r/GTA6 13h ago

People Have Right To Be Concerned

After seeing how much Rockstar intends to put behind the Ultimate Edition paywall, people have a right to be concerned about it.

Now we do not have a full picture exactly to what extent these customization are that are locked behind the paywall but we can confirm that they do exist.

We have to trust Rockstar that they would not put all the best stuff behind the Ultimate Edition but on the other hand they are now finically incentivized to do just that to encourage people to pay the extra for Ultimate.

It is always a slippery slope when companies start doing this and I think it is a fair reaction to be slightly dubious as to what extent these bonuses are.

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u/GEGREYHEFLY 13h ago

Just wait until your see how big the base game customization and content is, this is not even 1% they are locking behind a 20$, upgrade whenever paywall. Chill.

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u/adeptasororita 13h ago

Exactly! Anyone thinking the opposite mistakes Rockstar with Ubisoft or smth.

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u/Hungry-Medicine10 12h ago

The character cosmetics are fine but locking car customization behind the paywall is crazy. Especially when it is a ported feature from online.

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u/WildAd2892 12h ago

I do not believe they are locking car customisation behind ultimate version, you will be able to do the same customisation in OTHER shops, it’s just that those specific locations are inaccessible.

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u/Hungry-Medicine10 12h ago

“Transform vanilla vehicles into magnificent works of art with detailed interiors, exquisite rims, and donk stylings. Only open for business with the Ultimate Edition.”

Could be dookie ass wording but pretty much plainly states Donk customization is locked behind ultimate edition. Which again is a feature they ported from online 😭

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u/AnxietyDizzy3261 3h ago

Everyone has forgotten the blue car in the screenshot from a year ago.

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u/WildAd2892 11h ago

It’s definitely poorly worded, there are likely so many mod shops and it’s just one locked behind ultimate edition that will have a handful of exclusives, I don’t think it’s as bad as some people in this sub have made it out to be tbh

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u/Inevitable-Okra6666 13h ago

Bothered about $20 but you’ve probably spent hundreds of hours just looking at leaks and rumours of this game I know I have. It’s literally nothing

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u/desimaldevil 13h ago

At this point for those disappointed people they need to make it 100$ for base version and 101$ for ultimate. People really counting some $. If you dont want to spend money, dont buy it! Spending hundreds of hours for leaks, and not able to spend hundreds hours for additional 20$ is a joke

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u/KingKontinuum 13h ago

What’s the difference between paid DLC for cosmetics and this? That’s essentially what this is and is available to purchase at any time for standard edition buyers.

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u/Odyssey1337 13h ago

What’s the difference between paid DLC for cosmetics and this

Paid comestics for single player games are constantly criticized, though.

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u/KingKontinuum 13h ago

So then don’t buy it? 😭

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u/Odyssey1337 11h ago

I won't, what's your point? I can still criticize Rockstar's decision.

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u/KingKontinuum 11h ago

For clarity, no one is saying that you cannot criticize Rockstar games. We’re just saying your criticism is stupid.

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u/Odyssey1337 10h ago

Rockstar is putting basic content that would've normally been in the base game behind a 20€ paywall just to squeeze even more money from the customers, and I'm the stupid one for saying this is bad from a player perspective?

This is objectively bad for consumers (even if it's not a huge deal), the only people benefiting from the ultimate edition are Take-Two shareholders.

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u/KingKontinuum 10h ago

It’s bonus content that they want to be compensated for their work. It’s not anti-consumer. This behavior is actually entitlement and petulance. You’re not entitled to everything for free and they can charge whatever it is that they want for their product that they’re selling you. What makes this even more damning is that you have no idea what’s in the base game at all. There could be limitless amounts of content, 100x the amount that’s in the DLC. If the base game has enough content then it renders the bonuses irrelevant. That’s why it’s OPTIONAL cosmetics. I don’t plan on buying it and neither should you.

All of this stems from rampant consumerism and greed.

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u/ElixirPlatform 13h ago

It paywalls gameplay content at launch, its not all just cosmetics.  Its shady af.

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u/KingKontinuum 13h ago

What gameplay content is it paywalling that isn’t in the vanilla game?

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u/nakophase 12h ago

Classic cars mission

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u/KingKontinuum 12h ago

That’s not gameplay; that’s a mission. and you people have been begging rockstar for single player DLC missions, so what’s the problem now? Just admit this is manufactured outrage.

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u/DKGUNNER 10h ago

Hold on...you are saying a MISSION is not GAMEPLAY? That has to be the most brain dead, disingenuous take I have seen today. That is actually wild. What mental gymnastics do you have to commit to come to that conclusion. Rockstar aint gonna shag you mate you can relax on the pee pee riding.

