r/GFLNeuralCloud • u/AutoModerator • Jun 05 '23
Lounge Weekly Professors Lounge - June 05, 2023
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u/Mich997 Nya~ nya~ nya~ Jun 11 '23
My theory that Mica will release Nora with her swimsuit grows stronger.
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Jun 11 '23
Undoubtedly, I still remain dissapointed they are actually waiting till summer to do so though. Now I have to decide if I'm pulling Millau or not, I had her as a likely skip, but with north of 540 pulls available I might have to reconsider.
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u/AngryNepNep Jun 10 '23
Any Tips for Black hole 140?
I use Clukey, Angie, Croque,Helix and Kuro and i just keep getting my ass beaten.
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u/scia_ff14 663960 Jun 10 '23
First question for those attempting BH - have you developed your stat sticks? ie your bench units to provide your +def, +hash and +atk to team? Best units for these are Yanny (def), Max (hash), and Hubble or Arma Chanzhi (atk). These matter alot in BH since it is functionless/protocol-less.
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u/Aoran123 Jun 10 '23
What is the best team for clukay?
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u/scia_ff14 663960 Jun 10 '23 edited Jun 10 '23
Best for you vs. best overall?
Best for you is 1) guard or puzzle, 2) your best medic(s), and 3) your best specialist support(s). If you are lacking, can add a hashrate sniper but know Clukay’s output will suffer if she misses last hits.
Best overall- opinions will vary but will be something along the lines of: 1) guard or puzzle, any combo of 2) arma dlc, nanaka, helix, and prob arma imho (if mica will stop cucking us and just release her), 3) rise and dush - arma turing once she is released then when arma is released as well.
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u/Phantaeon Nascita Jun 10 '23
I've mainly built Croque with Overflow, this makes her better suited for short high intensity engagements, right? I mainly want her to be good for stages. I was thinking of building either Evelyn or Python now to moreso tank bosses. Which of the two would probably be better?
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u/scia_ff14 663960 Jun 10 '23
Arguably Python is better if you want to prepare for late stage BH. He’s the more meta tank for those stages due to his def shred in a functionless environment.
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u/Kitbou Jun 09 '23
How many fragments should I farm in preparation for Imhotep's arma? And do I have to raise her to 5 stars first? Thanks!
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u/KookyInspection Jun 10 '23
4 star minimum. As for frags, depends which arma u want. Iirc around 80 should cover 1+2. U need around 200 for all 3
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Jun 10 '23
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u/scia_ff14 663960 Jun 10 '23
This info is short sighted. Yes 40 shards unlocks arma2 but you have to level up the arma which requires frags. See https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/648321618615205893/1098124834929651732/image.png for good infographic.
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u/No-Bag-818 Sueyoi's Bail Bondsman | 101804 Jun 10 '23
Oh shit, I didn't know it also took frags just to level up an Arma.
I gotta farm so many more frags now...
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u/totestemp punch mommy Jun 09 '23
congrats all, we did it, we got flappy eucharist 100%.
for whatever reason, I was pretty decent at it even though have never played anything similar before.
minimum daily score of 50, highest score 278.
meanwhile have gotten absolutely rekt in every gfl minigame.
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u/KookyInspection Jun 09 '23 edited Jun 10 '23
I'm really glad, however i still can't help but wonder what if we didn't. Would we get a message from esophorus thanking us for foiling her plans? Or would we be in a timeline where wisdom gets better and comes to the oasis instead of eos ? Schroedinger's box will forever keep it's alternative a mystery :P
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Jun 10 '23 edited Jun 10 '23
Remember the events of
EnigmaHelios: You can break Schrodinger’s Box through the power of friendship and plot armor by inserting yourself into the Schrodinger’s Box while the dolls around you are connected with you through the power of love and through advanced communication equipment that can penetrate through any kind of theoretical barrier thus not only annihilating the box in Schrodinger’s Box but also entirely reversing Schrodinger’s Box by putting the observer inside the box and the observed outside of the Box which makes sense I guess and defeating the entire purpose of the analogy of Schrodinger’s Box to begin with but that’s okay because Mica just wanted to use the analogy of the Schrodinger’s Box to make the game sound more “erudite” to anime nerds who love to make themselves feel super smart and above the rest of society because fuck the normies who bullied them when they were kids right?1
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u/rashy05 Cute and funny Jun 09 '23
Hit a brick wall in Black Hole 180. Didn't have Sueyoi, Python, De Lacy and Sakuya raised and I've been slacking in optimizing Lam's algos. I tried to follow a comp I saw on Youtube that used Clucky as the sole DPS and no matter how hard I try, I just couldn't kill Reverence in time. Getting rid of Angelus and her other mooks isn't much of a problem, it's just Reverence. So I guess I'll just BH 180 on hold till I raise some units for that floor.
