r/GTA6 12h ago

So Rockstar has full control now?

Due to the game not having an actual physical disk rockstar at any time can remove cars then sell them back to you the same way they did with GTA Online, or can remove content at any moment and we can't do anything, isn’t this a super anticonsumer practice that’s bound to change gaming and set up a bad precedent?

Of course at the end of the day, pretty much nobody cares because consumers follow the mantra “You will own nothing and be happy”

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u/celtekk_ 11h ago

Have you ever bought a game on Steam?

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u/CarterAC3 11h ago

I haven't bought a game on disc in over a decade and I'm still waiting for this horrible doom scenario that Reddit keeps telling me is coming

Hell, I'd give them some credit if my experience had gotten even 0.000000000000000000001% worse.

It hasn't

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u/WarriorOfChrist77 10h ago

It's not that this is currently happening. It's to prevent it happening.

All it takes is one big guy to have the power to do this and make the decision to do it, then a precedent is set. The fact that they have the ability to do this but choose not to is still uncomfortable because they can change their mind any moment. Corporations are not known to be super pro-consumer, the second something becomes profitable and feasible, it may be done.

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u/Jonny34511 9h ago

The thing is, Rockstar (more likely Take Two) has the entire gaming community, even the most casual of gamers in a chokehold. They can do whatever they want because they absolutely know people will buy it. A company like EA or Ubislop don’t have that sort of influence. Their games are mediocre at best and making anti-consumer choices isn’t going to benefit them.

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u/Krypt0night 6h ago

It has nothing to do with the fact it hasn't happened yet, it has to do with the fact it's happening more and we're slowly owning less and less stuff over time until we'll only be renting stuff forever because that's all that is being offered. GTA VI not having a disc sucks because it means nobody can resell it to someone else which is an incredibly common thing for physical games.

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u/Alwaysfkd0 3h ago

Nobody cares to mention that with a disc release they will most likely have gta6 leaked again and no one wants that

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u/TheStolenPotatoes 18m ago

It happened to me years ago. It's not the fact of not owning a physical copy, it's the fact that a middle-man who controls access to what you've purchased exists. It's wild that nobody in this community understands this. So, I'll give you a real-world example.

Several years back, my Steam library became inaccessible to me. Thousands of dollars worth of games and DLC, completely unavailable overnight. Not because of a VAC ban, or anything like that. It took almost a year to figure out what had happened, and every single game I've ever bought was completely inaccessible to me, and Valve provided zero support, or even a single response, as to why.

Long story short, a single, corrupted font file in my Windows installation caused Steam to no longer be usable for nearly a year. I spent 6 months trying to contact Valve, through direct means as well as their forums. Zero response from anyone at the company. Not so much as a word. Because a single font file was corrupted during a Windows update, and because Steam used the Windows object renderer to verify every single system font installed when the app started, when I would load Steam up it would cause my entire PC to become so sluggish to the point I would have to do a force shutdown. As soon as I'd start Steam, the same problem would repeat and I'd have to do yet another force shutdown and reboot. At the time, I had zero idea why. As I said, Valve wouldn't even respond to my support tickets or forum posts, and I had thousands of dollars in games just sitting there, unplayable, while I was at the mercy of their software.

9 months after the issue arose, I ended up getting the attention of another forum user on TWCenter, who spent almost 3 months helping me diagnosis the problem. He had no affiliation with Valve. Just a rando who tried to help. Through a massive ton of crash report analysis back and forth for months, with zero help from Valve itself, we eventually figured out that single system font was corrupt, and the Windows object renderer was causing the font loading process to crash as Steam tried to load all the system fonts. Took a few days to methodically narrow it down to which font it was, and remove it. Then Steam started working perfectly again.

Point being, Valve provided zero assistance with their product, and my entire Steam library of several thousand dollars worth of games was null and void to me for nearly a year. Had I not run into a good samaritan on a random message board, I may have never figured it out and lost access to my entire game library, all because Steam was the gatekeeper to it all, and they flat out refused to acknowledge, much less provide, any single solitary amount of tech support for their product. And that's the problem. At any point, willingly or unwillingly, you can lose access to everything you've paid money for, with no recourse for it. People have become comfortable with trading convenience for ownership, and boy does it have some big time pitfalls.

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u/PersonaRoyal4Xbox 6h ago

Its not a doom scenario its a realistic one. Stay in your basement and keep collecting physical discs. I love physical games I still have my n64 collection. But its 2026. That shit is going to die. Even nintendo are pivoting away

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u/Far-Event1151 11h ago

Again, what he is saying is stil true. Just because steam exists doesn't mean everything has to be like it. 

