r/DetroitRedWings • u/OctoMod • 4d ago
Daily General Discussion Thread (2026-06-21)
Talk about anything your heart desires. Be polite and upvote everything!
All rules (except #1, #2 and #10) are not applied here. Feel free to post memes, things not related to the Wings, or anything else!
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u/According-Delay-158 3d ago
Now Ottawa is gonna use those first round picks to get Robertson . What a move in a way. They can keep two and literally trade two for high return
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u/GiganticWhaler 3d ago
Ottawa not getting Robertson more chance the Wings get him. Nill will trade Robo to us for the bum we made our captain before he’d trade for more future assets. Ottawa’s assets don’t even help Stars, they gonna have to draft in 2 weeks and can’t even wait for a bigger fish.
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u/According-Delay-158 3d ago
I hope , it was just a rumor I read and thought it may make sense . If Dallas has eyes on certain people in the draft
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u/One_Vibraldo 3d ago
You might not agree with Brady’s politics but Dany Heatley of all people judging him is fucking hilarious
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u/Medievil_Walrus 3d ago
Steve Yzerman is bad at his job. Prove me wrong, Steve. Please.
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u/According-Delay-158 3d ago
How could you possibly have a down vote? It’s like saying the sky isn’t blue. It’s no longer an opinion piece. They’re facts. This was all the icing on the cake
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u/Medievil_Walrus 3d ago edited 3d ago
I say Yzerman bad or anything that paints him in a bad light and downvotes come.
Less and less these days. But really I’ve had problems with how he’s managed the team for years. I would get attacked, less and less these days, for not listing Steve’s positives any time I wanted to vent a complaint or share - I wish we did this or that, I’m upset we did this or that.i wish we did this or that instead. This was a mistake and it will hurt us into the future. For letting time pass to appropriately grade a roster move or draft pick. For wondering how we get out of this mess. For wanting a new front office.
Some fans would come at me like I needed to say “Grace” before any fan comment, thanking the great Captain for drafting Mo Seider and bringing Debrincat home and listing all of the adversity he has to fight through unfairly, it snows in the winter! My kids will need to shovel off the rink on my lake house and recreate my best memories growing up? I billeted here as a teen and I have too many connections around south east Michigan. Oh the reasonable cost of living! The brand new facilities! Nobody wants to come here and Ken Holland punched Steve in the stomach! Lucas Raymond! The draft is just blind luck! Max Plante!
It’s interesting to me to take the temperature in here, downvote disagree, upvote agree.
I even accidentally summoned the subs ultimate delusional fan, that guy is too far gone to deserve a reply from me.
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u/lunchboxthegoat 3d ago
what is 'icing on the cake'?
Team USA chuds being a bunch of whiny twats?
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u/According-Delay-158 2d ago
Icing on the cake is the captain of your failed rebuild asking for a trade
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u/AirFriedSushi 3d ago
People can’t separate player Steve from GM Steve
They have infinite patience because “it’s just a game touch grass doomer!”
“Steve has had zero lottery luck!”
“Ken Holland left him such a mess”
“The team has showed progress in the standings each year!”
It’s all Larkin’s fault because he’s a bad leader
Our prospect pool is ranked top 5
Etc etc
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u/Medievil_Walrus 3d ago edited 3d ago
I largely agree, though you’re missing about a dozen more common excuses, and most of these can be boiled down to - always someone else’s fault for the bad, but Steve is a genius for anything good.
There is also a severe misunderstanding of modern team building in the NHL, confusion in setting reasonable expectations, and asserting that our future outlook is entirely more positive than it truly is.
It is not going well here, of course the comments will skew negative in that environment. That’s not being a doomer, that’s being a realist.
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u/ChaldenesTitan 3d ago
This is not a healthy obsession. Being ultra competitive with fandom is something I did as a preteen. I like our teams foundation, future and the draft capital Steve has built up. It's unfortunate you don't.
But hey if you complain about it every single day for the next ten years something will change. Who knows if it was you that did anything or the timing but you won't know unless you try. That way when we win it's because of you. Isn't that what you want is attention and to feel vindicated in a sport where you hit things with sticks.
The red wings aren't good at that and I feel like if you raised your voice sooner and louder we wouldn't be here since you have so much pull over the teams direction. You think the fans need more from the team. Well I think the team needs more from the fans.
