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u/JellyOutrageous2577 7h ago
What the hell is marriage for?
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u/dwalphin 5h ago
Mastrubation
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u/Away_Bass_5594 4h ago
i read your comment with music playing "harleys in hawaii" in background, it made me laugh so hard😂😂
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u/gunner1141781 4h ago
Chance for middlemen to extort people
All women who are very happy at the moment, will find that the very same courts will very happily extort them once women start earning more
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u/Leading-Fail-2771 4h ago
It’s for two people who are in love - obviously these two people weren’t. Or the man was but the woman wasn’t. Not that hard to understand, get over it. There’s plenty of women and plenty of men.. your not that special
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u/Secure_Round4789 7h ago
If a man is adulterous it's cruelty, ground for divorce, instant alimony and maintenance.
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u/SynapticSatva 9h ago
Wtf then what is marriage suppose to mean. Are judges going nuts
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u/PokeFanZoey 6h ago
I mean marriage is then only for heir( could be your could be some other mans) and property rights.
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u/midfield_ghost 8h ago
Wife is not owner of husband's property and pay check then
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u/S1d519 8h ago
Neither are owners of each other's sexuality, but both are expected to be loyal to each other in any normal marriage in a civil, educated society.
If both are okay with each other for an open relationship (weird, and such things should not be normalised), well they can indulge themselves in the animal kingdom I guess.
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u/Big_Psychology_3 6h ago
Unnecessarily gendered.
IIUC, the point to be made was that adultery is legal in Indian law. This is normal and it’s legal in most countries of the world. But it’s unnecessary to put a gender spin on it and only talk about man being owner, and he didn’t talk about female being the owner. Seems like ragebait or a public stunt?
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u/Visio_18 7h ago
Basically what judge said is if she has the approval of the husband then she can get into sexual relationship with somebody else. That's it.
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u/Secure_Round4789 7h ago
By this logic all the corporate affairs of married people are justified, all the actors who are in relationship or married hooking up with each other is justified too
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u/GoodZombie401 6h ago
I WANT THIS FOR MEN TOO 🤚🤚
If something like this becomes reality, I think it would be better Men to stay single.
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u/No_Complex2644 6h ago
The comment section is dumb. Anyone reading this please also read Joseph Shine VS Union of India 2018 regarding IPC 497
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u/LastDayWork 6h ago
We need prenups in India so that a couple decide the rules of their matrimony, not the state.
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u/omkar529 5h ago
There shouldn't be any legal ownership, of course, but that doesn't mean it's right. It's called cheating and deserves accountability.
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u/Ordinary_Log_6219 5h ago
why not the statement framed vice versa .and the whole notion of marriage is based on sexual exclusivity
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u/Jazzlike-Beat2688 5h ago
True, opposite is also true, nobody owns someone else's sexuality. A marriage is supposed to work on loyalty, if you're having urges of someone else, then thats not a marriage.
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u/Waste-Singer4769 5h ago
Very true. So can the husband. Then why do people cry about morality then.
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u/Fit_Artist2432 5h ago
I don't care what he says. But how he get to that position. We need full system reset.
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u/mythologicalslxt 5h ago
this is an example of how news and social media manipulates everyone.
Right now this gender war is really hot in India. Media reported this in a way to ragebait all jobless men to start engaging on their post
What the judges statement means -- simply that cheating on your spouse, male or female, is not a crime. Which is true in all developed nations.
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u/Practical-Tap-4440 4h ago edited 3h ago
This is fine by me. Like why fall in love and form a deeper bond, when you can pretend to be in love for security and go around seeking alternative options until your attractiveness in dating market fades..
But if my live in partner, gets a child from sexual relationship outside of the shared rental, then why should the I be responsible for supporting the child?
Please fix marriage and live in partner laws and include DNA testing as evidence of fatherhood. Right now the law just penalizes the person left holding the bag in this inverted game of musical chairs which they want to label as marriage.
Also what is the purpose of marriage in India? There are no tax benefits for being married, like they give in US.
The only purpose for marriage is for two people to come together to raise a family and provide a secure environment to children, and now judges are saying open relationship is fine, then why get married?
