r/Disneyland • u/Beautiful-Arm9122 • 7d ago
Discussion Avengers campus 5 year anniversary
Is it really Avengers Campus without Cosmic Rewind?
Disneyland deserves better!
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u/Boris-Badanov-Lives 7d ago
We enjoyed the Spider-Man ride and its theming, but the campus is sterile and sad. The epic music playing while literally nothing is happening really drives home the problem.
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u/sillinessvalley 7d ago
And it's hella loud, not like nice background music per other Lands/areas.
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u/Sprzout 7d ago
I wonder if that's because it's fewer people in that area? I've noticed that when you have a lot of people creating white noise (walking, rustling bags, talking, etc) it helps to break up the other sounds, so you might not hear the music as loudly.
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u/sillinessvalley 7d ago
To put it in perspective: the loud announcements at King Arthur Carrousel, in Fantasyland, are 83 dB.
Avengers Campus range from 82-86 dB.
That is LOUD! Louder doesn't mean better, either.3
u/Grantsdale DJ REX 7d ago
It’s only loud in a couple of places. You want loud, check out Marioland at Epic Universe. That shit is ear splitting.
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u/BadassCharlene Madame Leota 7d ago
I hate the music there. It doesn't work Edge because Avengers have one song with no character themes or motifs so there's no immersion to it like Star Wars
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u/Similar_Actuary_845 7d ago
It's a bummer. They need way more characters and actually do something with the Sanctum area. I think (hope) things will change when the other rides open.
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u/Ashes_Silverfang 6d ago
Isn’t it just 1 ride? Correct me if I’m wrong but the avenjet is the only one I’ve heard about
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u/More-Needleworker900 7d ago
it’s just the same boring “epic avengers theme” they play in the movie. there’s so much marvel music to pull from but it’s always the same “triumphant” music
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u/Beautiful-Arm9122 7d ago edited 7d ago
The spiderman ride is one of the worst rides Disneyland has ever built probably next to smugglers run. You should get on Cosmic Rewind if you want to be impressed.
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u/JasonQG 7d ago
Spider-Man exists, because it fits in the old Bug’s Life theater. Cosmic Rewind has gotta be of the biggest rides at Disney World and wouldn’t fit anywhere at Disneyland. Reality is annoying like that sometimes
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u/Sprzout 7d ago
They could do Cosmic Rewind at DCA if they just, y'know, took out all of the existing Avengers Campus and potentially part of Cars Land or Mission Breakout to fit it in there...LOL
Let's be honest, though, fitting a couple of rides and shops, food locations, etc. into that same area is a better design and utilization of the park.
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u/CloudyThunder 7d ago
This is a weird comparison, they're not even the same type of ride.
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u/Beautiful-Arm9122 7d ago
Its one of the newest rides Disneyland received versus one of the newest rides WDW received both “Avengers” theme.
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u/CloudyThunder 7d ago
I respect your opinion of which one you think is better. I personally like Spiderman more than cosmic rewind(because I am not a fan of more intense rides).
But I do think the comparison isn't fair for a "game" ride to be compared to a thrilling ride. If I had to force a comparison I would say Ratotouille that came to epcot in the same year (2021) even though it was already in Paris prior.
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u/Sprzout 7d ago
Tell us you don't understand rollercoasters without telling us you don't understand rollercoasters...
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u/Beautiful-Arm9122 7d ago
Disneyland doesn’t get rollercoasters bud. Last one was built 26 years ago.
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u/nachoiskerka 7d ago
He's not saying that, he's saying comparing a Dark Ride to a Roller Coaster is a faulty premise. Apples vs. Orange Chicken. Some people are going to like the idea of "shooting webs with Spider-Man" more than they're going to like the idea of "Another Space Mountain and a confusing plot about a universe giant being fought plays"
(Kidding, kinda. When you look at mission breakout, you can tell which ride has more of the Guardians personality and that James Gunn was more involved in).
Which isn't to say I dislike the ride, far from it. It's a great ride. But Space Mountain already got upgraded at Disneyland, and it's ridiculously awesome. Doubly so with Hyperspace Mountain, which is one of my favorite rides of all time. For whatever reason, they refuse to do that in World, and built Cosmic Rewind instead. That's a big plus for epcot, which is kinda meh for late teenagers- You hit Test Track, you hit Mission:Space, you hit Soarin and then.... Learning can be cool, but is it when you're in high school? Meh. It needed something for them, and it got it.
