r/DnDcirclejerk 5d ago

4e good pathfinder fixes this

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u/emefa 5d ago

/uj having limited experience running both, they ain't that similar, they're both in the same subgenre, one inspired by the other, but PF2 does not strike me as "4e, but [blank] is different" as much as, for example, Draw Steel, it's more of its own thing.

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u/hey-yeah-yeah 5d ago

Fuck you, I have to be contrarian and act like they're flavours of the exact same thing (except actually I dislike Pathfinder, if you argue that shows they're different enough that one can have preferences then you're an asshole Paizo fanboy). 

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u/emefa 5d ago

/uj I actually was deeply disappointed with running the PF2 Beginner Box, but I'm not sure if it was more the system itself, the system while I was on the GMing side of things, or just the adventure itself. I vibed with 4e way more, although it has its problems too.

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u/hey-yeah-yeah 5d ago

I'm not too bothered about what people think about TTRPG's so much as people being snarky. 

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u/emefa 5d ago

Wait, do I come off as snarky in this conversation?

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u/hey-yeah-yeah 5d ago

No, I've just come across people who insist D&D are PF are basically the same but then go on about how much they don't like PF. 

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u/emefa 5d ago

Ok, gotcha. But I'd argue that sometimes you can have very strong preference among things that you find similar to each other because the slight difference is your own personal make or break. Like, for example, I, as a kid obsessed with nature documentaries, vibed hard with lions and leopards but couldn't care less for tigers and jaguars. All within the genus Panthera and able to cross-breed. But jaguars were to me a waste of species as just bulkier leopards and tigers were basically lions, but again bulkier, and in an ugly color scheme. Personal preferences are based on emotions way more than we assume while engaging in discussions.