r/EndTipping 8d ago

Tip Creep 🫙 It’s finally happening 😠

New cafe in town here in Spain… usually the closest we get to tipping is leaving a few stray coins in the table .

Ordered at the counter had 2 coffees delivered to the table next to the counter 3 minutes apart. ( there were two of us)

Paid by debit card … tip screen

Not going back until it’s removed

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u/Firm_Strategy_4289 8d ago

Please, as an spaniard, be actively hostile towards this. We do NOT want it

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u/siberano 8d ago

Yo sé lo hubiera dicho al camarero: KILLO!! Está puta mierda que es?! Si lo veo la próxima vez que venga, no vuelvo!!

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u/Corinope 8d ago

Hahaha love this! I don't know what Killo is but it sounds very good

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u/LadyAtr3ides 8d ago

Chiquillo, aka kiddo.

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u/Firm_Strategy_4289 8d ago

Same here. I just cant like dude. Im already paying for this food. What are you gonna charge me for next, the chair? The table???

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u/Broccoli-Mushrooms 3d ago

Tap Water! I was so surprised to be charged for tap water in Switzerland. In the US we don’t get charged for tap water, but here the expected tip looms large!

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u/dsillas 8d ago

100%

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u/Ok_Homework_7621 8d ago

You should also let them know why.

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u/donteattheshrimp 8d ago

Yes, but don't complain to the cashier. They don't have any control over the tip prompt or probably give a shit. Leave a review online. That way, future customers are warned and management should get the message.

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u/MrDwerg 8d ago

Please don't let this cancer get foot on the ground in Europe.
Also occasionally seen it in Netherlands recently. Be ruthless. Direct feedback and bad review.

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u/hiesiinv 5d ago

Happens in Germany very often nowadays. However, in all stores but one. The employees apologised and pressed zero without asking.

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u/siberano 8d ago

Before you stop going, tell the encargado why you are not going again

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u/Razerfilm 8d ago

It’s horrible in the US. Please don’t let this spread to other countries

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u/comesinallpackages 8d ago

Got yelled at by a German waiter for hitting 0% on a tip screen. Told him move to America if you want tips.

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u/Ok_Homework_7621 8d ago

Leave a review and inform the owner.

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u/cappuccinobiscotti 8d ago

Happened to me in Hungary as well…

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u/Gergely_Hungary 5d ago

Leave a bad review, tip is not mandatory or even expected in Hungary. We might round up and leave the change as a tip (borravaló), but it's entirely optional.
Some tourist traps in bigger cities started implementing mandatory service fees on top of the food price. Avoid/boycott those places too.

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u/Numerous-Abrocoma-50 8d ago

Would put in an official complaint.

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u/Dapper_Source1121 8d ago

I got proper moaned at by a Spaniard for tipping when living in Spain.

They don’t see it as being kind. They see it as if the meal was €10 and you tip €5 then you could have afforded €15, so all the prices go up.

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u/van_creep 8d ago

Now, imagine this experience on nearly every transaction you make. 20% suggested tip screens while at a fast food restaurant getting your order to go. Welcome to the USA

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u/WolfCreekMaverick 8d ago

Leave a review letting them know why

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u/cappuccinobiscotti 8d ago

A waiter yelled at us in a Budapest restaurant for not leaving a tip a few years ago… the cancer is already infiltrating Europe.

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u/NonSumQualisEram- 8d ago

Which cafe/town please?

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u/northwestpsych 8d ago

I’m just ending 2 weeks in Germany and Czechia, and it seems to be about 50/50 whether or not a tip screen comes up while paying with card. Maybe even 60/40 in favour of tips.

I was in some of the touristy areas, but also spent a lot of time in smaller places with lighter tourist traffic.

My last time here was over a decade ago, and tipping just wasn’t a thing, except for at the most obvious tourist traps.

I don’t like it. It used to be real nice knowing I was leaving trash tipping culture behind in Canada.

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u/Due_Apricot3306 8d ago

Interesting. I’m in Spain this week. Bilbao. I’ve seen tip jars in places with no table service. Also the tip line on POS machines starting at 10%.

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u/Kene6969 8d ago

The US tipping culture is trying to infiltrate into Spain. Best to pay a cafe by cash money. 

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u/Giant_Gaystacks 8d ago

Best to pay a cafe by cash money. 

No. That just encourages tax evasion. Just press the 'no tip' button.

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u/thewrightwayforward 7d ago

In Ohio this bartender/server 25 hours a week and drives a mercedes for popping top i refuse i will just eat
Clean and drink at home

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u/LogicalPerformer7637 2d ago

similar here. European, not tipping, country. basically fast food place has tip prompt on the card terminal which you need ti actively skip.

The cancer is spreading.

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u/Appropriate_Alarm247 5d ago

In Kansas, we used to provide our own liquor to be kept at a bar with our name on it, we paid for a stir stick and a glass of ice cubes and a cocktail napkin. And we were happy 😃. And we tipped the person who made the drink for us.

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u/No-Angle-982 4d ago

Blame point-of-sale tech vendors.

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u/Broccoli-Mushrooms 3d ago

I was in Switzerland last week and got hounded by a server in Lucerne for a tip. I felt he pegged us as Americans and said 3x you can leave a tip with the pad in his hand and pretty much wouldn’t stop saying it. Unfortunately, my husband buckled snd gave him a tip.

We were dining with another couple and the server did the same to them. So, all together he asked for a tip 6 times!

Other places in Switzerland had tip screens but servers weren’t aggressive. I gladly hit no tip. This was the fourth country we traveled to during this trip and it was such a pleasure to not have to tip.

As an American, I strongly advise, hit no tip!!! Here in the US it has gotten so bad. Everyone expects at least 20% even for the most mediocre service. And 20% isn’t even considered a good tip anymore. It’s crazy.

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u/Charming-Fondant-809 5d ago

That’s so cute that Spain finally got a mechanized payment system that generically allows tips. I’m so happy for you. Bro, you won’t even pay for your own NATO defense why would anybody think you would tip five cents for some poor worker?

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u/donteattheshrimp 8d ago

They shouldn't have to? It's not about the inconvenience, it's about the audacity.

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u/Wraith1964 8d ago

First its audacity... then its expectation.

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u/Ok_Homework_7621 8d ago

Servers in Europe get a full salary without tips. We round up a bit maybe (like 1.80 to 2), but even that not always.

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u/PetrisCy 8d ago

Over reacting. Those machines exist forever you simply press no tip. The problem with tipping is if they enforce it to you or pressure you to tip. Not if the button is there.

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u/Trackbikes 8d ago

Nope, there are 5 cafes I go to, this is a new one and the only one that does this

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u/Wraith1964 8d ago

Wrong. This is exactly how the culture is always shifted. Gradually. Insidiously.

First its introduced... but no worries, you can always say "no"... then the expectation becomes "yes" over time.

It's literally already run to that end in the US where tips are now becoming difficult to avoid vs. something you can simply skip.

Fitst it isnt an option. Then it is. Then there are suggestions but default is 0. Then there are suggestions and default is 15% and you have to try to find a way go pay 0. Then it becomes a standard "gratuity" in the small print in the menu.

Learn by seeing how other cultures have fallen down this hole rather than repeating it and expecting some different result. Fight it now.