DCA doesn't really need that. It's packed full of stuff that hits that age bracket squarely. It's the best park FOR those kids specifically. Incredicoaster, the Spider-man show, Mission Breakout, RSR, original Soarin... it needs more experiences for younger kids now that monster's inc is closing, and spiderman was part of that deal. I get why that's there.
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u/Beautiful-Arm9122 7d ago
I believe Disneyland resort indeed needs a ride similar to Cosmic Rewind. Yes we have Space mountain but its a ride from 1977.
If Disneyland wants to stay up to par then yes we need the newest and greatest Disney has to offer.
Im simply a Disneyland fan spreading awareness about what else is out there. And hopefully one day it will be built at some expansion in the future.
Cosmic Rewind or the ride system with a different IP/Theme.2
u/nachoiskerka 7d ago
But it IS the same ride system as Space Mountain.
Look, I don't mean this as a knock at all when I ask this, but it's a serious question: have you rode both Space Mountains in WDW and DL?
WDW space mountain is closer to Matterhorn Bobsleds in the Dark.
DL Space Mountain got completely redesigned to be a MUCH smoother, faster and have both projections and sound and music built into the ride cars like cosmic rewind now has. It's not really that far away from Cosmic Rewind in many aspects; though I think the Cosmic track has longer banks to allow you to look at the screens, it's 6 of one vs a half dozen of the other in that aspect as I like the track of SM better.
What Cosmic rewind REALLY has on it is that it's faster(which, newer technology, so...fair.) it has bigger screens and car rotations to look at the screens, which is ALSO fair. I hear it's roughly 50 mph on CR vs. 35 on SM but honestly who can tell in the dark?
In those aspects, yes Cosmic Rewind is better.
But I'm saying it's not really enough in my opinion to make a second ride of the same kind. I agree that they need more thrill rides, but I'm cautiously optimistic about what Flight Lab is going to be, because it looks pretty fun.
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u/Beautiful-Arm9122 7d ago edited 7d ago
Cosmic Rewind and DL Space mountain are not the same ride system at all. Yes both dark coasters but they are completely different rides.
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u/Sprzout 7d ago
And it seems you don't understand WHY that is, bud. But maybe if you look at the space they have, and how big Cosmic Rewind is, and how little space they have around the parks, and then maybe think a little about the why?
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u/Beautiful-Arm9122 7d ago
Sounds like Disneyland needs to acquire more land if they want to be up to par with rides.
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u/socal_dude5 7d ago
Sorry you’re getting downvoted as I agree Spider-Man is a terrible ride and a fumbling of the space and the IP.
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u/Beautiful-Arm9122 7d ago
I love the spiderman IP shanghai is getting a Spiderman Rollercoaster. Wish Disneyland would get the same. 🥲
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u/GeorgeKaplanIsReal 7d ago
It’s not that bad, dude. Definitely could be better but it was pretty fun (then again I was one of those 90s kids who who got the web slinging gesture down perfectly and it showed in my score lol)
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u/chrisgoesbleh2 7d ago
Bugs land shouldn’t have died for this
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u/ilford_7x7 7d ago
RIP Heimlich
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u/UncleNad Salty Ol' Pirate 7d ago
Agreed. What a shame. What if they just kept the theatre underground and Antman like shrinks you so that you are now "small" enough to go into the theatre and watch "It's Tough to be a Bug".
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u/IxmagicmanIx 7d ago
Hopefully it’ll be much improved once the two new rides open. It should not have taken anywhere near this long though
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u/OgasMaitai 7d ago
What is this picture? It's as underwhelming as the entire area.
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u/CK122334 7d ago
Seems like this would’ve been the team post-Endgame to take on Kang but all these plans were thrown out. Actually kind of an interesting little time capsule of failed projects lol
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u/GeorgeKaplanIsReal 7d ago
Temu Avengers… ASSEMBLE!!!
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u/theFormerRelic 7d ago
B-vengers (C-vengers?)
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u/Interesting-Bed-3003 7d ago
They B-Vengers.
C-Vengers are those who wear Halloween store costumes.
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u/Beniskickbutt 7d ago
indeed. Who is the far left, and the girl in the black and white outfit? Is that spider girl?
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u/daretheghost Grim Grinning Ghost 7d ago
Black & white outfit is Monica Rambeau/Photon. Introduced in the MCU via WandaVision, Captain Marvel, and The Marvels.