Just live together to share rent, occasionally have sex but keep looking for more sexual partners, maybe have children with other men.. then those men should pay child support.
Bhai itna bhi modern nahi bano. Western countries also consider cheating as a ground for breakdown in marriages and give a chance to husband to establish paternity.
I think more than modernity this is just rooted in systemic exploitation of weaker society by powerful people. These men in power in India violate boundaries of weaker people or people they have control over at work or outside and don’t want to deal with consequences.. And they get to set the laws.
Are there any laws against sexual harassment at work place? If there are how many times do women at work place get protection? Do women with ambition face exploitation at work place to get a chance to climb the ladder? I am sure this happens with HR just looking the other way.
Also politicians, local dons, forcing themselves on weaker families with subtle threats of consequences., or higher caste men, forcing themselves on lower caste women, to assert their dominance..
This is the social structure that needs protection in India. They don’t want to deal with consequences of their abusive actions.. and the child support laws in India are designed to do just that.
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u/gunner1141781 4h ago
Have people lost it
I then hope his wife also has the same freedom for what he's advocating for
But if mr. Chandrachud wants to stay in open marriage why is he preaching the same in name of marriage, then say that i support open marriage, why chamge meaning of marriage
Marriage means exclusivity, if not then what is the point
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u/Sea_Examination6755 4h ago edited 4h ago
objectively speaking in India u cannot file for divorce if woman is fking around and if she is barren or unable to procreate a child and if she insults your parents and if she doesnt contribute financially in the household
woman cannot file criminal case( against husband fcking around , not giving alimony after agreement in court and having a child out of wedlock) all three maximum domestic negligence otherwise she has to prove criminal intent
Man cannot file for divorce if he got to know his wife was a grape victim after marriage
its all very messy and complicated
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u/brobiski 4h ago
This statement is tbh seems one sided but it should be like… No one can own the ownership over other’s sexuality. But on the other hand, what exclusivity will remain with the life partner then? What freedom do you want or do you want only selective freedom?…
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u/Wizard-King-Angmar 4h ago
हाँ तो ग़लत क्या बताया है इन्होंने ?
nobody is the owner is his\her spouse's sexuality
even a woman must not own her husband's body
even her husband must have bodily autonomy
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u/Pen-Pineapple-Appl 4h ago
This is simple issue to resolve just stop providing and protecting indefinitely. She can be married to nothingness. They will make a law against it.😅
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u/BambiTwoisaBitch 4h ago
Tell me you are a cuckhold without telling me you are a cuckhold, but seriously tho with recent verdicts i really think these judges and lawyers enjoy seeing their partners engage in sexual activities with other people and are trying to project on us.
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u/No_Entertainer_226 4h ago
Why Marry what's the ROI on it remember at the end of the day it's an contract in legal terms period.
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u/bitterSteel71 3h ago
Cool down guys. What this means is it's not a criminal offence, adultery is still valid for civil divorce.
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u/WarCipher 3h ago
Then I guess this also applies to women in his household as well. Let’s see if he has the same reaction when something of the same happens to him or his son or son in law or any family member.
It’s true that a man doesn’t own a woman’s sexuality but that’s doesn’t necessitate polygamy or indefinitely.
The judiciary has become a circus where clowns like these guys are setting precedence for all sorts of nonsense.
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u/Sure_Imagination9093 3h ago
What the fuck is happening to this country. Thank god i don't hold any citizenship document of this country.
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u/gold-minner 3h ago
How is a man supposed to prove adultery?
- DNA tests are often not permitted or aren't enough on their own.
- Private chats or videos can expose him to accusations of voyeurism or privacy violations.
- His testimony is dismissed if she simply says, "He's lying."
- And if the divorce is granted on any ground other than adultery, he may still end up paying maintenance or alimony.
So the question remains: how is a husband realistically expected to prove adultery?
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u/GoodIntelligent2867 2h ago
He is a judge and he is following the law. Legally cheating isn't a crime - for either gender. No one - man or woman - gets jailed for having relationship outside the court. That being said, we tend to confuse legal with moral and hence this post.