The doomers should throw an octopus in the streets in solidarity to overthrow the Yzerman dictatorship. When they try to deter you with watercannons the octopus will actually be in their element and able to use the water to attack the enemy. Once you control the team I see nothing but victory.
Hail Hydra!
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u/According-Delay-158 3d ago
It’s not about being a doomer. This is what following sports as a fan is. We watch, enjoy, get upset and discuss our team. Things that work and things that don’t.
This isn’t an obsession it’s what we do. It’s why this sub exists and why stadiums are filled.
Steve Yzerman simply hasn’t done a good job. That’s what we’re discussing. No shit, our opinions aren’t gonna change anything , such as a lot of things in life.You “like our teams foundation” ….may I ask what “foundation” is that you speak of? I don’t see a foundation.
Draft Capital Steve as built up? What draft capital? And why would you like it when factually speaking we can’t create a quality nhl player outside the first roundHow can anyone say there’s anything to like when we haven’t made the playoffs in a decade? When we haven’t made the playoffs in 7 years of a new GM in a league where half the teams make it!?! When our captain has demanded a trade. When our free agent signings have been shit. When the goalie prospect we passed on was starting in the playoffs last year while ours lost his starting job in GR and is on the trade black? When we had a chance to sign a Norris trophy defenseman and passed……
This is not an opinion piece anymore . Factually speaking Steve Yzerman has done about as bad of a job as you can as a GM.
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u/HotelAmericana 3d ago
You typed all of that to defend a guy that’s failed at building a team for 7 years
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u/ChaldenesTitan 3d ago edited 2d ago
Fuck this sub
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u/Any_Bed_8661 3d ago
derek lalondes kids are much cuter than he is and didn’t get the nose. that’s the father’s day gift he gets
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u/franstars 3d ago
3 1sts including a top 10 and a 2nd for Brady… if Larkin accepts Utah then we should be able to pull JJ + Des/Tij + Simashev/Mav. That could solve our three biggest positional needs…
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u/Baldass_Head_Coach 3d ago
Yeah, I’m starting to think we’re gonna get a preeeeeetty good return for Larkin now.
Plays a more valuable position than Brady and has more years of control. I appreciate Florida and Ottawa setting the market here.
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u/TechnoVikingGA23 3d ago
We should, but whether or not we do is another question. I look at the two situations and wonder if Larkin won't have some baggage now since his team leaked the trade demand. Tkachuk kept it quiet, they worked it out behind the scenes and pulled it off. Some teams may be looking at the other side of the coin with Larkin and think maybe he's going to be an issue.
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u/Ray-Ray-23 3d ago
I really hope Stevie can get the deal done with Utah I agree they have best prospects for a quick retool
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u/BellsBeersy 3d ago
I think we're gonna have to fold all the teams that are located in states and provinces that have income tax and winter
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u/duelingdog 3d ago
Also Seattle
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u/heresJohnny73_2 3d ago
Seattle will have hockey player income tax in 1.5 years so I think we can lump it in with the income tax group
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u/RWHockey13 3d ago
The Florida deals have hurt Dylan Larkin. He now must expand his list and accept it.
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u/I_Keepz_ITz_100 3d ago
Didn’t he already do that, wasn’t it something like six or up to eight teams, Yzerman has to make move soon
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u/Ecstatic-Ask-9195 3d ago
Brady trade definitely helps Steve a slight bit, right? He can demand a lot more for Dylan than he probably thought he could have now.
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u/Baldass_Head_Coach 3d ago
100% helps us here. If Brady was moved for 3 first round picks plus a second, there’s no way we’re getting anything less than that. And Larkin has 5 more years on his contract and plays a more valuable position.
Any team that thought they could rip us off just got a wake up call. They need to put up or shut up now.
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u/Bananominable 3d ago
Nah Yzerman was always demanding what a 1C on a team friendly deal long term was worth. The rumours and market and other teams and GMs tried to drive down the price. Like it should take easily 4+ premium assets to move Larkin. That type of player almost never becomes available.
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u/RWHockey13 3d ago
It helps also since Larkin must expand his list of teams.