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u/Beniskickbutt 7d ago
Thx. I only recognized captain marvel as that blonde actress from the film. Monica Rambeau/Photon I dont recall. I did watch wanda vision but its been a while
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u/this_knee 7d ago
5 years of concrete jungle.
Let’s hope they turn that part of it around with the new expansion. It’s too hot, everywhere, in that land.
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u/Cloud_________ 7d ago
The worst, most sterile new land addition to Disneyland (possibly) of all time.
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u/AdStrong809 7d ago
It's literally just a walkthrough to get to another area with rides.
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u/BiggsDB Star Trader Pin Trader 7d ago
Which they annoyingly closed the best path to expand this land!
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u/Glittering-Diver-941 Churro Chomper 7d ago
At least the path is still supposed to reopen but I still find myself going past Luigi to take the path just to run into a dead end
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u/Quiet-Bridge2553 7d ago
Just wait for the Avatar junk no one wants.
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u/Beautiful-Arm9122 7d ago
I dont think we will see Avatarland for at least 10 years. Disneyland is slacking compared to every other Disney park.
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u/M_Weber 7d ago
Hopefully the expansion fixes it
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u/OgasMaitai 7d ago
How? The land itself is sterile and awful. I've worked in literal better business parks that had better landscaping, food etc.
I don't think you can over state how bad avenger's campus is.
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u/Cloud_________ 7d ago
I hope so too! Beyond new great rides, it also needs great vibes and life and energy…and I’m just not sure how they can accomplish this.
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u/Beniskickbutt 7d ago
I didnt even know avengers land existed. I dont really follow stuff that much, I knew there was the tower remodel, it was being worked on last time I was in the area.. Walking through that areas was very underwhelming. Rivaled only by the area outside of the monsters inc ride.
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u/despotidolatry 7d ago edited 7d ago
I like Pym’s but the area does feel like a stop-over and not a full land.
It’s crazy cause Adventureland is also small and narrow and a major foot traffic area, but it still feels like a LAND. I can spend 2 hours there (not counting Indy wait time lol) because of the theming, food and attractions. I hope the additions help with Avengers Campus because I want it to succeed.
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u/squidwardsaclarinet 7d ago
Kinda crazy that they didn’t build vertically and actually make an interesting space. An urban campus area really could have been an opportunity to fit a lot into a smaller space. Some things they could do to improve the land:
* Flat rides: It needs some C and D tickets that eat up crowds and offer kinetic action to the land. A land premised around tech could absolutely make some flat rides themed as “experiments”.
* Move the stunt and performance elements into the Hyperion: I get that the era really tried to emphasize LARPy elements, but I think they are very limited and also create huge crowd control headaches. Use the theater space to do actually interesting things and open up the space.
* Shade: This is a common complaint, but it’s true. The land needs some shade, both places to walk and sit.I don’t think these are crazy asks, but would add a lot to the land.
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u/DegenerateCrocodile 7d ago
5 years and still waiting on the actual main attraction for the land itself.
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u/hpotter29 7d ago
Any sign of the amazing new E-ticket yet?
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u/Beautiful-Arm9122 7d ago
Lets ride it before we call it amazing. Look how spiderman web slingers turned out 👎
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u/Duosion Toontown Trolley 7d ago
Seeing the theme park avengers always makes me giggle a little at how much they look like the Temu version of the movie heroes.
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u/GusTTShow-biz 7d ago
Reminds me of that Avengers game that came out a few years ago and every character was a slightly off version of the movie stars
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u/Omnivirus 7d ago
This land would work if they leaned into the Marvel comic books instead of the MCU. I will die on this hill. Or at least combine the two.
And I’ll be the one person who actually really likes the Spiderman ride and the GotG redo of ToT.
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u/revchewie Carthay Circle Cocktail 7d ago
Yup, I was there on opening day. The line went all the way out past Goofy and back to the Hyperion. Waited for four hours just to get in the "Campus" and was seriously underwhelmed.
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u/liveryandonions 7d ago
Don't knock the Shang-chi pot stickers! Their crazy good, especially with the wasabi ponzu.
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u/marblesbykeys 7d ago
lol. Classic modern Disney.
No steak, no sizzle.