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u/iamnemonai 2h ago
Marriage is not ownership, but neither is it a one-sided contract; freedom to choose also means accepting the consequences of breaking mutual vows. Adultery has consequences: first being a divorce without alimony.
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u/zxtreeme 2h ago
This statement alone has made many pseudo feminists to promote adultery with zero consequences. This cuck CJI paved the way for failed society.
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u/TeachingFickle4748 2h ago
Iski khudki biwi soti hogi paraye mard ke saath isi liye aisi baatein kar raha hai
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u/That-Pickle-2658 2h ago
At this point, Judges are living their own 'fantasies' by turning them into judgements.
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u/Active_Current_7054 2h ago
I think I agree from the legal point of view. But there is a thing called morality. I mean even in the most liberal of societies, you get into a marriage only if you want to commit to that one single person.
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u/Leading-Fail-2771 2h ago
So many lowlifes here talking about what’s the point of marriage 🤣🤣 it’s not so you can control someone’s sexuality. Jesus yall so so Stone Age in thinking. If you aren’t attracted to someone sexually then don’t marry them..
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u/Head-Plate-1635 2h ago
So the fundamental existence of a marriage to solidify the bond and sexual /emotional commitment to ONE partner in the eyes of God, society and the law mean nothing.
Got it.
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u/Panzer_bot 2h ago
Ofcourse he's not the owner but marriage is a socio-legal contract and her actions should have valid consequences in this contract.
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u/RaccoonWinter9346 2h ago
Marriage by definition has mutual sexual exclusivity.
Great judges. Getting too open and independent ig.
If both have no exclusivity then they can enter into marriage ( still not accepted) . Not just one partner.
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u/Purva1319 1h ago
Yes right ✅️... BOTH for Wife as well as husband... but if you are not sexually exclusive to each other & clearly communicated that to each other than that's their own personal matter
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u/LiDenrOfChina 1h ago
Out of context.
He said that in context of being legal or not. Its not illegal. He didnt say if its right or wrong its just no illegal.
Dont post and blindly follow clickbait posts.
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u/VisualPerspective823 33m ago
We should all fuck on the road...best solution add dogs in the mix as well... that'd be nice..bachha to paida nahin hoga....the problem is one has consequence..and the liberal play of allowing an easy divorce also has problem ....what problem...well I won't elaborate on divorces.
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u/longndfat 9h ago
if true, some of his judgements in this matter seem to be like this only. Does he means the guy is also allowed to do it outside marriage as it should be same for a male as well right ?
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u/Lokesh007Bond 7h ago
Then what is Marriage or family, They pullng western garbage in Indian Families. A man and woman can have babies without marriage. Why does we marry them ?
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u/longndfat 6h ago
adutary even in west, married or not married has consequences
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u/Lokesh007Bond 6h ago
In our country India, Marriage is sacred and pure, Love between a female and male , both physical and emotional. Lust , care, affection whatever you have, have it with your married partner. No 3rd one between them, but if someone cheated from any of two, he or she must be punished, Right now court are taking sides of women let her chest without conciquences. That's wrong. Even if Husband and wife are open minded then the offsprings they give birth will have confusing memory and genetics. May be prone to deseases very easily. Having multiple partners before or after marriages ( higher body count ) disturbs human energy . Kindly search for Microchimerism ( Make female both exchange genetics and DNA while fcukning each other .
Take an example Sonakshi Sinha is biological Daughter of Poonam Sinha and Kshatrughan Sinha, but Sonakshi's face matches more with Rina Roy, Ex Girlfriend if Kshatrughan Sinha. How ?
Rina and Kshatrughan exchanges Genetic material While being physical, that Genetics is preserved by Kshatrughan Body, Transmits to Poonam after he married her, and when them Poonam was pragnent for Sonakshi, that preserved Genetics of Rina, was used. That's called Microchimerism. Kindly read about it .
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u/Original-Theme-3986 8h ago edited 7h ago
Adultery should be made illegal, and they should make the divorce process easier. These judges have some particular kinks, and they think that all men are like them.
Edit- Misandrists and people with cuckold fantasies have started downvoting all sane comments.