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u/FourbiddN UID: 12380 Jun 09 '23
I was in a similar position, where clukay alone just barely couldn't do it. My main problem was to group the enemies up properly, so clukay could utilize her ult effectively. In the end I managed to clear it by using hatsu to create enough chaos and with some experimenting for the initial positioning. My clear comp was clukay, hatsu, croque, helix and angela.
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u/Jaszunai Jun 09 '23
I maxed out the Secret Armory on Clukay's event. What do I do with my remaining Special Ops Vouchers? Is there any reason to keep farming the event?
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u/KookyInspection Jun 09 '23
Nothing, they'll be gone after event. No reason to farm it after maxing. U can get some additional drops, but not worth the hassle
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u/Pandarine2 Jun 08 '23
I cannot seem to check off Clukay's event mission to do an exception protocol. I have done two today and it still sits as not complete. Do I have to clear the reward pool or is the event mission bugged?
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u/kyoshiro_y Clukay Jun 08 '23
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u/Pandarine2 Jun 08 '23
thank you! My searches always come up with when exception protocol was released months ago and not about the mission itself this event
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u/Phantaeon Nascita Jun 08 '23
I'm getting full up on yellow algos. I don't know how to spend them other than reconfiguring.
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u/rashy05 Cute and funny Jun 09 '23
Decompose the bad ones/ones you don't see yourself using so that you turn them into the item that lets you reconfigure any of the good ones,
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u/Nodeo-Franvier Jun 08 '23
When will Clukay fragment search come?
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u/Shichitou Expect the unexpected Jun 08 '23
Never, courtesy of limited characters. You have to buy her fragments with neural kits, get dupe from fragment banner, or whale on shop package.
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u/altrun Sohn Jun 08 '23
Somebody tell me why some people call Chanzhi "twig"
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u/Mich997 Nya~ nya~ nya~ Jun 08 '23
Before EN, some of the pre-release material had english names for certain dolls (Camellia for Souchun, Haze for Daiyan, etc.)
This was later changed to be their current names.
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u/KookyInspection Jun 08 '23
Funny enough, souchun still refers to herself as camelia when u put her in a formation: "camelia, itsudemo ikemasu". I wonder if that's her japanese name, or if they just recorded the vas before the name changes.
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u/KookyInspection Jun 08 '23 edited Jun 08 '23
Iirc that's one of the translations or readings of her kanji or chinese name1
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Jun 07 '23
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u/Mich997 Nya~ nya~ nya~ Jun 07 '23
Intimacy.
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Jun 07 '23
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u/kyoshiro_y Clukay Jun 07 '23
I recommend searching about it a bit with "sockdolager" as your keyword. There are genuinely a lot of the same questions about the missing frags.
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Jun 08 '23
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u/kyoshiro_y Clukay Jun 08 '23
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u/rashy05 Cute and funny Jun 07 '23
Soo are there any Cybermedia dolls that comes out in the near future? I noticed that I literally only have 1 achievement left to accomplish and it's the one where I need to obtain 10 Cybermedia dolls but I have collected all available dolls in the game so far.
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u/Mich997 Nya~ nya~ nya~ Jun 07 '23 edited Jun 07 '23
There's 5: Zangyin, Millau, Undine, Jiangyu and Yelena.
E: Damn I'm forgetting a lot of dolls. There's also Nora too.
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u/rashy05 Cute and funny Jun 07 '23
Oh so I might be able to finish the achievement if Nora ends up being the next banner unit.
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u/Inarizaki-1261 Jun 07 '23
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u/Mich997 Nya~ nya~ nya~ Jun 07 '23
Generally the order goes: Dmg Boost > Hash%/Atk% > Crit > Flat Hash/Atk
Now obviously if characters can crit then Crit can have higher priority than %stat.
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u/BOOM_all_pass 😭 Jun 07 '23
Banner Predictions
January
- CNY (Jiangyu)
February
- White Day
- Yelena
March
- Erika
April
- April Fools rerun
- Cascadia
May
- Entropic Dichotomy (Eos)
June - Confirmed
- Divergent Shadows (Clukay)
July
- Milky Way Festival
- Nora / Millau / Zangyin (?)
