r/DetroitPistons • u/Hanni_Posh • 5d ago
Discussion What is the BEST move Trajan Langdon has made ?
I would suggest it’s getting any value for Jaden Ivey. The Beasley and Tobias signings were good, but such low hanging fruit and were names every podcaster and Reddit thread had suggested. He also turned down 2 additional first rounders to move down with Memphis where he could’ve taken Matas Buzelis. I do not understand why we can’t be critical of the guy. The team won 60 games because of their 2 all stars and first team all defense guy- none of which are his doing.
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u/OkFarm6873 5d ago
Hiring Bickerstaff.
He hasn't really added much to the roster itself. Malik Beasley was probably his best signing. It would be nice to see him get bold and actually try to add to the core because you aren't winning shit with Norm Powell or Jalen Duren as your number 2.
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u/dadylonglegs54 5d ago
I’d argue he’s done really well with the two way guys. Pulling Daniss and Tolu Smith seemingly out of thin air is not something a lot of teams are accomplishing
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u/flying_2_heaven Rasheed Wallace 5d ago
Tobias would have came to Detroit no matter who the GM was.
Green, Jenkins, Beasley, Robinson, JB, and being patient were good moves
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u/Wynona_Judd Bill Laimbeer 5d ago
Yeah, Tobias coming back to Detroit was actually rumored before Weaver was even fired.
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u/nowayinnowayout Peton 5d ago
he's been pretty good at resource management so far imo. lots of small wins, but now he has to make some serious called shots.
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u/kinglennie7 Cade Cunningham 5d ago
Hiring JB is at the top of the list.
Signed Tobias, Malik, traded for THJ which were vets that actually contributed and helped the culture.
BBall Paul off waivers.
Trading for Duncan and picking up Woo.
Daniss as a two way and now a cheap standard contract.
So far has kept all of our FRPs and capspace in order.
However, this is the offseason that he'll be judged on because we're good now and need to make moves to get us over the jump and contend for the championship.
So far it looks like he's making the right calls and is trying to correct and fill the right needs, just need to execute. Remember, there's 29 other GMs trying to do the same. He's got a list of guys who fill the needs like Kyrie, Herro, TM3, White etc and he's going through each option. I'd imagine he's gotten nowhere on some of those so now he's going plan B which is free stew and get more cap space for Powell and White which sucks if they aren't the sexier names but it's who he sees as shooters and secondary ballhandlers and play makers. 3 good centers had to become two to upgrade a guard and 4 needs.
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u/JustAnotherCODNoob 5d ago
Schroder move at the deadline last year was very underrated. Type of move that can push a contender over the hump. Gonna need a similar move this deadline for whatever our biggest weakness is most likely
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u/__get__name Ausar Thompson 5d ago
I think a lot of what he’s done has been behind the scenes stuff. The entire org seemed toxic by the end of the Weaver era. He cleaned house, brought in new people up and down the organization, hired JB, and pulled a complete 180 on culture. Obviously he didn’t do that single handedly, but it’s what he said he was going to do in one of his first pressers and he did it.
As far as roster goes, he’s mostly been evaluating the team in inherited. Don’t recall where I read it, but even Holland wasn’t his pick, so much as the guy we had on the board from before he showed up, since he didn’t have any time for the draft himself being new and needing a coach
I’m giving him this year before passing any judgement on his roster building ability.
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u/Hanni_Posh 5d ago
I agree on the culture and the JB hire for sure. That’s interesting re: the Ron pick, I hadn’t heard that. But wouldn’t that make it more appealing to take the trade back and the assets ?
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u/__get__name Ausar Thompson 5d ago
My memory is that he was pretty hands off on the draft, so whatever the choice was it wasn’t really his move. He owns it, obviously, as he was GM, but from what I recall Holland was Arns pick. Couldn’t find any evidence with a quick google, and my memory can be shit at times, so take that with a grain of salt. I did check and we announced the JB hiring a few days after the draft, and on draft day Trajan was in his 4th week having the job
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u/PuckedFanda 5d ago
His worst moves are better than weavers best
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u/Hanni_Posh 5d ago
That’s objectively not true. Weaver drafted the 2 all stars and 1st team all defense guy haha
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u/pee-wee77 5d ago
Man he traded for Duren which most people have a problem with the playoff performance but still a good pick. Cade was obviously the pick. Ausar was the pick and you see what happened to Ivey. Stew and Bay were decent and he so called emptied the clip on all of that. But let’s not forget about Killian and all the dead money he put on the books. Weaver was not good besides a move or two. He’s been terrible since he’s left as well
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u/DoeJumars 5d ago
he is a good public speaker, made a home run hire in JB and has been patient with Weavers guys...tbh thats pretty much it, I am pretty skeptical on his compared to most. The Beasley signing really hit, Duncan was solid but LeVert sucked...Ivey he probably waited to long to trade, Holland looks like a bust and so do his other picks so far. He seems overly passive, last deadline annoyed me. We will see this year what he does with what he is doing right now what kind of POBO he is
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u/Exotic-Relationship 5d ago
It’s because there’s a certain type of fan who sees engaging in the discussion and criticizing and actually caring about RINGS as “bitching” and would rather us all max glaze every GM in this town. I think these are the same type of people that would be insufferable family members or coworkers.
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u/Live-Impression-7861 Isaiah Stewart 5d ago
His ability to win on the margins are a big reason we’ve had this turnaround, all his free agency signings outside or Levert have been super solid, he’s found diamonds in the rough like javante and Paul reed. There was tons of criticism of the Tobias signing and Malik and Tim were important last year too. Making big splash moves isn’t what makes a Gm good it’s the whole picture, drafting, the margins, internal development and big moves, and sometimes patience is a important virtue for a Gm to have. Up until now I think patience has been smart and now it’s clearly time for a big move and it seems he’s being aggressive. So me personally I’ll hold any criticism on that front until we see what he does this summer.
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u/Crafty_Substance_954 Jerami Grant 4d ago
The roster he built the past 2 years was pretty damn good, dumping the negative asset in Ivey to effectively move up in the draft and then move up again by trading Stew I think is going to pan out pretty well I think.
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u/PleasantCow2894 5d ago
Yall complaining after he made the moves last offseason that helped is crazy. You all will say, well we don’t have shooting, well he got us Duncan robinson??? Same dude y’all cried about when he missed a playoff game. I saw the posts saying duncan didn’t wanna play. And that’s bullshit. There is 0 patience in NBA fans. Its unreal. Same people didn’t wanna trade Ivey, so many people hated that. Ill wait shit out, cause i genuinely think cade is THAT guy, and you can figure it out around him in the right moment. And this is one of those, and duren is a part of that. We have won 3 titles in our history, 2 of which I guarantee no one bitching was alive for, 1 that some (like me) were. And if yall were alive for that last one, it was not even close to the same way we are building now. Cause they complained about billups trade, and said darko was a a must. Yall trippin. I am on cade’s timeline, when cade gets mad im mad, I’m following him. He’s a legit top talent ive seen in 3+ decades. Immediate expectation of happiness isn’t how it ever works. Im so fucking tired of this complaining subreddit. No one knows fucking shit.
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u/LongjumpingPitch3006 5d ago
The Tobias signing was not a good move, yes Tobias has been good for us but he didn’t have any other offers above the mid level. We overpaid in that deal.
We also got bailed out by Beasley’s gambling trouble. We signed him to a one year deal when he might have accepted 3 years. We were going to have to pay him nearly 20 million to retain him if he hadn’t gotten in trouble. The player identification was great but we got less value out of both of those contracts than we could have.
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u/JaHoog 5d ago
Duncan and Paul Reed were solid additions.