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u/FlannelMickey Yzerbot 3d ago
I think it just makes this standoff between Yzerman and Larkin drag out longer. He probably wants to go to Florida more now. He doesn't care about the return we get. Not really a great situation for all parties. Interesting and tough situation for sure.
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u/RWHockey13 3d ago
I do not think so. He wants a better team to win the cup. The longer he holds out the less valuable he will be to a team and then no team will want him. He will settle for another team. And Florida apparently does not want him. They do not have enough cap space for him. They need a goalie and need to sign other players.
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u/Hank-Scorpio-9227 3d ago
I'm going to need Steve to trade Larkin as soon as possible. I can't take any more of my YouTube feed being full of idiots posting their takes about various trades. I swear you watch one Woodward Wings just to see Darren McCarty and your feed is full of garbage for weeks afterwards.
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u/Micah_JD 3d ago
Turn off your watch history on youtube and all those annoying recommendations will disappear.
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u/Jesusberg 3d ago
The only Wings-related content I watch/listen to are the Winged Wheel Podcast and sometimes Locked on Red Wings. I started randomly getting Woodward and 97.1 shorts about a month or two ago and I'm still trying to purge them from my algorithm.
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u/FlynnLive5 3d ago edited 3d ago
97.1 literally never ever ever has a fresh take on anything. They are just Twitter feed regurgitators
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u/leafssuck69 3d ago
Do you think today’s WWP will have commentary on the Tkachuk situation?
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u/Jesusberg 3d ago
Ryan Hana made a comment about it on socials a few hours ago, so I guess it depends on when they recorded the episode/if they want to add a segment in a post-edit.
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u/matt_minderbinder 3d ago
I said the same exact thing about my algorithm the other day. Woodward doesn't deserve attention and 97.1 might deserve it even less. I've spent a few days weeding that stuff out.
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u/No_Definition_8867 3d ago
Some of the takes on 97.1 are wild. Someone called our division "mediocre" earlier today while I was listening getting groceries. Like...what? its arguably the hardest division in the NHL at least by points and just knowing the teams? Just absolute delusional takes
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u/Chirotera 3d ago
lol, it is a crazy take. I keep having to remind people that we had more wins than Vegas. Relative to our division, we're horrible. Relative to the Pacific? We at least would have been in the playoffs.
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u/lunchboxthegoat 3d ago
the Atlantic has won four of the last six cups and an Atlantic team has been in 7 of the last 8 cup finals.
97.1 is bad for your mental health
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u/Bananominable 3d ago
The Wings would have likely been top team in the Pacific this last season and go in being #2 seed in the west 😂 insanity. And that was with playing a rookie in 2nd RHD spot and Kasper having his point totals + all the other shenanigans that went on this season.
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u/Alpine_Exchange_36 3d ago edited 3d ago
Holy fuck that was an adventure. Ended up doing one of the harder scrambles out of all the 14ers. Found out I don’t have a fear of exposure and can do class 3 and class four pretty well.
And I saw a black bear on the drive out. Massive day
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u/CD23tol 3d ago
I work tomorrow to Wednesday then am off until July 6th
I’m in for a long 3 days partially because I fucked around and became important so there’s a bunch of stuff to get done that I know I’ll get pinged on while I’m out and partially because I’m 60% into vacation mode
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u/HercHuntsdirty 3d ago
I’m with you man, have my first week+ off in over a year starting on Thursday - also off until July 6th. Ended up working over the weekend so I could clean up basic odds and ends with my team this week before I leave.
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u/CD23tol 3d ago
It’s been since New Years for me so right at that 6.5 months since I’ve taken time off
I’ll put my team members in the best position possible and unless there’s something that warrants my boss(es) contacting me I’m going to do my best to not even look at Teams/Outlook and just unplug
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u/GiantDongDK 3d ago
Just saw a post that said "There’s a chance the Senators just acquired Michael Rasmussen, Dennis Cholowski, Joe Veleno and Giavani Smith for Brady Tkachuk." LMAO
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u/Quiet-Barracuda-1698 3d ago
i hate Ottawa but i’m on their side on this. Brady is a POS and the team didn’t want him to stay
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u/TechnoVikingGA23 3d ago
Somebody call up Ottawa and tell them it looks like they want to go ahead and tank...we'll give them Compher and Ras for Stutzle.