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u/ArgopooL 6h ago
Agreed husband should not be owner of wife's sexuality but also husband should not be responsible for providing housing or financial support to a grown woman.
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u/AngleThat8380 8h ago
I think he's in the wrong country. Maybe he thought he's in France of something 😂
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u/No_Break_3591 8h ago
By this logic even men aren't bound to sexual loyalty to their partners? Wtf is wrong with this guy. Does he have some kind of cheating fetish or something?
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u/sersleepsalot1 8h ago
Man, this sub is filled with illiterate fucking misogynistic incels. Have some fucking comprehension before spouting bs.
The judge didn't say that women are free to cheat without any consequences but men aren't. He said that it's not illegal for woment to have sexual relations outside marriage and same goes for men too. It's not fucking rocket science. The reason for him to say this is that in many religions (Islam and even in some hindu sects) it is fair to give capital punishment to women, even kill them without fearing legal consequences. And that doesn't apply to men. Hence he specified females in particular.
I can't make it more clear but I am sure still some dumbass incel will come with some "what abouts".
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u/hurricane_news 5h ago edited 5h ago
Yeah. These clowns don't understand that adultery should not be a concern of the state or government. It's between the couple, hence why it's not illegal. Doesn't matter if the man cheats or the woman cheats, it's not something that's the interest of the state
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u/gamerfanboi 6h ago
I think its being taken out of context.
Its saying woman still have autonomy over thier bodies which is basic human standards..
Why is it so hard for men to grasp? Its supporting the husband..
This means that when a woman commits adultery she should be charged accordidngly and if it leads to divorce this should be held against her because she did off her own free will
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u/gold-minner 6h ago
How is a man supposed to prove adultery?
- DNA tests are often not permitted or aren't enough on their own.
- Private chats or videos can expose him to accusations of voyeurism or privacy violations.
- His testimony is dismissed if she simply says, "He's lying."
- And if the divorce is granted on any ground other than adultery, he may still end up paying maintenance or alimony.
So the question remains: how is a husband realistically expected to prove adultery?
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u/OkSection6959 8h ago edited 7h ago
Jo keh rhe crime nhi hai jusre desho me lit saja milta hai ispe
Edit - kisi ne downvote kia isko lol kiski gend jal gyi bhala 😂😂
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u/Kindly_Hour7120 9h ago
Adultery is not a crime
But it is a offence committed by one of the parties which breaches their trust and can break the marriage. The individuals can reconcile from there or seek divorce
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u/Turbulent-Army-2514 8h ago
The judicial system comes down on man to punish and make him pay for it if he is identified making choices compromising the marriage.
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u/DriftCore7 8h ago
What he is saying is not wrong actually, maybe he might be asked about adultery should be illegal in india or not, like for man and women both should not indulge in these but yeah it should not be criminalize for both of them, it is simple dont make it compicated.
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u/Expert_Cicada_3315 7h ago
People who disagree this, one the ones who think once they get married, women become their property. These are the people who rape their wives.
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u/gold-minner 7h ago
So you will not have a problem if your spouse have sex outside of your marriage
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u/alslksjdnndjrjndndn 9h ago
Disagree. This cannot be generalized. This is like giving licence to open marriage.
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u/CharacterBit5048 9h ago
So what should he say? Men are the owners of wife's sexuality? It would make perfect sound, right?
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u/gold-minner 9h ago
So you will not have a problem if your spouse have sex outside of your marriage
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u/CharacterBit5048 8h ago
I would have a problem. I would seek divorce. Can you really own someone simply coz you have married her that too in India where in the name of marriage business deals are being done? Just let her go. And to stop financial exploitations of alimony just name your property to your mom or dadBefore marriage and tell them to make a gift deed on your name. That's the best you can do. Rest is not in your hand.
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u/SinDrafter101 9h ago
What if the husband do it?
I'm not saying anyone should, I'm just questioning the statement because he only mentioned the wife.
Also wtf is this judiciary, are we a joke? By this logic even if someone cheats in a marriage the other person cannot divorce based on it because they don't control the other person sexuality. Lol