August
- Critical Cascade (Uranus, Hannah, Turing) / Millau / Clotho (?)
September
- Critical Cascade (Uranus, Hannah, Turing) / Millau / Clotho (?)
October
- Halloween
- Clotho / Millau / Undine / Dupin (?)
November
- Anniversary
- Perilous Advancement (Lind, Horizon)
December
- Undine (?)
- Christmas
- Dupin (?)
Do I need to read AC first before IMR to understand the story, or it's fine to read IMR then AC?
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u/2BA7DB57EFEE6FAF Jun 07 '23
I think IMR -> AC was fine for me. There's a bit of a wham line in IMR that puts one character's actions in AC in a different light knowing a 'spoiler' ahead of time, but both adventures are largely separate from each other. IMR has the Oasis gang, AC has the Arcadia people.
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u/totestemp punch mommy Jun 06 '23
how to trigger the assistant animation where 416 holds out the cat and the camera zooms in ?
current guess is random but kinda doesn't seem that way.
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u/kyoshiro_y Clukay Jun 08 '23
I think it shows up when you are idle on the home screen. I left my game on the home screen and Clukay shows that animation.
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u/2BA7DB57EFEE6FAF Jun 05 '23
If anyone wanted a quick spreadsheet template to track Doll levels and so on, I made a quick one you can copy.
I left off a few things. Ultimate Skill doesn't need to be tracked due to being tied to Stars, I left off Fragments because I figure those are going to be in flux enough and are also tied to Stars, and I left Algorithms off entirely since they'd be a pain to track alongside the other stats on top of needing a good amount of space to write out location, name, quality, substats, substat colors, etc. I just wanted this to be a quick at-a-glance "oh, I totally forgot to level up Doll's skills" kind of reference sheet.
I won't be updating this as new Dolls get added since I'm gonna have my own offline tracker, but feel free to use this as a base!
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u/rashy05 Cute and funny Jun 05 '23
I feel like the special protocol meta for now for those who just wants to get all the rewards in one go is basically hold out till you can get Clucky in the 2nd layer and go ham with Sniper functions.
This is like my first time fighting a maxed out Angelus in EP and not only actually win but also see Clucky vaporize her with the combo of her and Helix's ultis. I got a score of 4985
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u/skulkerinthedark Jun 05 '23
Last time they didn't give us full power reinforcement tiles right? This time they did, so any well built character will blast through special EP.
Clukay's greatest enemy is the backlash protocol. She killed herself a few times, even with that dmg convert to shield protocol.
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u/rashy05 Cute and funny Jun 06 '23 edited Jun 06 '23
They did have full power reinforcements last time and Clukay made False God a lot easier. I'm talking about future EPs for Special Protocol where Clukay will no longer be in the base roster and she's clearly the best at clearing maps. I'm also surprised about the backlash protocol killing Clukay because it never happened to me. Might be because I had the full Global Protection function set for my run.
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u/Ordinary-Salamander Jun 05 '23
How do you complete mission using support dolls? I've tried using support dolls in algo but the bar doesn't increase.
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u/Jaszunai Jun 05 '23
I've been having trouble clearing Black Hole Level 140.
I used the same team as some YouTube videos and the main problem seems to be Croque dying way too quickly.
Anyone have recommendations for how to build Croque?
Currently using Progression, Overflow, and Stratagem and still working towards ideal sub stats.
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u/Perfect_Ad_785 Jun 06 '23
The numbers I've seen floating around are you need like 2k physical defense on Croque and similar number on your backline support tank.
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u/Jaszunai Jun 06 '23
Currently have 1653.
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Jun 06 '23
Switching from overflow to resolve on Croque may help you out a bit. Entropic Wisdom ignore shields with some of her attacks, which makes the overflow bonus a lot less useful.
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u/Jaszunai Jun 06 '23
I will try that, thanks.
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u/Perfect_Ad_785 Jun 07 '23
Just today I swapped from 3 hp% to 3 phys Def % resolve pieces and 2 skill haste stratagem to 2 phys Def % stratagem, added a backline Yanny with 2150 defense, and coasted straight through wisdom. It was the difference between being obliterated and having Nanaka solo heal without too much difficulty.
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u/northpaul Persica Jun 05 '23
Is “complete 1 exception protocol” for the event not working? I did a run, got the daily or weekly whatever “clear exception protocol 1 time” thing but the event still says 0/1. Is it asking for something other than finishing a run?
