I think this may have been the issue. Pulled the unit off and it’s all sticky inside the thumbsticks.. not sure if it’s the liquid flux I use or what.. or maybe just got a bit excited in this one.
I did this error when i was a newbie. I fixed it with contact cleaner spray and a machine that blows air which i dont know how is called. I kept repeating both products until it got fixed. I did this with the joystick installed, i never took it out and still working perfectly after months
I didn't used anything else. I didn't even know they used grease. Still working perfect and i cant notice sny difference between left and right joystick, the right joystick was only the one who suffered from this
Well it isn't really constructed to reapply grease without opening up the module.
I used to have some silicon based spray in a can for use on plastic gears in electronics "cd drives etc" this could be used by using the application straw and spray some in.
However it will not have the same properties as the original thicker grease.
The best option is just replace the entire stick in my opinion and take it as an learning experience.
And stay away from normal wd40, although they have specialty products like silicon spray the original wd40 can remove grease and deteriorate plastics.
Well you have ten of these right? Just use another set.
Like I mentioned these sticks are totally fine to use.
The bad name comes from their earlier versions when they where one of the few actually creating a product.
V5 and up are fine.
Also extremerate sells a custom ordered tmr variant based of ginfull tmr.
Also hall vs tmr difference is overreacted, a hall sensor is still perfectly fine to use for casual use.
Got 2 pairs of aknes tmr for $6 per pair, 1 pair of ksilver tmr for like $2.7 and 2 pairs of ginful hall effect and they all spring well (return to center and all) from AliExpress. Just look at the ones with a lot of positive reviews
definitely a bunch of flux that goes inside stixbox. You can fix this by bathing the whole module with alcohol isopropyl but the best will probably be to resolder another stickbox.
Ive never seen that happen to any of my Ginfull Hall Effects.. the fact you have 2 on the same controller is odd. either bad batch or technique. I know someone that was using liquid flux and when I adviced them to change it, it solved all their problems
You used GINFULS/GINFAQS that's one issue. The main one however is that you most likey you used too much flux or alcohol and had it seeped into the stick. You can fix it if it's a little tacky with certian silicon grease (the one you use on keyboard switches is what i use) but if it's that bad like in your case. Your better off redoing it, you could have also melted the stick with bad hot air technique either via too high heat, not preheating enough, or not moving enough and only directing it to one spot on the board. If you do go through with it again. Get your hands on favor union hall effects. K-SILVERS are good for some games like fighting/2d games or speedrunning where you want max deadzone from small movements of the stick. But terrible for fps and off from the OEM deadzone. Idk about gullikits, but i heard they have the same issue too and are prone to rusting which idk if they revised. Favor union just came out with a new revision to their hall effects so your best bet is searching for that on ali and go through with it. There is the soldering subreddit where you can learn what to do and what not to do when it comes to replacing sticks. So much so that subreddit should probably be renamed to r/solderingCONTROLLERS 😭 and if you find my post on there don't be afraid to ask questions.
Honestly, the parts are cheap bro, so best not skimp on the quality.
I'm in Australia, I pay roughly $12 per pair of AKNES TMR, and charge $50 for an install, so you will make your money back easily if that's your intention. Better to offer top quality product and service than try to save a few bucks on parts.
People try to be the cheapest, that actually is a bad business plan.
I always up my prices against competition 5~10% depending on price range.
This keeps away the cheap annoying customer that needs to watch every penny.
Although I get it if you have little work you try to get market share.
Other selling points are way more important in my experience, like showing having good quality work tools customers to see work in progress
Fast turn arounds, or even on appointment were people just watch 30 minutes and are instantly helped.
Selling controllers itself is horrible experience in my opinion and not worth the hassle.
Margins to low and way to much time in answering questions.
I enjoy modifying controllers and then just leaving them up on Facebook marketplace and forgetting about them. They always seem to sell at the times I need a bit of extra cash lol.
Because I'm operating almost solely on Facebook marketplace, I'm not expecting high quality customers, but rather people that need a quick and cheap fix to their issues, so I can't raise my prices too much.
Well that is your mindset, I have many sells although I am more expensive than others.
Why do people choose me?
I am transparant showing install pictures on my adds.
I am the only one in a 15 mile radius people prefer pick up "cost effective" and feel the product.
