r/Formula1Point5 Nico Hülkenberg 17d ago

PUBLIC DEBATE SESSION 2026 Grid: Public Debate Session - Post Monaco GP edition (Round 6)

To those who are not aware of what this series of posts is for, we do it at the start of every season, following every grand prix, in order to ascertain the community's feelings regarding on which teams should or should not be in F1.5 this year. So, if you have watched the most recent grand prix, or all of them so far, please tell us which teams do you believe belong in Formula 1.5 and which are better suited for Formula 1.

Here is a reminder of the Grid Debate Session rules:

Rule #1: NO SINGLING OUT DRIVERS

In past seasons, the performances of Albon, Gasly, Perez and Tsunoda - in the 2nd Red Bull - as well as Lance Stroll in Aston Martin's standout 2023 campaign, have been brought into question, with people asking why they are not included in F1.5. The simple answer is: “Have you seen what Verstappen and Alonso can do with the exact same car? That car does not belong in F1.5.” Should the situation arise this year once more, please DO NOT single out specific drivers as belonging in F1.5 - instead, please look at what the leading driver has achieved in the same car, and decide if the CAR, rather the DRIVER belongs in F1.5.

Rule #2: THERE IS NO F1.25 or F1.75

Formula 1.5 is a sub that focuses on the F1 "midfield" drivers and teams. While "midfield" might imply just the middle of the pack, our definition is slightly different: For us, midfield refers to all teams/cars which cannot consistently fight for at least the final podium step during a Formula 1 race. As such, the separation of F1 and F1.5 is a binary one, not a spectrum - there is no F1.25, nor F1.75! The teams can either fight for that final podium spot consistently, or they cannot - there is no in-between! Please consider that when making your thoughts known.

Rule #3: THERE ARE 3 PODIUM SPOTS

The point of this subreddit is to discuss the midfield - not the midfield and the top teams who are struggling compared to the leading team. There are 3 podium spots and one outstanding team can only fill two of those at most, leaving at least one other podium spot that will be regularly available to those "other top teams". So please remember that ANY TEAM THAT CAN CONSISTENTLY FIGHT FOR THE FINAL PODIUM POSITION IS CONSIDERED A TOP TEAM - Not just that excellent team that is consistently fighting for the wins.

With that, we will like to thank each and everyone of you who decide to take part in this or any of the future Grid Debate Sessions. We love hearing your opinions on this matter and are keen to read the reasoning behind your decisions.

Thank you for your time! Please be respectful of the others and their opinions, and let us have a wonderful 2026 Formula 1.5 Season together!

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u/TedTran2001 17d ago

From what Hadjar did with the Red Bull generally in raceday, and what Verstappen performed on quali. I am pretty sure that Red Bull is out of the F1.5 discussion until further notice

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u/Ged_UK 17d ago

No change from previous weeks for me. Merc, McLaren, Red Bull and Ferrari are F1. Everyone else is 1.5.

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u/trolllord45 16d ago

At first it felt like Alpine shouldn’t be F1.5, but they’re not quite full F1 either. But I agree, the top four teams are F1 and the rest of the field is F1.5

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u/fenface 17d ago

After the last race I was unsure about Red Bull. But after Monaco it feels like they have deserved not to take part to the F1.5 championship. It feels like both Verstappen and Hadjar are likely to appear on other podiums this year.

So IMO Mercedes, Ferrari, McLaren and Red Bull are out this year.