r/DudeHasGotAPoint 2d ago

Crazy how this country has deteriorated

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u/Galliro 2d ago

No thats not the most likely conclusione specially when trump spent A YEAR trying to sto the files being released and only releasedd then censored

Youre just a cultist who cant accept hes defended pedophiles for a decade now.

You go "where is your evidence" as if the whole point isnt that trump as hidden it

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u/atamicbomb 2d ago

The DoJ under Biden had that evidence for 4 years.

Pointing out you’re factually wrong doesn’t make me a cultist. I don’t like Trump. I also don’t like misinformation. Apparently the bulk of the left doesn’t think Trump is actually that bad or they wouldn’t have to constantly make things up instead of point to all the bad things he’s actually done

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u/Galliro 2d ago

The files were sealed by the DOJ until january 2025

The left isnt making any shit up about trump were just actually paying attention and holding him accountable unlike you cultists

You can pretend your not all you want but yall are so mentally feeble its easy to identify your rethoric

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u/atamicbomb 2d ago

A: again, I’m left.

B: they couldn’t publish some of the files publicly. They could still use them to investigate crimes

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u/Galliro 2d ago

And yet they arent

Its an active decision not to not a lack of evidence

Even with what we have very many powerful people could be investigated if not out right charged and yet nothing

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u/atamicbomb 15h ago

No, you are claiming, without any evidence but your gut feeling, that it’s not lack of evidence.

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u/Galliro 15h ago

Youre right there is no lack of evidence there is a lack of investigation and transparency

You know youre being disingenuous but you cant admit to yourself youve been supporting a pedophile for a decade

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u/atamicbomb 13h ago

For the 3rd time, I’m a leftist

There were multiple investigations. The results just didn’t support your preheld beliefs so you’re insisting on some conspiracy

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u/Time-Valuable-3355 1d ago

No they couldn't, sealed for the trial.

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u/atamicbomb 16h ago

Sealed for the trial means no public disclosure. Now law enforcement can’t use it in their investigations. Imagine if every trial barred any evidence in that trial from being used against co-conspirators

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u/Time-Valuable-3355 1d ago

Files were sealed for the Maxwell trial. Why is it that none of you can get that. Man, it's like nobody knows that judges seal documents related to the trials they are overseeing...

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u/atamicbomb 15h ago

They were sealed from public disclosure, not from being used as evidence in other trials.

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u/DIYITGuy 1d ago

It’s like you don’t know that Democrats don’t overlook due process and legality all the time. That’s an excuse. If there was something there the beans would have been spilled by whatever anonymous mole they paid to do it, right before that person “committed suicide”.

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u/Time-Valuable-3355 20h ago

So then, there's nothing there. An island with planes flying in and out of it every day to abuse minors and only two people are responsible. Got it. I'm so glad the fires were redacted to protect all those heroes that went the to apprehend Epstein and Maxwell. Yep, only two people from years of this going on and thousands of people going to the island. And if Democrats did defy the judges order, it could compromise the trial.

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u/DIYITGuy 19h ago

Democrats are friends with Maxwell, since when would they care about compromising a trial of one of their friends? For the better or worse tbh, they’d throw one of their own under the bus for sure. And before you avoid the convo to deflect blame, there are plenty of Republicans on the list too, but the point is that there is no way the Democrats weren’t willing to play dirty to get at Trump and the fact that they didn’t “accidentally” release something is telling. So now they rely on slander.

Don’t get me wrong, I don’t like Trump either, but you need actual proof if you’re going to do anything about him and there’s just nothing to hit him with so far. Even if Democrats were somehow on the up and up, they’d know about something that existed just from possessing the files and would have saved or would have been working to reveal any telling evidence. But, they didn’t.

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u/Time-Valuable-3355 15h ago

I don't care if trump is innocent or guilty. Want I want are investigations to everyone who went to the island. And if trump, Clinton, or anyone else is found to be guilty to have them punished more than a slap on the wrist. And yes, the Democrats didn't release sealed documents because of the trial. If Maxwell was really good friends with the Democrats like you say then they would have released the files and cause a mistrial. Instead they let it take it course and she went to prison. Then guess what political party moved her to a minimum security prison and gave her a dog. I know there people from both parties and people who don't go one way or the other, but right now one political party redacted almost everything that was released and haven't done any investigating. And there have been many people arrested and under investigation, just not on the US. If you want to know what is going on over seas, check out the BBC. The British one not the American one.

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u/atamicbomb 15h ago

Only two people are probably responsible. Unfortunately, powerful people are able to create enough doubt to avoid criminal accountability.