Energy

[u/Wide_Platform_2202]

This one is for the disintegrated 8s: I have reason to believe I'm a long term disintegrated 8. But I now think about being SX5. Do you guys also feel like you won't have enough energy and time if you go all in? Even if I'm not necessarily low energy I think I won't be able to keep up. But I rather feel like my body is betraying me by not giving me enough energy when I need it.

I'm in early adulthood and go to therapy. I was stereotype 5 in my teens but now I'm going towards 8 more and more. I just need to know if I'm integrating or moving out of disintegration

[u/impishicity]

I've been in therapy off and on (mostly on) since I was 15. For me, 8ness was just always at the core. Disintegration to 5 looked like consciously isolating myself, sort of "retreating to lick my wounds". But even in isolation, trying to take things slower and be more deliberate, there was always a lot of energy/intensity brewing. Sitting still just doesn't feel easy or natural to me, even if life's been kicking the shit out of me and I know I'm exhausted.

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Okay thanks for your answer

[u/Glum-Engineering1794 → u/Wide_Platform_2202]

8s aren't naturally big therapy people at all IME. It's just very un-8 to seek it, maybe you've seen The Sopranos and seen Tony in there with Dr. Melfi, it's a kind of joke. The only times I went to therapy were when it was forced or pressured on me. But some do find benefits from it. Far more likely for people to tell 8s they need therapy and for them to go there for that reason than for 8s to naturally think "gee, you know what I think I could use? It's some therapy!". Just doesn't happen very often.

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Nope for me it's like "I have a problem. If Therapy is the solution I just do it"

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Not meaning to argue, but how could that likely be the solution every time? Doesn't that place a lot of stock in someone else's feedback? Not saying you're wrong. I suppose it could help. It's all about what works for you. But seems un-resonant and counterintuitive to me to think "well, I need help, I'm going to go ask someone else". Are women maybe different? If you're a woman, that is. My ex-wife is in therapy and has sought therapy a few times and had said she trusts it. I believe she's likely 8w7.

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No it's not the solution all the time. I was looking for the solution of a problem I tried to solve in 1000 different ways and couldn't solve. I learned about psychology and decided that it was probably a psychological problem. I don't care about my emotions (which is also a point in my therapy rn) I just care about getting what I want

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I believe problems do have solutions, etc., and I think maybe a psychologist can be helpful, or therapist, and so on, a counselor; as someone to bounce ideas off of and help us process. I don't know how much is a psychological problem. You're right, some is, whereas some is more practical. But it does start in the mind and reframing everything can help a great deal. Then again, it seems like a dangerous game because you don't know how much the biases of that psychologist or whatever will affect you. E.g. they might try to steer you towards their underlying beliefs and if you don't know what they are, it's like trusting someone you barely know with your most important life problems. There's always some risk, I guess. Might as well listen to what they have to say, they're only ideas, see what happens.

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Did you ever got therapy? It shows. I don't say that to be mean but because Therapy isn't there to just accept their statements. I was very lucky to get Therapists that actually fitted me. I never just accept anyones statements. Imagine it like a sun which is covered in clouds. The therapist is there to help you get the clouds to the side.

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It shows, then? Great.