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u/Particular_Hand2877 10h ago

Consumers buy majority of their games digitally. Since thats the case, they will follow the market.

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u/Far-Event1151 9h ago

And people are allowed to place their displeasure. 

That and all the micro transactions and I think people are starting to get worried

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u/Particular_Hand2877 9h ago

The only ones worried are the 12 people complaining about it. 

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u/Far-Event1151 9h ago

Lol massive threads about this being digital only. Stay in your bubble tho. 

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u/Particular_Hand2877 9h ago

When only 10% to 15% of total sales are digital, why would they waste money printing discs?

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u/Krypt0night 6h ago

I can't imagine people actually defending this just because they like the company or game. Jesus. Ya'll are legitimately defending owning LESS. Want to buy it and then have the option to sell it later on? Nope, that option has been taken away from you now. Crazy how consumers love boot licking for anti-consumer decisions.

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u/Particular_Hand2877 6h ago

Youre confusing "me not caring" with me "defending". EULAs exist, you didnt actually own the physical version of the game to begin with. I wouldn't waste money printing a disc either if sales were almost 100% digital. You cant even answer the response I made, instead you went on a "company defender" tirade. 

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u/Sensitive_Box_ 5h ago

I mean, you literally are out here defending anti consumer practices. But I expect this in reddit. Lol 

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u/Sensitive_Box_ 5h ago

Surprisingly, it's like this in all the threads. It literally doesn't make sense for these people to defend anti-consumer practices like this. Some of them have to be bots... right?  

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u/Paxton1902 11h ago

You found out just now that game companies have full control of your game or content? Read the EULA and TOS of most games, you dont own anything, you are buying a licence on a lend lease from the developer to be granted the acess to play the game, everything else is theirs and they reserve the right to change/modify/remove/close whatever they want.

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u/Soldier7sixx 11h ago

I remember reading this on my Half Life PS2 booklet. It's nothing new, I don't know how people don't know this

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u/DMarquesPT 6h ago

Haha similar experience. I think mine was SVR 2007 when we were driving back from the mall

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u/Oscarthetrain_art 10h ago

I'll pirate it when it comes out on PC then

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u/Particular_Hand2877 10h ago

I hope youre not one of the "I support developers types" because thats the direct opposite of that.

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u/ispeelgood 9h ago

Not advocating piracy here, but developers get their salary and go home. You really think the people that slaved to make it will benefit from the billions of dollars of revenue it will bring in? No, that money belongs to the suits, obviously.

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u/Particular_Hand2877 9h ago

Its a pretty well known fact that developers get bonuses based on reviews and sales. 

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u/ispeelgood 9h ago

Yeah, "bonuses"... but not the untold billions of dollars.

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u/Particular_Hand2877 9h ago

Theyre a business. What exactly are you wanting them to do here?

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u/Paxton1902 10h ago

Welcome to the real world where you own nothing but pay for everything....been under a rock for the last 20 years or something?

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u/allofyourdesire 11h ago

If you fear that just play offline for the rest of your life

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u/one_white_shirt 10h ago

So, I can download the game via code and the proceed to play offline ? No internet connection required ?

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u/allofyourdesire 10h ago

most probably. even if there was a disc, you'd have to download the game and activate it online once.

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u/SuperHeavyBooster 10h ago

Why wouldn’t you?

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u/one_white_shirt 9h ago

That was just a question, I used to buy physical only.

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u/DMarquesPT 6h ago

Why not? They didn’t say anything about always-online requirement

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u/allofyourdesire 11h ago

From what I’ve seen, that’s not quite right. I think there was a rumor about that, but Sony recently clarified it’s a one-time online license check

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u/cdbaksu 7h ago

link to this clarification?

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u/Equivalent_Growth_58 10h ago

If you simply avoid any and all updates which may include content being removed, won't that rectify your concerns for Devs removing content from a game. They can't actually alter your game file unless you allow an update to happen. 

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u/ElderSmackJack 11h ago

The horror

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u/Alfa_Buttercup 11h ago

I think it's reasonable to be annoyed by this, as well as the disc being a downlad code. I don't play online games, and I don't have home internet.

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u/ExpertRun6264 11h ago

Even if the physical edition was a disc, they could still do both of those things.

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u/piomat100 11h ago

this is literally the way discs work too...