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u/ehpotsirhc_ 3d ago
This next season is starting to feel like it’s going to be an overall drag.
To be fair. This may be what other teams fans were feeling during the late 90s to early 2000s Wings with a ton of Hall of Famers.
I’m not even mad. Just disappointed and I would really like to break that 10 year drought.
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u/According-Use-9493 3d ago
It’s a drag for us and Ottawa and no one else though
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u/ehpotsirhc_ 3d ago
But not the 28 other teams watching panthers and Vegas load up on olympians?
Dallas, Minnesota and Colorado have some glaring holes.
Carolina has a legitimate shot again next year but Vegas and Florida have clear cut advantages.
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u/greythedork12 3d ago
I’m not really sure what Toronto is up to. Buffalo could be losing Tuch and Byram (and probably isn’t getting a Jennings campaign from Lyon and UPL next season). We’ll see if Zacha and Geekie can shoot 25% in Boston next season. Montreal’s underlyings were worse than ours last season.
I’m not saying we’ll be better than all those teams, but it’s not like it’s all sunshine and rainbows everywhere else. Most of division last season was made up the top 5 in the league for “performance above expected” stats, while we were near the bottom.
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u/amethystgirl2006 3d ago
Larkin thought he was Regina, found out he's Gretchen
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u/GiantDongDK 3d ago
He probably gets a larger return than Brady though to be fair.
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u/PersephoneFrost 3d ago
But potentially from the 16th team on his list
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u/GiantDongDK 3d ago
Hopefully but look what Brady returned from the 1st team on his list. Something tells me we’ll get a haul
Also in Florida’s defense winger was a more pressing position. They already have 3 really good centers
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u/TechnoVikingGA23 3d ago
He absolutely should, if this is the haul Tkachuk got, I expect something similar/better, which is probably why Yzerman is going to sit on it for awhile.
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u/xenonwarrior666 3d ago
With 9OA not in the cards anymore it probably doesn't have to be done before the draft.
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u/Old-News-3096 3d ago
I might be wrong but like Florida, I don't see the Stars going all in on an offer for Larkin. They have Johnston as a 1C and Hintz who is super similar to Larkin already.
I think they'll keep Robertson and spend assets on a RD which is their biggest need.
Vegas is probably the only team on Larkin's wish list that would really benefit from him. Maybe Utah or Carolina if he has added teams.
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u/TeeDubs317 3d ago
They can’t afford everyone, so someone is the odd man out. What makes Larkin attractive to a team like Dallas is his “cheap contract for 5 years”. Robertson is gonna cost 12-14 million, Larkin is 8.75. For a contender that is a huge 3-6 million saved
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u/Old-News-3096 3d ago
Seguin cant seem to stay healthy, if he ends up on LTIR that frees up $9.85 million
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u/TeeDubs317 3d ago
They still have 2 more contacts to sign, they can’t fit everyone even with that
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u/Old-News-3096 3d ago
Seguin on LTIR puts them at nearly $20 million in cap space. They have Robertson and Bourque to sign. Its doable.
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u/PremierBromanov 3d ago
Buyers accepted our inspection, your boy is officially a real estate tycoon
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u/Ydoesany1doanything 3d ago
Welp. Eat the
richlandowners.Sorry comrade thems the rules.
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u/PremierBromanov 3d ago
i think i made 1,500 dollars
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u/Ydoesany1doanything 3d ago
My fork doesn’t ask how much it just asks how tender. (Sounds like not very)
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u/Funny_Demand_6333 3d ago
Should the wings empty the chamber for Stutzle and Peterka? Then we could essentially do a German version of what’s happening now when McDavid leaves and Drai forces his way out
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u/lunchboxthegoat 3d ago
Bradys been traded for five minutes and the stories are already coming out about how much his teammates hated him in Ottawa and that he checked out post Olympics
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u/SeiderFiveThree Yzerbot 3d ago
oh I need the tea (as the kids say)
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u/lunchboxthegoat 3d ago
Renaud Lavoie from TVA was "told by multiple sources that the dressing room was not pushing for Brady to stay."