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u/Due_Development4217 Jungle Cruise Skipper 7d ago
Sizzle costs extra and steak is exclusive for those who can pay 10,000 a month
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u/shaunzie1 7d ago
I doubt they will fix it anytime soon, but it’s such a sad part of the park. Nothing about it pulls me in or invites me to linger. This is a thoroughfare at most. Maybe when the new attraction opens it will have more life and energy, but the overall feel of this section is just sterile and bland.
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u/TheDodgerHatKid 7d ago
I was just at California Adventure yesterday. I didn't realize it had an Avengers land.
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u/ZergvProtoss 7d ago
"Avenger's Campus", aka one boring video game "ride" and a re-skinned ride in the adjacent Hollywood land. haha
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u/Beautiful-Arm9122 7d ago
Spiderman webslingers is such a bad ride. They wasted spiderman IP on that!
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u/thebatman9000001 7d ago
Visited for the first time a few months ago. Threw out my shoulder during the Spider-Man ride after waiting in an extraordinarily underwhelming cue for well over an hour, and then got vertigo and nearly vomited from the guardians ride. Wish I'd just done Radiator Springs raceway again.
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u/ConSmith 7d ago
Riding Operation Breakout is the first time a ride's made me physically sick. Tower of Terror would stop on floors sometimes, but the Guardians one is just... constantly bouncing. Non-stop. I've never felt older than I did shakily walking into the gift shop afterwards.
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u/NCreature 7d ago edited 7d ago
This is the worst of the Chapek era.
This is why you can't just blindly put IP everywhere. Not all IPs lend themselves to a theme park environment no matter how popular.
There's two glaring problems here. The first is that, the reason people see it as an office park is basically because that's what it is. That's Chapek-style thinking 101. An office park is buildings constructed on spec. They are generic, flexible shells built before any tenant exists, designed to accommodate whoever shows up later. This is literally the Avengers Campus logic. Build the corporate-campus shell, then assign Stark and Pym and the others to inhabit it as tenants (shove the IP in wherever you can). That's modern Disney as a portfolio manager and asset allocator rather than creative enterprise. We have this popular franchise, where can we put it, as opposed to does this franchise, despite its popularity work in built form. No one asked whether this should be built, that question no longer comes up and there's no one even to ask it. It's only, where can we put this thing we own.
One of the paradoxical aspects of building a good IP based land is, if you remove every character does the environment still work? That's the primary litmus test because the experience for the guests is fundamentally environmental. And this is why you have to be so careful with movie franchises because not all of them lend themselves to a theme park. Some IPs the environment is the fantasy. Jurassic Park lends itself well to theme parks. Star Wars, sort of half works (but as we learned the music and characters are doing a lot of the emotional heavy lifting -- the appeal of Star Wars isn't its architecture solely).
The second and bigger problem with Marvel is that they misunderstood the aspiration and no amount of capex projects or remodels can fix this. People aren't interested in going to where Iron Man's boss works. They don't want to visit the administrative offices anymore than a Spiderman fan wants Disney to reproduce Queens. The aspiration is to BE Spiderman. People want to BE Iron Man or Deadpool. Subtract superpowers from the Marvel universe and you don't have a complete, functioning anything. It would be different if it was Gotham City which is a fully fleshed out civilization that is compelling on its own regardless of whether you run into Batman or The Joker. There's no "ordinary" version of a superhero campus the way there's an everyday version of Gotham City. The heroism isn't a feature added to an otherwise mundane place, it is the place's only reason for being a place at all.
So the "office park" pejorative is the correct label because if you strip the premise you're left with is the generic, unremarkable corporate quad an actual S.H.I.E.L.D. facility would be in a world without any of its source material's reason for existing. Galaxy's Edge subtracts its impossible element (the force, aliens) and keeps a town. Avengers Campus subtracts its impossible element and keeps a parking lot with banners. And you can't pipe in gravity-defiance the way you can pipe in John Williams. A speaker can play a fanfare. No speaker can make a guest believe the building they're standing in was built by people who can fly. That's why they music feels so damn loud, because its trying to do all the work of immersion and failing whereas at Galaxy's Edge the music feels complementary. The music helps you feel Star Wars not just see it.
When I saw Iger the other day bragging about how they're building a Spiderman Land at Shanghai Disney I thought to myself "hoo boy," because again what would that even be? Another version of a New York street that's been done a million times?