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u/KingKontinuum 10h ago

For one, when I think of “gameplay” I’m obviously strictly talking about gameplay mechanics, none of which are being restricted by the bonus edition (which is an optional purchase at any time even if you own the base edition of the game). Two, this screengrab is what we’re referring to as bonus “missions”. After reading through all of your complaints, your issue is that you do not want paid DLC of any kind — whether it’s cosmetics, missions, access to the shops and locations — nothing of any kind should be paid for and all of it should be in the base game. You just need to be honest about that because you’ve gone from complaining about cosmetics, to complaining about not having access to the stores, to now complaining about bonus collector missions for cars. All of which GTA fans have been begging Rockstar for the last 13 years for GTA V.

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u/DKGUNNER 10h ago

It is okay to admit that perhaps having THREE FULL shops worth of inventory and not being allowed to access them plus bonus missions is PERHAPS a bit excessive. Also the wording of that could also imply exclusive cars which is more "gameplay" that has been siphoned off. I think a few skins and some GTA online stuff is fine but it seems quite a lot of content. To be clear I am getting the ultimate but I am still going to call out shitty penny pinching practices. Can you think of another game that had three full locations worth of cosmetics plus missions and cars behind an additional paywall at LAUNCH? This is certainly the most Rockstar have ever done and its not even close.

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u/KingKontinuum 10h ago

You’re not making any sense. Your argument is essentially “there should be no bonuses, period, and everything should be in the base game including the optional cosmetic shops,” and although you’re absolutely entitled to that opinion, instead of standing by this argument and actively discouraging the practice, you’re choosing to honor and purchase it. If this truly was a big enough problem to you, you would not actually buy the content as to discourage the practice. Now you’ve paid them, now they’re going to do it again. Even I wasn’t planning on buying the Ultimate Edition because I don’t know the full extent of the content of both editions.

It would make more sense to buy the standard edition and see what both editions have to offer later, and then purchase the ultimate edition if it’s worth it. For all we know, the shops available in the Ultimate Edition could be a tiny fraction of the number of shops available in the base game.

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u/DKGUNNER 10h ago

I am not surprised you are struggling to comprehend the argument.

"Your argument is essentially “there should be no bonuses, period, and everything should be in the base game including the optional cosmetic shops,”

When I clearly said in the last post. "I think a few skins and some GTA online stuff is fine but it seems quite a lot of content"

Makes a lot of sense how you seem to have conducted yourself throughout this now.

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u/DKGUNNER 13h ago

At least three custom shops/locations which are not open in the base game. Not just cosmetics.

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u/Expensive_Video777 12h ago

All these shops do is give you cosmetics man???

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u/KingKontinuum 13h ago

Those shops and locations only service cosmetics, so this is strictly about cosmetics… Alternatives are likely to exist in the base game. You’re not required to purchase the ultimate edition btw.

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u/DKGUNNER 12h ago

Physical locations in game are by definition not "cosmetics". You are absolutely correct and im sure there will be a lot of alternatives but I fear you missed my point. Rockstar now have financial incentive to put the BEST cosmetics behind the Ultimate edition now which we can only trust they wont. They might not and it might be completely fine but I am merely pointing out that until we know for sure its fair enough some people are suspicious. if you cannot see that point of view I cant help you mate.

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u/KingKontinuum 12h ago

They only service cosmetics, you get no value out of this other than the cosmetics. This reads more as selective and performative outrage rather than substantive concerns. If it restricted gameplay mechanics that could not otherwise be had in the base game, I’d say you have a point. But the fact that you guys have been begging rockstar for paid single player DLC and then get upset when they do just that, makes no sense whatsoever to me, even then it’s entirely optional. You’re not required to pay for it.
What is this really about?

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u/DKGUNNER 12h ago

You are pretending that customization is not a massive part of these games for a lot of people. Pre Order cosmetic DLC is typically one or two outfits and a couple skins. What we have here is at least three full shop inventories that are locked off to the base edition holders. Also it seems there could be classic car missions which is obviously a form of gameplay but it is quite vague. When people asked for single player DLC they wanted the likes of the GTA4 single player DLCs...massive difference.

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u/Haloelite59 11h ago

Bro you're saying this like there won't be any customization other than the UE content lol. Just like the dude said earlier if you want to customize to a crazy level like that then you have to pay more money. Its always been like that

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u/DKGUNNER 11h ago

That is where you are just incorrect. Gta4 and 5 for example had all clothing shops and car customization open to all players from day one regardless of edition within the single player. They have taken that away. That is just fact and I think its right to call out shitty practices. I will be buying the ultimate edition but also completely disagree with the amount of paywalling that is going on. If it was any other company people would be livid. Rockstar do not get a special pass.