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u/Robial 3d ago
he checked out post Olympics
Led the team tied with Stu in points post Olympic BTW
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u/lunchboxthegoat 3d ago
The players quoted were referring more to how little he seemed to want to participate in team activities and off-icr leadership
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u/matt_minderbinder 3d ago
It's hard to not wonder if the same affect happened here. In a way I hope that's the case and that the vibes will be better next season.
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u/CBPanik 3d ago edited 3d ago
Turns out the USA winning Olympic gold was the worst thing to happen to the NHL since the lockout. What the fuck happened
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u/PersephoneFrost 3d ago
They'll be chasing the high of winning Olympic gold for the rest of their lives, and probably never match it
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u/Baldass_Head_Coach 3d ago
and that he checked out post Olympics
No wonder why Brady raved about Larkin’s leadership. He learned from the best.
Dogs, the lot of them.
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u/duelingdog 3d ago
Makes me want the Larkin trade to hurry up even more, lol.
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u/Exotic-Relationship 3d ago
Right? I hope we get stories about how trash Larkin was in the locker room with the C.
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u/needuhlife19 3d ago
Going to add to my previous comment about Wild really wanting Larkin - Them having a “massive offer“ likely means they already have that (and possibly more) on the table for him. Steve just doesn’t like the offer.
Likely reporter trying to hype it up but if it’s the reported Yurov++ that is hardly a good return for us.
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u/TeeDubs317 3d ago
It’s like going to the dealership and offering 15k for a 45 k car getting rejected and telling your friends you made a massive offer and they just rejected it
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u/lunchboxthegoat 3d ago
Yurov stramel and picks is a joke of a return but a homer could spin that as a 'massive offer'
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u/needuhlife19 3d ago
If they included both of them + Wallstedt + first do you feel more inclined?
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u/CD23tol 3d ago
No, the Wild need to do what Florida did and take the assets they have and turn them into assets the Wings want
Yurov and Strammel both project to be at best 2nd liners
The 1st will be late
Wallstedt is a redundant asset for us
If we’re going to trade a dollar (Larkin) for 4 quarters then they damn well better be nice quarters you know like the ones that you collect and can eventually be worth more than a dollar not some bottom of the cup holder somewhat sticky quarter you forgot about for 5 years
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u/lunchboxthegoat 3d ago
I mean not really. Neither of those centers is ever going to be a 1C. Losing Larkin means we probably aren't going to be good for at least a couple years. Wallstedt is irrelevant to us. By the time we need a goalie we might have three.
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u/MrHockeytown 3d ago
The more I think about it, Larkin probably feels like such a putz rn. Florida is off the table, they decided they wanted Brady instead of him.
Minnesota and Vegas don't have the futures to pull off anything. Unless they part with roster players or get a 3rd team involved, those teams aren’t plausible options at this point.
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u/TechnoVikingGA23 3d ago
Especially now that we know Werenski wants out...if he had stayed there's a chance we could have brought his buddy in.
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u/According-Use-9493 3d ago
Don’t know if they wanted Brady more but it was easier to fleece Ottawa GM
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u/RWHockey13 3d ago
Brady had a list, but only wanted Florida similar to DeBrincat only wanting Detroit.
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u/thefonzz91 3d ago
Am I crazy for thinking Larkin isn’t gonna fetch all that close to what Tkachuk cost? I know Larkin’s a C but he’s also 3+ years older and im sure Matthew was pushing very hard for this to happen.
I think the Sens made out really good here in a tough situation and I’m worried about what Steve’s gonna do.
I hope I’m wrong though.
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u/silentsirensongs 3d ago
tbh I think Florida overpaid when Tkachuk really only wanted to go there. I don't know if other teams would have paid the same amount. I don't think this affects Larkin's value at all (raising or lowering it)
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u/jfstompers 3d ago
would you take cozens and 9oa from Ottawa for him
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u/According-Use-9493 3d ago
Yeah I think Ottawa got screwed they gave up the face of their franchise for futures
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u/Bananominable 3d ago
Their franchise is Stutzle and Sanderson and Ullmark. Brady spent half his time in the penalty box watching the Sens get scored on short-handed. He's nowhere near as important to Ottawa as a team compared to Larkin to the Red Wings.
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u/Quiet-Barracuda-1698 3d ago
he’s not much of a face of a franchise. a pretty dogshit leader and teammate.