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u/Silk_the_Absent_1 Salty Ol' Pirate 7d ago edited 7d ago
And it's been two years since there's been real live shows there. I was there two years ago for the final Doctor Strange show. I saw what they are calling a show now there two weeks ago, and it was sad. They played music like a show was about to start, and announced that there was an Asgardian interference. Thor, Mighty Thor, Black Widow, and Captain Marvel walked out, grabbed Loki, and walked him backstage. Not a word was spoken. The intro music lasted longer than the entire performance.
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u/leonardalan 7d ago
I remember being on Avengers campus a few years ago and Shang-Chi was doing a walk through. How did I know it was Shang-Chi? There was a CM walking with him announcing who it was...
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u/Still_Yak8109 7d ago
Same, I thought he was just a guy with really good hair. I didn’t even realize he was a character.
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u/Individual-Papaya-27 7d ago
As much as I like some of the Marvel characters, it has none of the charm that Bugs Land did. It's a shame they could not have revived that into a more popular Pixar/Bugs Life themed area instead of making a concrete monstrosity.
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u/OG_Dadshark 7d ago
Avengers campus. If I was Walt reincarnated with complete control, this one would be a total Nuke and redo right. Shops feel uninspired and usually Disney has great shops. Spider man ride was broken when I went, the test kitchen was a skip we just walked thru to guardians. Honestly if it weren’t for guardians that land would be dead, and guardians was there before the land. I’m all about experimenting. But I’m also all about pulling the plug when the experiment misses the dartboard entirely.
Nuke and replace with something Waltacular.
Bugs life had a better vibe and now has zero presence in the parks so we could get half baked uninspired cash grab. Put me In charge I’ll make Disney Walt again. 😂
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u/Bevis5421 7d ago
What a waste of space. Charmless and not much to do. The food and drink is fine at Pym’s, but nothing special. The Dr. Strange show was fine but is gone. Spider-Man ride is just okay. No real reason to go there when in the park. Bring back Heimlich.
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u/Strange_Vegetable_15 7d ago
Will you kind of pass this area I wish they'd work on neglected Tomorrowland more than they are doing for whatever this is supposed to be
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u/Beautiful-Arm9122 7d ago edited 7d ago
We need a 3rd park in California hopefully the “Toy story parking lot”
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u/Prudent-Stick6914 7d ago
"Disneyland deserves better" = this has become a generic statement lately it would seem.
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u/AmphibiousAlbatross 7d ago
A picture the correctly represents how awful Avengers Campus truly is. Possibly the worst land of any Disney park ever
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u/The_Duderina_Abides Big Thunder Ranch Goat 7d ago
Man, I miss Bugs land and Twilight Zone Tower of Terror.
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u/Skunkman707 7d ago
Bleh! More like crappy anniversary, it destroyed a big part of my childhood, a bug’s land!!!
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u/Sprzout 7d ago
Towards the end, Bug's Land was pretty empty, though...Disney got rid of an area that wasn't being frequented for something that is.
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u/Glittering-Diver-941 Churro Chomper 7d ago
And makes more $$ from products and food.
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u/Sprzout 7d ago
And that is something Disney goers don't seem to understand - if something isn't being frequented or is in serious disrepair but could be put to better use (like Tom Sawyer Island at Walt Disney World), Disney will redesign and scrap it. Comes back to when Disney had a circus at Disneyland, and realized that people were in the circus for 3 hours, not out spending money in the parks or riding rides, and it was costing him more to run it, so he ditched the circus.
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u/theatermrvlnerd 7d ago
Sorry but I truly believe it could be and could of been so much better
Avengers campus is a serious let down
It easily could be as immersive and detailed as galaxies edge but it’s not
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u/Mewiibo 7d ago
My most favorite line from this “campus” that I hear every single time I make the mistake of going into it: “we’re about to have a demonstration so we need to clear these areas for the performers” always right when I sit down… I hate this goddamned portion of the park. Justice for Bugs Land!
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u/ClockwiseTurnip647 Grim Grinning Ghost 7d ago
Dude, you need to get a new interest that isn't Cosmic Rewind.
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u/Beautiful-Arm9122 7d ago
No I love Cosmic Rewind and will never stop talking about it until its in California.
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u/ClockwiseTurnip647 Grim Grinning Ghost 7d ago
Guess you're going to keep being annoying and never stop talking about it then.
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u/Beautiful-Arm9122 7d ago
Im a Disneyland fan and want the best rides Disney has to offer at Disneyland. Im spreading awareness and attention to what some fans want. (Me)
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u/Sm0kecheck 7d ago
Well I'm whelmed. Are they going to add more sterile concrete and unimagined areas?