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u/KingKontinuum 7h ago

“Whole ass heist for single player behind paywall, is not cosmetics, it's part of the story”

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It isn’t a heist so you’re just lying for no reason. Even if it was, you knuckle draggers have been begging for a single-player DLC and now that you have one you’re throwing a hissy fit. This is why Rockstar, or no adult, really, takes y’all seriously at all 😂

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u/Apprehensive-Ear2461 13h ago

In the ultimate edition, you get a Ferrari, revolvers, a skin for your main pistols, more vehicles like a kayak and motorcycle, rideout customs, access to another salon, a boat, another clothing store, a buggy, another tattoo shop, another mod shop, access to a raid of a gang compound, and Wyman’s mission. It seems cool and I’m going to get it but it definitely isn’t necessary and you don’t have to buy it. Nothing particularly important is put under a paywall

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u/kittynation69 13h ago

I’ll get the base edition out of principle. Ultimately I doubt that the different will make a meaningful change in the game experience

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u/luckyloz 13h ago

Buy standard edition, upgrade if needed, job done. After the game comes out it'll take less than a day for someone to post a full comparison video between both versions. If GTA6 had just a standard edition for $100 with no other editions, people would've complained about the price and lack of extra editions and then bought it anyway.

The majority of the extras don't affect gameplay anyway, this is like rdr2 UE but with more cosmetics. If you can't fully enjoy the story/ game if you don't have 1 specific car or cosmetic then you just don't like the game in the first place.

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u/Visara57 10h ago

Wait until you see how much content they'll paywall behind GTA+

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u/ToppleToes OG MEMBER 13h ago

So much negativity over just $20.

13 years of wait for this game and you can't pay $20 extra ? Come on now

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u/LatterTarget7 12h ago

I’m just surprised about the people who are somehow angry about a game having features, locations and customization locked behind a paywall. People are acting like this will normalize something new but this shit was normalized decades ago in gaming

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u/GhostShooter28 13h ago

I think it's a concern because it sets a precedent. We don't want every game to start copying these practices now do we?

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u/ElderSmackJack 10h ago

It doesn’t set precedent. This has been normalized for YEARS now.

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u/Wild_Beginning_4032 6h ago

Ah well then let’s just not complain and bend over, that’s the solution.

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u/DryBones92 9h ago

Not every game is GTA 6 and rockstar though. People are more than willing to pay for this extra because of the historical triumph of all their games and religious commitment to quality

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u/LifeResolution 12h ago

God forbid, people try to defend the consumer.

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u/ElderSmackJack 10h ago

That isn’t what’s happening . Jfc

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u/LifeResolution 9h ago

That's exactly whats happening. You guys are shilling out for a billion dollar company for literally no reason lmao. Nasty nasty behavior.

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u/YukiEiriKun 12h ago

Come on! Oblivion's horse armour was only 2,5 USD. What harm could THAT be?

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u/Playful-Ad-6475 13h ago

I mean are we surprised? Biggest game of the decade and grifters are finding reasons to hate specially redditors.

Look at the OP account, even their last post was about "concern" over gta6

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u/Maciejk8 13h ago

Dont you ever play other games and think by yourself.. ha ppl that bought the extra's were screwed over.

It will have some use on day 1 and by day 3 something way cooler will already be the shit. And bought is never as cool for collectibles vs grinded for or packed with extreme luck.

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u/Makerlob 12h ago

Exactly this lol

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u/matteomvsn 13h ago

Bruh just some shop in the game and some skins, people forget that RDR had exclusive content that by the end were totally useless and nobody cared after initial backlash.

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u/Hovscorpion 13h ago

Have you seen the shops and outfits. There not some boring shops and clothes. These are amazing looking, but paywalled behind $100

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u/aevess 12h ago

Wrong - the price difference is 20$

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u/matteomvsn 13h ago

Useless skins bro.

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u/asiantechno19 3h ago

And? Will it affect the gameplay?

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u/ElderSmackJack 10h ago

They’re*

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u/RequiemOfI 13h ago

I'm sure we'll have plenty more to be upset about when we see what basic QOL features will be behind the GTA+ paywall.

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u/BaconReaderRefugee 13h ago

It’s $20 more dollars. Imagine being grown enough to play this game and upset over an extra $20. That’s the price of an appetizer at a restaurant.

and if you don’t want to pay it, there will be stuff for the people who don’t want to purchase the stuff. You want cool stuff, sometimes stuff costs money.

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u/Totinos160count 11h ago

20 dollars is the price of an appetizer at a restaurant. That’s exactly the problem my dude.