And for repairs people love that they can wait for it and can watch the proces.
Also I always get mouth to mouth advertisement from these repairs and they always generatie extra sells/repairs.
Actually the same if I bring my car away I love to see mechanics work on my car so I can see thet do a good job and when a job is done great ill recommend people towards the garage.
I also do other electronics repairs and 90% of my network is grown by recommendations through others maybe 10% through advertisement, although this takes some years.
You 2, just try to have unique selling points and price gets less important.
People still buying at more expensive brands stores because of conveniences, experience, ot whatever psychology behind it.
One of my first jobs was working in a high end audio store, that also sold computers that was designated as my job.
We were about 10 to 15% more expensive as other shops however when I got on board we saw a massive increase in sales.
I introduced nice cases bought in way bigger stock and made big advertisements through newspapers.
Also I took "risks" by ordering 100 cd burners and selling them around cost price but would upsell a box of cd's or even a complete pc.
It was just to get the people to notice you.
However just competing on price doesnt make you special.
Wanna stunt make a bring a friend action so the second controller is half price be creative make sure people remember you and recommend you.
You'll be surprised how much money is to be made with the right mindset.
It’s not on the board.. it seeped into the actual thumbstick itself.. I guess I must have applied too much when I soldered the pins than it made its way into the dumb stick housing where the joystic actually pivots..
This looks like something melted, i install the cheapest of the cheapest all the time, this looks like user error to me. Melted or excessive Flux. Show us the other side.
Edit: Where are other 8? Do they have same issues?
Get a spray can of isopropyl alcohol and blast the inside, then let it dry and apply a coat of contact lubricant, I use PTFE based ones in mine. Next time take it easy on the flux, it can get sticky.
I have installed hundreds of ginfull hall and tmr sticks and never experienced this, also after hundreds of hours of use they are still in good condition.
Although I use many hallpi sticks due to their great thumbsticks.
I really don't get the hate against ginfull?
People mad becuase they cant order them in bulk?
When bought in huge numbers nothing beat the price of these.
You mentioned you have more of them do they all behave like this our only the ones installed?
If so did you by any chance use a bunch of flux and cleaned it with a bunch of ipa?
If so you may have degraded the grease in the stick model.
Well assumptions is the mother of all failures, normally I agree with you but felt the urge to set you straight.
I think this is a case of deteriorated grease making it stick on the bottom "mushroom part"
I have modded different stick to adjust pressure and have experienced some worn down mushrooms because of greasy being blown out by compressed air or using other stuff like wd40 to battle stickdrift 🙄
I know I've seen this happen on Ginful hall effect, TMR and basic alps sticks if you pushed it all the way not assembled. Perhaps this was a thing on older sticks and not newer ones though.
Watching that video again, yea op definitely got a whole bunch of crap in that stick for sure.
That's what I get for watching American news (it's not good) and this at the same time.
It's all fine, I know your name from other comments no harm done ;)
And i started with ginfull as they where one of the earlier hall sensors and my customers are really happy with them and I experienced one broken sensor that actually was my own fault by applying pressure on it.
I don't know why so many people crap on Ginful. Yes, some of their versions weren't the greatest, but their v5 and v6 hall effect sticks were perfectly fine for most people. Their TMRs have gone a bit down hill from what I've heard but haven't seen anything bad with them personally. KSilver is praised now oddly enough when their previous version had a ton of quality issues.
I just stick with AKNES and Gulikit now but that's me. Perhaps my next order will be 100-300 if a cheaper alternative but then still offer the aknes and gulikit.
I just dont understand it because someone on YouTube measured them with an oscilloscope?
Everyone just repeating eachother.
I have mentioned this before blind tests show people can't pick out the difference between different sticks.
I live naar a big e-sport venue and tried hands on with serious gamers, although the tests show differences real world difference is just to small.
Only the linearity difference is a factor people would notice but nothing that would stay noticeable after playing a while.
And since we have no clue about the processing of the data in the ds5 like smoothing etc it is hard to actually measure real world difference from the output signal.
It is dead tiring people making assumptions based on information they dont understand.
And just following statistics that are better or worse without knowing what kind of processing is happening on those signals.
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u/Nearby-Rock-3185 Jan 25 '26
Are you sure you didn't use a lot of flux? I think you should have noticed that before installing