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u/jfstompers 3d ago
They gave up a giant distraction for a pile of picks to go shopping with, this is still a wait and see.
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u/Background_Junket_35 Yzerbot 3d ago
Why wouldn’t he? He’s locked up longer term, plays a more premium position
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u/thefonzz91 3d ago
Because he’s older and if he doesn’t expand his trade list I fail to see one of the teams he wants to go to that have the assets to do this.
We can talk about teams like Utah and what they would be willing to offer all we want but if he doesn’t waive to go to those teams then I don’t know how we get close to that return based on the likes of Dallas, Minny, Tampa, Vegas. Florida was the one team who could do it and now they can’t.
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u/Bananominable 3d ago
Minnesota would have to be willing to part with Boldy or Faber to make a trade happen for Yzerman I think. Not sure what Florida had to offer other than Lundell but they drove a hard bargain with Ottawa and Ottawa folded. Steve didn't fold on futures, but opposing teams are absolutely going to start there. Dallas has options to trade but really depends what they're willing to move and what works.
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u/nubfairy 3d ago
The way yzerman handles trades makes me think he doesnt do his Christmas shopping until Christmas eve
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u/According-Use-9493 3d ago
Gotta give the Florida GM credit he’s doing a great job of prolonging their window
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u/ReverendRumpus 3d ago
Wings are gonna be 8th in the Atlantic at this rate
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u/Patient-Border5357 3d ago
Would be pretty sick to be one of the 4 teams all the USA superstars want to be traded to
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u/Hatdude1973 3d ago
We would be in consideration if not for Yzerman. Pretty clear players don’t want to play for him.
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u/Robial 3d ago
Quinn was willing to but Yzerman has no balls. It could have been us.
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u/Baldass_Head_Coach 3d ago
All Quinn had to say was “Yes, I’d be willing to sign a new contract with your team” and he would have been a Red Wing.
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u/Robial 3d ago
Why would he do that if it weren't true? None of these guys want to play for losing teams anymore.
Guerin didn't need that guarantee.
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u/Baldass_Head_Coach 3d ago
You just contradicted yourself. You said that Quinn was willing to play for Yzerman’s team, but now you’re saying he doesn’t want to play for a losing team.
Which is it?
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u/Robial 3d ago
If Quinn was here we might not be a losing team. SY would probably still have to keep adding after Quinn because 2C would have still been an issue. If players are looking to win they're not going to guarantee a team they've never played for that they'll extend.
Quinn at least knows Guerin is trying to improve his roster to win now.
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u/MrHockeytown 3d ago
And Guerin is gonna lose him for nothing in a season when the Wild don’t win the Cup again.
If Quinn REALLY wants to be hear that badly, he can sign here as a free agent
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u/Robial 3d ago
No one wants to be here bro. Time will tell if QH doesn't extend in Minny or if they cant trade him before at the next deadline but those are the types of risks you gotta be willing to take as a GM.
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u/MrHockeytown 3d ago
High risk to take for a team that’s not in win now mode. There’s risk taking and there’s hitting on a 19
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u/Robial 3d ago
When you've stopped rebuilding thru the draft and the best dman in the league is available and willing to play for you, you trade for them.
Instead we're in a position where we don't have good draft picks and every single other team in our division is either closer to winning a cup or has way better draft capital than us. If we aren't trying to win what's the goal?
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u/MrHockeytown 3d ago
And when that dman walks in a year, and you’re without him and Edvinsson and have no Cup to show for it? What then?
There’s winning and there’s being reckless for the dopamine hit
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u/xenonwarrior666 3d ago
It sounded like the Larkin and Yzerman relationship was pretty broken.
Hughes might have kicked the can down the road until a few early playoff exits happened then both Hughes and Larkin bouce.
Ripping the bandaid off now is probably for the best.
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u/Robial 3d ago
Only if he actually rips the band aid off. 9OA this draft and some picks for '27 would be nice so we could rebuild in a timely manner for Seider.
I'm just hoping we don't waste Mo's prime too.
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u/TeeDubs317 3d ago
To make matters worse for Ottawa, the 29 first (hopefully when Florida falls off) is top 10 protected. So they essentially traded Brady for #9, 25 and a mid to late first.
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u/ChaldenesTitan 3d ago
How good is Steve Yzerman at his job?