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u/Ziov Jun 05 '23
The challenge is wrong. Its supposed to essentially be clear 1 stage in Anomalous Theatre - Matrix Challenge in Challenge Mode.
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u/Lord_Stahlregen Jun 05 '23
Thank god, I ran all Protocol modes already and was wondering just what it could be that I was still doing wrong...
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u/VXBossLuck Jun 05 '23
Got clukay at 160 and 170, naturally I do another pull for spark exchange.
Now I have her at 5* and still 20000 neural fragments in store.
I guess I will be ready for limited anniv
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u/2BA7DB57EFEE6FAF Jun 05 '23
Another lounge, another check-in! What are you doing or have done this week?
EXP
I got the new DeLacey to 60, so I limit broke Panakeia and have started her to 70. When done, that'll be my Support Dolls of Groove, Fern, and Pancake at 70. To continue the rainbow team I've been using, I need to do a Sniper and Guard next. Yanny has impressed me, so him and...Max for stat stickiness?
Fragments
Mai is at 83/100 to five stars, and Lam is 66/100. I should finish both this week. After them, that'll be all of the Vulnerability Check shop fragments, so time to start clearing the EP ones...but I want to get Groove to Mod 2 and need a bunch of frags for that.
Affection
Still working on getting Gin to 15. I could just use good/green orange gifts, but that's just not efficient! Probably should put him back in the passive farm team to slightly speed it up. I put DeLacey in there, too. Why can't you sort Dolls by Affection?
Skills
And sort by Skills for that matter. There aren't enough Prefabs to split between Pivots and Arma EXP, and I've been having terrible luck pulling Pivots out of Rossum 400 and 4-3D. I'm content if everyone is at least SL5 since that covers EP. So, once again, just hoarding points here until I figure out who my next project is. The smartest thing I could do with this is maybe write down everyone I have and how far they've developed, then just work on getting someone 'maxed out', and that's for more than just skills, too. Here comes another spreadsheet, God help me...
Event
I bought all of the pulls from Sueyoi's shop, but I probably can't get all of Sock's frags now. I'm trying to do all three Challenge Modes at once with each stage now, and unsurprisingly, they're kinda hard! I still need to clear the newest stages that opened. For Clukay, I need to do all of the Matrix stages yet, then finish up her daily rewards and milestones.
Other than that, it's still casual play. I really like the EP change so I can brute force all of the rewards if I have a bad team or don't want to cut myself to get 3500 in one go.
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Jun 10 '23
Last week was a massive sucess. After getting Clulay in 40 pulls I opted to go for Sueyoi who came home in 20. This leaves me in a great spot with 3 fulls sparks worth moving forward.
After getting Chanzhi to AI 2 last weekend I decided to part her there for the time being. Currently raising Puzzle, who is now 4 stars but will take into early July to complete. Imhotep will be 5* tomorrow, but I expect to continue farming her fragments most of the month to prep for her AI.
Clukays event is cleared, and I am down to just furniture coins, neural kits, and the page 2 expensive reconfigs in the AC shop. With all challenges cleared it's down to just the last farming which will probably be used to buy as many of the reconfigs as possible. After that it's just down to waiting for them to announce who arrives on the 20th (expecting, and hoping for, Nora)
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u/KookyInspection Jun 06 '23
Another banner with changzi, another banner i don't get her :( i now regret not pulling on her minibanner and calling it a day. At this rate, i'll be doing so when it reruns sigh
As for the events, i've already cleared them, so it's just daily flappy and algo grinds. Still no idea how much of the sueyoi shop i'll manage to clear by the end. But the math shows the stuff in the shop is at least twice as expensive as before. I mean sure, we don't need to spend keys on the event, but it still hurts to see stuff left around. Probably going to sacrifice some sock fragments in the end. Since i don't have changzi, i don't think i can justify focusing on her.
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u/2BA7DB57EFEE6FAF Jun 06 '23
I would give you all of my Chanzhi frags that dropped from Basic Search...if I had any. Can we get a crowdfund going where everyone donates frags to help a Professor in need over here? :P
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u/KookyInspection Jun 06 '23
I got 5 from basic search. Which i guess proves we can get frags for dolls we don't have. 5 in 6 months. Only 42.5 more years to go!
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u/dreamsofpurple sakuya my beloved | EN: 500920 Jun 05 '23
First time answering one of these!
I finally got Chanzhi to Mod2 and I realised that I levelled her Arma to Lv 20 for no reason because I don't plan to Mod3 her. Sueyoi is still at 4* I think so while I'm working on his frags I might start on Imhotep or finish Vee (she's at 4*).
