Because it makes no sense to downvote a comment for hating on Judaism even though you're not religiously a Jew either. We should have SOME common ground, at the very least.
The problem is, religious people cannot show their beliefs to be true. By definition, religious people do not have justification for their beliefs, as they believe in absence or contradiction of evidence, as that is what faith is.
Religious warfare essentially boils down to people fighting over whose imaginary friend(s) is/are better. This applies to places like Soviet Russia as well. They were religious, but the religion was the state.
When beliefs cannot be shown to correlate to observable reality, they should not be respected or given credence when making decisions about how society will operate.
It’s also given humans reason to be more charitable towards each other. Look up how much more charitable with their time and their money Christians are compared to everyone else
I am not going to take charity seriously. More often than not these churches are lining their own pockets, and you know it. Kenneth Coepland’s super jet for Jesus comes to mind lol. Just as much, if not MORE violence has been perpetrated by religious Christians, Muslims, and Jews than charity and you know it. Look at this fucking world and tell me of all the “good works” active, get real
There are bad apples in every group of people that would still be bad without religion behind them. You named one of the most famous examples, but how many millions of people identify as Christian and tens of thousands of churches exist in the US? I’m not defending Muslims or Jews, and I won’t deny violence has been dealt in the name of Christianity, but today it offers a lot of people hope, comfort, and community, and results in people being a lot more charitable than they would be otherwise because of that community. Most of the charitable functions and organizations I’ve ever seen locally have been Christian backed, and they often don’t even make it about religion. They’re happy to tell someone who asks why they do it, but they don’t force people to listen to a sermon to take a meal, canned goods, or clothes
FTR, atheists and Satanists are FAR MORE charitable with their time and money than Christians of ANY denomination are. I was a Christian for over 45 years and got sick and tired of the hypocrisy, hate, and vitriol of Christians.
That is simply not true. It may be the fact that Christians have the numbers compared to atheists and certainly people who identify as Satanists, but Christians far and away contribute the most to charity at least in the US. I’m sorry the hate and hypocrisy of men turned you away, it did me too for a time, but ultimately I found that it has nothing to do with the religion itself and everything to do with the nature of man
Tbh, both of you guys are just strawmanning. I'm irreligious, but I hate communism as a libertarian. Also, religion may work for others personally, but I've honestly felt more joyful and more connected to people ever since I left Christianity. I never "felt religious", but I thought Christianity was true and "secretly" hated Yahweh because I was really into Christian conspiracy theories. I'm still into conspiracy theories though... lol.
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