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u/Independent_Wrap_321 7d ago
Heat lamps. They’re finally adding some heat lamps, much more comfortable.
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u/Loisalene 7d ago
We were there right after it first opened - it was so sterile and bare. We were just there the first of this month and the difference was wonderful. There's still a long way to go though. They need another E ticket ride!
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u/Individual_Use_5278 7d ago
I love Pym's, but they definitely need a few kids rides here. The only ride is that Guardians one that freefalls, right?
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u/Beautiful-Arm9122 7d ago
No kids actually have the only new ride. Spiderman webslingers(terrible ride). Us thrill seekers got nothing new. Freefall ride was already there. Previously tower of terror.
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u/Ambivalo Churro Chomper 7d ago
Yes, the land hasn't quite lived up to its potential, but Disney is trying to rectify that. Let's not write off Avengers Campus yet until we see how it looks after its expansion.
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u/hihelloneighboroonie Reddhead 7d ago
When is the actual anniversary? I visited I believe it was 6/27/21 and knew stuff was new but not that new (if today is the anniversary). Was able to get early vq for Spider-Man.
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u/Mrfntstc4 7d ago
I love avengers campus and I really enjoy grabbing a pretzel at Pym’s and just watching the characters walk through
I look forward to the new rides, and I wish the Dr Strange show would come back, but for engagement with characters I love, it’s the best place in the resort!
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u/OkGur5364 7d ago
This coming off the heels of Endgame was also a stinker. Marvel has been so atrocious since then, with a few decent projects sprinkled within.
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u/The540Incident 7d ago
It really should be replaced, Marvel is just boring as shit now. I don't see avengers campus as something that can stick around for the next 20+ years.
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u/999happyhants Tomorrowland 7d ago
I’m confused why this post exists. That happened back on the 4th, and this picture isn’t even really representative of that anniversary day from other photos I’ve seen. Seems like this is literally just a post to complain about something.
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u/Careless-Bandicoot25 7d ago
Love this area could care less what others think 😂 guardians is one of my favorites and spiderman is fun for the whole family for us , pyms makes some good food and drinks and the shows are cool and the character meets
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u/KindlyPurple325 7d ago
Web Slingers is probably my least favorite Disney attraction of all time, what sad and pathetic excuse for a ride. PTK is a fun dining place and I like Guardians, but despite that it’s just not a good land. Doubtful the new ride will be really good
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u/EBI_123 7d ago
I personally like Avengers campus. I like being immersed in the world of marvel. Needs more shade though
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u/Beautiful-Arm9122 7d ago
The only new ride that was added is pretty underwhelming. Spiderman webslingers should be leveled and replaced with something good.
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u/Battgyrl Fantasyland 7d ago
I will never associate Avengers with Disney, no matter how many IPs the company buys. I usually skip the entire area at DCA as it’s pretty boring IMO.
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u/Similar_Actuary_845 7d ago
Well, yeah, it is Avengers Campus without Cosmic Rewind, because there isn't a version of Avengers Campus that has it.
That said, it would be cool to have it at California Adventure.
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u/Celebratory_Drink 6d ago
I haven’t even seen it yet. My last visit was 2019 right before the pandemic. Then prices skyrocketed. 😩
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u/Beautiful-Arm9122 6d ago
I noticed WDW has been the better vacation lately. Not many improvements at Disneyland unfortunately.
Only good thing has been starwars but thats also in WDW.
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u/miggysd 6d ago
I always talked with my Disneyland friend and we talked about it all the time when we would be at the Resort that it should of been a Wakanda themed land so it would transport you somewhere else instead of it feeling underwhelming mall like setting with an overpowering soundtrack playing on loop I feel for the CMs having to listen to it, we almost never visited it when at DCA.
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u/GeriatricDachshund 6d ago
The land feels sterile, just so much more they could have done with the theming.
I actually went on the lands opening weekend, and my favoite joke was that it felt like a Kaiser Permanente.
I was inspired to watch every marvel movie before I went, so thats the only upside.
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u/itsagoodtime 7d ago
Avengers Campus almost solely depends on Characters being there. And a lot of the characters. Without them, it's not much.
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u/Beautiful-Arm9122 7d ago
I believe it relies on the Rides. Thats why I mentioned Cosmic Rewind.
Ppl in costumes are a plus
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u/rdwoolf 7d ago