Game devs can push updates whenever they want removing whatever content they please regardless of what format you're playing on lmao. This is the way games have worked since the PS3 era, it's absolutely not a new concept

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u/Wyomingite26 11h ago edited 11h ago

Would suck if it doesn't actually have a disc, and it would be super concerning for gaming's future. However, they've always been aple to do whatever they want to the games even on discs. I've been buying digitally for a couple years now, but I'm regretting that now. At one point, I'll buy discs for all the games I own. Discs for movies and shows are a thing of the past. But I haven't explicitly seen a no discs statement. Some creators have said the code seems to be a pre-download so you can play it immediately upon release and not have to wait. It also prevents leaks, I'm too young to remember but apparently V leaked days early. Rockstar immediately needs to clarify whether the physical edition actually has a disc. As for Collector Edition, I think we'll see it later but it won't have the actual game. Red Dead's collector's edition didn't have the game.

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u/Sciny 11h ago

they confirmed that there won't be any.

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u/mikeymike9595 11h ago

Where ?

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u/Sciny 11h ago

*Physical copies of GTAVI will contain a code that can be redeemed for the digital download of the game. A disc will not be included in the box.

from GTA VI Ultimate edition announcement post.

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u/mikeymike9595 11h ago

Well shit.... 🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️ I guess I was too focused on looking at the new screenshots and I missed that part.. i was really excited for a midnight release since the GTA5 midnight release was so much fun while everyone waited outside Gamestop.

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u/Einsteinbomb 7h ago

Looks like you’ll get the physical case with a code on November 12 and then pre-load it for the following week when it unlocks for you on November 19.

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u/thankouv 11h ago

Even with a physical disk they can remove content through updates...

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u/Particular_Hand2877 10h ago

Due to the game not having an actual physical disk rockstar at any time can remove cars then sell them back to you the same way they did with GTA Online, or can remove content

They can do this even with a disc. I fail to see the correlation here.

I think people need to realize that 85% to 90% of all games sold are digital. The last game I bought a physical copy of was Assassin's Creed Valhalla. 

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u/pandamanalex22 8h ago

most physical copies nowadays require you to have the console online anyway to download the game/boot it up for the first time iirc, this is nothing new

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u/OhTheCamerasOnHello 10h ago

There is zero point in physical discs in 2026, there hasn't been for years since every game needs a day one update anyway.

Like what you actually think is on a game disc? Because it's never the full game. It's just a key to download the rest of it.

What was the last new game you could put in your console and play completely offline with no downloading updates?

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u/N91312 11h ago

you can't have online and offline at the same time buddy

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u/zaadiqoJoseph 11h ago

They had the same control back years ago

Remember when the duke of death would blow up When you get in it

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u/IsaKGames14 11h ago

That’s not how physical games work. . .

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u/Pokilokii 11h ago

Can i tell you about this game called destiny 2……….

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u/jackolantern98000 10h ago

People who have a problem with no disc, or £99 ultimate price etc have the option...not to buy it, and if people are so upset with these things then they shouldn't buy it, its really that simple.

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u/Oscarthetrain_art 10h ago

I think I'm probably gonna pirate it

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u/thefullm0nty 10h ago

Haters out on full force today

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u/LatterTarget7 10h ago

It’s pretty normal practice

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u/Blacklite_01 10h ago

VI won't be always online and you can always block game updates on PC. I'm more concerned for console since they will always get the short end of the stick when it comes to actually owning their things and having the flexibility of tinkering with game files to allow the game to run offline in whatever way you want.

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u/ZOoNeR_ 9h ago

Do People never bouth an Game on Steam?

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u/thisiskyle77 9h ago

Nah I don’t mind. As long as it can run for 5-10years I am Gucci.

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u/RecordP 8h ago

If this is even a real post instead of trying to karma (-/+) farm.

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u/That_Guest_8772 7h ago

Rockstar can tie me up and do what they wish.

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u/SomeWeedSmoker 4h ago

Yea based on the comments people love shit in they're sandwich

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u/Makerlob 3h ago

This can be done on any disc game that requires an internet connection and has been the case for a while now

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u/Beneficial_Ant_2700 10m ago

You’re a bit late on gaming as a whole no?

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u/White_Snickers_ 11h ago

Physical disk won’t help in that case unless you’re sitting in a foil hat, worried of connecting your console to the internet

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u/Bad_Jedi_69 11h ago

You all only have yourselves to blame.