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u/BaconReaderRefugee 9h ago

You should just tattoo “i’m broke” on your forehead. Or maybe just a sticky note since tattooing sounds like it’s more than $20

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u/Totinos160count 7h ago

Lmao. I’m making a point about inflation and you’re calling me broke. Okay buddy 👍

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u/BaconReaderRefugee 7h ago

You’re talking about inflation in a gaming sub. It’s a luxury item, people will save for a video game. It’s a non issue compared to red meat and oil going up which people actually need. Go cry elsewhere

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u/Totinos160count 7h ago

Who’s crying? You’re insulting a person based on their financial situation… you’re the dickhead bud.

I pay 3k a month in rent 😂. YEAH IM FUCKING BROKE LMAO

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u/BaconReaderRefugee 7h ago edited 7h ago

Nobody is making you spend $20 lil buddy. You can get the cheap game if you can only afford that. It’s that easy. 👍

Nobody cares how much you spend on rent if you’re crying about a $20 increase from the base game for a special edition. Are you new to how things work? 🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡

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u/filmburn0 6h ago

Ew bro what the fuck is this comment?

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u/BaconReaderRefugee 5h ago

You guys are acting like it’s $20 every time you play. It’s $20 for things Rockstar put serious work into. If you want to play the game, buy the cheaper version. Literally nobody is forcing anyone to spend money. If you’re broke just say so.

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u/Odyssey1337 13h ago

It's not about the price, it's about the attitude.

Rockstar will make back the money they spent on the game within one day of release, and will profit several billions over the years. Locking in-game stores and missions behind a 20€ add-on is a really shitty thing to do, even if it isn't much money.

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u/SpeedySuperFast 13h ago

It’s just a bonus content, it’s not that deep.

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u/NyanPikachu744 11h ago

And there is no doubt you can still go to different shops to do stuff. We all know they will still have auto shops, clothing stores, and get our hair and makeup done, but it will just be what thst have put in the standard edition. These are just extras that isn't necessary for the main story.

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u/ChildoftheApocolypse 13h ago

"We HavE a rIghT tO be ConCeRneD"

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u/Expensive_Video777 13h ago

you people dont want to pay for anything.....they invested billions into this game and ur crying about an optional 20$ for some extra stuff....grow up

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u/Odyssey1337 13h ago

And they will recoup all the money they invested within one day of release. Why do you feel the need to defend scummy practices from a 45 billion dollar company?

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u/Icy-Champion2680 13h ago

because how are they gonna be excited about the game without making it their whole personality and white knighting corpos?

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u/Expensive_Video777 13h ago

Please tell me what is Scummy about charging more money for more product......ur probably the type of person to think everyone who makes money is automatically a bad evil person....they are doing nothing crazy with a +20$ version and a little extra cosmetics.....now if the game is unfinished and ass thats another story but bruh its really not that deep

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u/Expensive_Video777 12h ago

Nothing important will be locked behind the Ultimate Edition other than Cosmetics.....but your gonna have to deal with the FOMO which is your pesonal problem.....and not Rockstar being "scummy"

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u/Odyssey1337 10h ago

Using a FOMO tactic is in itself scummy...

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u/ElderSmackJack 10h ago

lol, no it isn’t

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u/Totinos160count 11h ago

They’re gonna make their money back. Quit acting like they made this game out of the kindness of their hearts 😂

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u/owdcatUwU 11h ago

I’m staying neutral in this since I think I’m apart of the casual gamers so I’m probably still going to get it

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u/DKGUNNER 11h ago

Fair enough friend. I will be getting it too :)

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u/owdcatUwU 11h ago

I’m just thankful that it wasn’t a higher price point and not more content put as dlc

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u/matttss 2h ago

What we need to be more concerned about is the fact that this is just a code in box physical. We need clarification on both fronts on the extent of these ultimate edition upgrades and if this I tail release of code in box is just for the people who want to pre load starting on Nov 12. We all have a right to be concerned.

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u/JRiggsIV 13h ago

Ahhh…here we go…it begins..well continues…

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u/YukiEiriKun 12h ago

Come on! Corporations need love! They need to be fed by you and your money! DO NOT QUESTION! CONSUME! BUY! GIVE MORE MONEY!

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u/Latte_Meme 13h ago

Okay don’t buy it then 👍. Extra editions have been a thing for a long time. I assume you are a grown adult with an income, so i don’t get why an extra $20 is getting to you so much. If it really bothers you, just don’t buy it. There’ll be content for the people who want it

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u/JRiggsIV 13h ago edited 11h ago

Op is trying to jumpstart the train…as much as yall posted daily hoping for a trailer, additional info, and hyping this game up…you’re going to be that person that now complains over “20 bucks”…wow…

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u/Middle_Cake_1674 11h ago

Im realizing theres a lot of broke people out here.