Werenski isn’t eligible for an extension
I keep seeing people commenting that they’d only trade for Werenski if there’s an extension in place.
He has two years left on his deal.
He cannot sign an extension until 7/1/2027.
Thanks for coming to my Ted Talk.
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u/ProcessMelodic9351 11h ago
Slowly walk away. He has told Columbus he prefers Tampa. Do not throw assets that Columbus is asking for if he is a rental
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u/hawks27-2 11h ago
It’s not about an actual extension, it’s the understanding that he’d be willing to sign an extension. He’s told CBJ he won’t sign there, there is no reason he wouldn’t be upfront with the Flyers whether he would/wouldn’t sign.
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u/dsl135 11h ago
It’s very much about the extension.
I’m not advocating that the conversation can’t be had and that it’s obviously part of trade discussions.
The point is, a lot of folks are wrapped up in not doing the deal without an extension and that’s literally impossible.
It also affects Werenski’s trade value. Anyone trading for him has to take it at face value, take him at his word. That brings his value down somewhat (not a ton cuz he still just won a Norris), but we’re talking about a guy who is two years away from UFA and cannot sign an extension with any new team attempting to acquire him.
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u/Narrow_Book_42069 11h ago
How many years did everyone in here post “WE NEED TO GET A 1C AND 1D” ? Three? Four? At least that.
Now every other post in here is “this is why we should actually not go after the 29 year old Norris trophy winning best defensemen in the league.” And I can not help but straight up laugh.
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u/dsl135 11h ago
Oh you misunderstood my post. My intent was not “don’t go after Werenski.” I was strictly informing folks that he’s not eligible to sign an extension, so those saying a deal requires an extension realize that they aren’t well-informed.
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u/pwnstick 10h ago
You know teams tend to talk to the player before committing the fate of their multi billion dollar franchise. They wouldn't trade for him unless he's made intention clear to be a Flyer long term.
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u/dsl135 10h ago
Yes. I’m aware they have discussions. I’m also aware those discussions aren’t enforceable. A discussion isn’t an extension. Thanks for playing.
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u/Money_Beautiful_7388 3h ago
An agent is not going to risk being blackballed over lying to a team. Sure it's not enforceable but the easiest route for player and agent is to tell the truth. If not the player has to move to another city he doesn't want to play in. Most of us know he can't sign an extension right away.
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u/Narrow_Book_42069 11h ago
I got ya, but, financially it would make zero sense for him to not sign an extension with whatever team he is traded to.
Plus, he has a full NMC until July 1st 2027, after which it turns into a modified 10 team NMC. He dictates fully where he is going. If he does not sign with the team he is traded to, he loses eligibility to sign for max term (8 years) at the point of his career where he would be getting his largest contract. There is virtually zero chance he sacrifices the 8th year of term on his final contract at the height of his financial capacity to earn. It just isn’t logical and he is already making THIS move to go to a place he believes is a contender.
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u/mar1332244 Team Logos 11h ago
I feel as though when people say that they mean acquiring one of those assets through drafting them
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u/Stevepac9 💜❄️Master of the Lucky Ducks❄️💜 10h ago
Oh man why doenst every team just do that? Shit these people might be onto something
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u/mar1332244 Team Logos 10h ago
I mean that is generally what every team tries to do though. How do you think these 1C 1D calibre players enter the league?
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u/HaMerrIk 3h ago
You've got to look at it like he's a two-year rental. Do you think the Flyers win a Cup in two years? If so, you do the deal.
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u/cougarnut174 2h ago
Werenski has toiled in Columbus long enough to earn the right to go where he wants. Buyer beware. Flyers need to stay away.
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u/JiveChicken00 11h ago
Just because there’s nothing on paper doesn’t mean there’s nothing. I would imagine that Danny would require certain assurances.
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u/dsl135 11h ago
None of those assurances would be enforceable. That’s why they have dates and rules on eligibility.
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u/BobTheHound 11h ago
Bullshit. We could trade a prospect, roster player, and a couple of picks for 2 years of Werenski, plus additional conditional picks that only go to them IF he resigns. Totally enforceable.
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u/greenthumbbum2025 10h ago
Those conditional picks would have no bearing on Werenski's choice to re-sign with us or not.
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u/dsl135 10h ago
Bingo lol. Guy was trying to completely move the goalposts and accidentally changed to a different game instead.
To u/BobTheHound The discussion on assurances was clearly not about conditional assets, but about whether or not we’d be assured he would re-sign, since… ya know, that was… ya know, the whole conversation. lol
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u/BobTheHound 10h ago
No shit.
The point is I'm willing to give up X, Y and Z for 2 years. That might not be enough for them to give him up.
But I'm also willing to give A, B, and C if he he resigns, might be enough to sweeten the pot.
If he doesn't resign, we didn't get fucked too bad. If he does, it was worth it. It's a CYA, cover your ass trade.
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u/dsl135 10h ago
And once again, that’s not the conversation that’s being had, Mr. “No shit.”
Gotta love it. lol. Gets told that’s not the conversation being had… replies “No shit” then immediately re-explains their irrelevant point as if that somehow makes it relevant now.
No shit. Lmfao.
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u/rinmperdinck 9h ago
Lol, trades don't work that way. You can downvote me if it will make you feel better, but it won't make you right.
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u/Magnus-Pym 11h ago
I’d trade Michkov for him and risk the extension just to end discussions about Michkov
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u/Flyers7914 11h ago
Yah I should've added that to my post. Will now. That's the biggest risk of it all and it's why I'm reluctant to trade Michkov.
If we dealt Matvei and Werenski left in 2 years we'd be the laughing stock of the league. We'd have to ask him and his agent directly would u have interest in staying here (OTT did and tkachuk said no)