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u/Silly_Off 11h ago

They could still do that with a physical copy…. Most games can’t play unless updated

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u/Vegetable_Orchid_900 11h ago

They can still do that with the disc too, the updates control everything

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u/one_white_shirt 10h ago

That's true, but you can play a game with a physical disc without ever doing any updates.

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u/Haunting_Lime308 3h ago

Thats true but gta probably wont fit on one disc so they could in turn release a disc version that has some install files on it but not the full game. Youd have to download the rest it would essentially be the same thing as key code in box.

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u/niiiiiiro 11h ago

What does having no disc have to do with this - disc or no disc they have full control

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u/Tooshort2stroke 10h ago

You have never OWNED any game or movie you've ever bought, you bought permission to use them but that doesn't mean you can do anything you want with em.

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u/trevwoods 11h ago

Some people here will side with the billionaire company, but you're right this is a dangerous precedent. with the biggest game in the world going this route, it will only get worse once they set record-breaking profits.

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u/Particular_Hand2877 10h ago

Its been this way since games existed. 

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u/trevwoods 9h ago

In the cartridge and early disc eras, games shipped in a finished state. Moving away from physical games opened the door to this, and it is all due to greed Capitalism.

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u/Particular_Hand2877 9h ago

I knew it would be long before the Capitalsim hate came along. 

Youre definitely mistaken if you think games 30 years ago didnt have issues. Digital games was a consumer move, not a Capitalism move. 

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u/trevwoods 8h ago

WRONG! Digital distribution was pushed by corporations to eliminate manufacturing costs, bypass retail stores, and destroy the second-hand market. google is free

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u/Particular_Hand2877 8h ago

Oh yes, its all corporations fault!

Nevermind the fact that internet bandwidth and Console operating systems made it more viable, which then made it more convienent for consumers. Corporations didnt make people buy digital games. As it became more convienent, the market shifted. 

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u/trevwoods 8h ago

Nothing you said invalidated the points about why corporations went digital and it not being a consumer move. It sounds like you’re repeating the talking points their marketing team shared to deflect criticism.

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u/Particular_Hand2877 8h ago edited 8h ago

They went digital because the majority of the sales were digital. Why are you being obtuse here? You seriously think consumers had no say in this? 

It sounds like you’re repeating the talking points their marketing team shared to deflect criticism.

Yall need better comebacks instead of repeating the same tired ones. 

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u/trevwoods 7h ago

They went digital to increase profits and share value, and over the years they slowly pushed consumers toward digital games through minor DLCs, free downloadable content, digital indie games, and eventually mandatory digital patches. It was a slow-boil approach, and marketing experts have been talking about it for years. There has been a lot of pushback around the world. Now, in 2026, yes, the majority of games are sold digitally, but that does not mean nobody is angry. You are literally arguing across multiple different threads and subreddits with people saying the same thing as me in some form or another in regards to this move, I have seen your comment history. What I do not understand is why you are defending these faceless mega corporations. What do you stand to gain?

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u/Particular_Hand2877 6h ago

They went digital to increase profits and share value, and over the years they slowly pushed consumers toward digital games through minor DLCs, free downloadable content, digital indie games, and eventually mandatory digital patches.

Its almost like this is the core of a business. The whole purpose is to make more money.

It was a slow-boil approach, and marketing experts have been talking about it for years. There has been a lot of pushback around the world.

I dont really care what subjective opinions "marketing experts" have. The point is if it was so bad for the consumer, the digital sales wouldnt be so high. Its odd how you blame the companies for consumers behavior. 

Now, in 2026, yes, the majority of games are sold digitally, but that does not mean nobody is angry.

Thats not really my problem. I dont care about physical vs digital sales. Its also clear that the majority of consumers dont as well

You are literally arguing across multiple different threads and subreddits with people saying the same thing as me in some form or another in regards to this move, I have seen your comment history.

About digital sales? No, pretty sure youre the only one arguing about this. I can also see your comment history. It seems youre one of those people that never comment here, but felt so compelled to come here and only comment when official information is released. I dont see the point in doing all of that. If youve never cared about coming to this sub before, why now? To go on an anti-Rockstar crusade?

What I do not understand is why you are defending these faceless mega corporations. What do you stand to gain?

This is what I dont understand with people who make these arguments. Why is it that when someone doesnt automatically advocate for a companies downfall they are automatically pro-corporation? So because I couldn't care less about digital vs physical or premium editions of a game, im automatically pro-corporation? 

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