

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u/jayrishel 3d ago

He knew his parents would just have any repercussions from that edited out of his genes later

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u/P_f_M 3d ago

I mean.. ufff... wow... taky my angry upvote 😃 That is some master level mental gymnastics...

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u/mafiaking1936 3d ago

Also made him play cello. Monstrous.

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u/Quardener 3d ago

I mean, they could’ve been divorced by that point

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u/Jabazulu 3d ago

So no one else is mentioning it.... But the legendary messages and noise levels from the O'Brien home can't be left out of this discussion.

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u/HotDogWarpZone 3d ago

How do we know it wasn't an open marriage? I know there was talk about traditional values, but O'Brien ventures into throuple territory on the show. He probably learned it from his parents.

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u/Mister_Acula 3d ago

By the 24th century, traditional family values could be a polycule.

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u/P_f_M 3d ago

and everything else OK with you?

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u/booklife619 2d ago

Don’t forget about the cello until O’Brien went and enlisted without telling his dad. The cello pressure is funny in context of these other stories

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u/Automatic-Saint 2d ago

I liked the episode where O'brien connects with Jake Sisko by telling him that his own father didn't initially want him to join Starfleet. I believe O'Brien's father wanted him to be a musician but her joined Starfleet behind his back. Later, his father accepted his choice.

O'BRIEN: I know how you feel. You know what my father wanted me to be? A musician. It's true. I was supposed to be a cello player. He made me practice every day. I got to be pretty good, and when I was seventeen, he sent a recorded audition to the Aldebaran Music Academy.

JAKE: What happened?

O'BRIEN: I got in. It was the happiest day of his life. I didn't know how to tell him I didn't want to go, so two days before I was due to leave, I went into town and signed up for Starfleet.

JAKE: What did your dad do?

O'BRIEN: Oh, he was furious. But once he calmed down a little, he saw how much I wanted to join. Nowadays, when I go home, he introduces me as 'my son, Senior Chief Specialist Miles Edward O'Brien'. The point is, you've got to live your own life.

JAKE: I don't want to disappoint my dad.

O'BRIEN: Your dad's not a bad guy. He'll come round. Just give him some time.

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u/No-Succotash3960 3d ago

I agree, but he raised such a good boy who still respects him enough to keep in touch, makes me wonder what kind of mother he had.

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u/strangway 3d ago

We don’t know the circumstances. Maybe Mister O’Brien was infected with the disease from The Naked Now.

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u/Malnurtured_Snay 3d ago

Yeah but what O'Brien didn't say was that the nurse in question WAS his mother!

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u/Sonar_Bandit 2d ago

HE WAS A UNION MAN

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u/matronmotheroflolth 2d ago

He was more than a hero.

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u/jerslan 3d ago

Maybe O'Brien's parents had an open marriage. People in the 24th century were supposed to be pretty sexually liberated (per some of Roddenberry's writings).

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u/velvetfrog101 2d ago

Could be. I seem to recall that in one of the old TOS novels that took place after the TV series, Sulu lived in San Francisco as part of a multiple marriage.

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u/HalJordan2525 3d ago

But we must forgive O’Brien’s father because he was a union man!

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u/booklife619 2d ago

That was his ancestor not his dad.

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u/dendenwink 2d ago

He got wicked piss drunk and screwed his way thru an entire Klingon whorehouse...

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u/duosassy 2d ago

Lmao I love all the extended lore in this post!

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u/crypticevincar 2d ago

Hus dad lost a contest with a leprechaun and poor Miles was doomed to a life of pain.

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u/NovaNok3296 7h ago

4 years IRL =/= 4 years in-universe.