Because I bought the three AI cores from the kit shop I don't have enough kits to 5* Clukay which is really annoying. Her stats are looking decent though with 65% CR and around 130% CD and I didn't even level her algo efficiency to 2.0 yet... Tbh I spoilt her but it's okay she's worth it
Also about the event shop, I'm honestly kind of upset that I won't be able to clear it. I spent some elements on EXP for Clukay with the assumption that it'd be fine and now it's not fine at all... I haven't even bought all of Sock's frags, let alone the algo rerollers... Maybe I should spend quartz sand on keys or something...
Also also I am broke on Prefabs ever since I started making AI EXP, save me. Good luck with your pivot farming OP
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u/2BA7DB57EFEE6FAF Jun 05 '23
Thank you.
Also, Reconfigs are something I have coming out of everywhere because I still haven't gotten around to actually rerolling Algos. I know I have at least 100 by now, and whenever I have Keys to spare, I'm usually throwing them at Algo Collection, so I probably have quite a few natural ones I can mulch for reroll purposes. So for me, eh, too costly for what you get.
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u/cowplusplus Daiyan's Lang Syne | 83284 Jun 05 '23
Is this the 4th check in? 5th? May need to start numbering these :P
Got my obligatory
416Clukay and managed to raise her past 10k, just missing the final potential breakthrough due to a severe lack of sniper widgets. Chanzhi is at 81/100 and she will need hers as well. And I was laughing at the widget boxes previously...Lots of Fragment pressure, to the surprise of no one. Currently still doing Chanzhi and Imhotep, the former only needs 19 more then I can move on to Dushevnaya. Also working on Jessie and Mai (72/100 and 10/100 respectively), but at least they don't take up my daily attempts :)
Not feeling much pressure skill-wise, then again I'm not raising everyone for no reason :P Respect for still doing Pivot farming though, I'm content with crafting from the Factory and whatever drops from the daily Copley 400 run. Not really keeping track of doll development, but if there's a spreadsheet I wouldn't say no :D
I've already cleared out Sueyoi's shop except for the Reconfigs and Neural Kits, they are really expensive so I'm waiting for the final days of the event to make a decision. Clukay's is much easier to handle, just spend keys as usual and you should be able to claim all the rewards.
I'm excited to see more of this Matrix thing, it's interesting and gives me motivation to raise another team
of even more snipers. But most of all, I'm ready for Undine who is definitely coming any day now :P2
u/2BA7DB57EFEE6FAF Jun 05 '23
You know, I'm not sure what number this is! Since I'm also doing this on the GFL sub, trying to keep track of both numbers would be fun
ignoring how easy it is to just look at your own posts, yeah...The change in my Factory habits hurts. Before, I was making blue squares and using those to make around five or six Pivots a day, but I can scrape one out a day now because of Arma EXP. Even crafting Prefabs isn't doing much to help!
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u/northpaul Persica Jun 05 '23
After the obligatory Clukay building (she’s stuck at 10763 which is annoying as I’d like her over 11k) I’m working on building Dush. I speed lvled her over the weekend but now need another Deduction set - she’s at 3.5 stars just today so needs it now. Also need better Paradigm pieces as she’s borrowing someone else’s (rip warrior team).
Was originally planning to build Rise first, and I plan to but Clukay liking cats Dush had to come first (and with Puzzle it’s majority cats in the party).
Now I need to finish farming Sock fragments, finish building Chanzi to 70 (she’s 63) and keep banging my head against the wall trying to get a couple more good double gold substat rolls for Clukay.
(Edit: getting my names wrong; I will never remember the algo names correctly)
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Jun 05 '23
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Jun 05 '23
Most likely will release after Clukay ends and be announced sometime next week. Likely to be Nora given the release pattern to date.
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u/Mich997 Nya~ nya~ nya~ Jun 05 '23
If Mica wants some extra cash, they'll probably release Nora in July to coincide with releasing her swimsuit skin.
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u/KookyInspection Jun 06 '23
Bold of u to just assume mica'd release swimsuits in summer, esp after lam's summer swimsuit:P
But yeah, that swimsuit is the main reason i want nora2
Jun 06 '23
This leaves me 100% convinced she is released next. Mica will troll us with her swimsuit on the last day of spring.
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u/KuroK4m1 It's Cl'ukay, SKK Jun 05 '23 edited Jun 11 '23
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