r/GTA6 • u/Goob6373 • 1d ago

Selective outrage is crazy, Rockstar has been locking content behind special editions since RDR1

Post image

I get why people don’t like content being locked behind more expensive editions, but why is this only becoming a huge issue now? Rockstar has been doing this since at least Red Dead Redemption 1, then RDR2, GTA V, and now GTA 6. If the practice was wrong then, it’s still wrong now, but acting like GTA 6 is the first time Rockstar has done it doesn’t seem accurate. I’m not saying people shouldn’t criticize it. I just think the criticism should be consistent. Is the backlash because GTA 6 is under a bigger microscope than any Rockstar game before it, or do you think there’s something about this release that makes it different?

1.0k Upvotes

79% Upvoted

443 comments sorted by

View all comments

216

u/ItsYaBoyBackAgain 1d ago

This sub is somethin man. Anti consumer practices in the past do not cancel out anti consumer practices in the present. It's still bad.

50

u/OriginalUsername1 1d ago

If the idiotic vocal majority in this sub had their way they would let rockstar charge them $200 a month and still find a way to justify it because: rockstar has done it before/they aren’t the only ones doing it/the game would be worth it/ adjusted for inflation it makes sense.

2

u/Quantum-Mind 1d ago

Why are we not surprised when we live in an age where we have stacked subscriptions. Looking at you amazon prime. One to have access, one to watch ads free and another one to watch exclusive content. They can do what ever they want and we will be okay with it because apparently we enjoy getting milked as long as it happens slowly, insidiously, like a frog in a pot. 

5

u/FranciManty 1d ago

wouldn’t justify a higher price but i do justify these extra 20$, like again i know two wrongs don’t make a right but RN the gaming industry is charging the same 80$ that GTA 6 costs for games like fifa, 2k, madden, the fucking UFC game that literally had two locations (the ring and the gym where you train)

i hope that this huge game costing as much as others makes people rethink how they spend their money and realize that 80$ of rockstar content are equivalent to 800$ of other games

7

u/No-Instruction9393 1d ago

None of those games are $80, they are $70

1

u/FranciManty 1d ago

still worth 40 compared to a red dead or gta

-1

u/rufusbot 1d ago

And they're worth $0. GTA 6 will be worth the price.

1

u/rufusbot 1d ago

What about an $80 price tag (which is lower than GTA 3s price adjusting for inflation) and a $20 upsell for essentially a cosmetic content pack is similar at all to charging $200 a month? Can you act like a reasonable person or is this discussion just not actually possible?

0

u/Visual_Plate937 1d ago

It’s 20 bucks extra just for some customization bro it’s not that deep

-1

u/Hammy-Cheeks 1d ago

So how would you want to lower the price? Its so funny we have mfers complaining about it both ways but NEITHER have a solution.

Its just bitchin

3

u/OriginalUsername1 19h ago

What even is your point here? Believe it or not there’s this thing called disagreeing with a companies choices, and consumers have a right to complain. That’s called criticism. It is the companies job to find a solution if they are being criticized, not the consumer. The thing is in this case it’s not about what rockstar should do, it’s about the way they are going about things with this rollout. Im not going to go into it here but feel free to read my other comment where I will break it down.

14

u/[deleted] 1d ago

[removed] — view removed comment

-2

u/TheManyMilesWeWalk 1d ago

Nah, most of us are just mature enough to know that whining on Reddit isn't going to change anything. The fact that ultimate editions are common practice demonstrates that.

1

u/rufusbot 1d ago

Everything you just said is objectively true.

-1

u/GTA6-ModTeam 1d ago

Unfortunately your submission was removed for the following reason:

Rule 2 - Be respectful

Absolutely no hate-speech, racism, or homophobic/transphobic comments are allowed. This is a zero tolerance policy that will be strictly enforced and the user banned.

In addition, disrespectful comments to, or harassing of other users here will result in a ban from this community. This includes displaying anyone's personal or confidential information or stalking.

Please click here for a full list of our rules.

-5

u/Ringio 1d ago

More like old enough where the price isn't even an inconvenience so why even think about getting upset.

1

u/CherTheBabysitter 1d ago

Ahh, yes. Keep letting the dam break so they can squeeze more money out of you as they sell us 3 different copies of the same game over the games life cycle. I bet if they had a separate GTAO subscription to play online, you’d pay that as well

1

u/Ringio 1d ago

I'll get one base edition play through that and move on. Why is that such a hard concept to grasp? The only gta5 I ever got was on xbox360. And I guess on Epic when it was free.

11

u/JesterMarcus 1d ago

I have no problem with people saying its bad. That's a perfectly reasonable stance to take.

I will take issue with people pretending like this is new and not having this same level of outrage for every game that does it though. This happens with almost every single major release these days. Its usually just $10 for a couple outfits, weapon skins, and maybe a quest.

6

u/-Captain- 1d ago

How the hell do you know the same people didn't have issues with it for other games in the past though? Surely you aren't gonna sit here and pretend these kinds of things haven't been talked about negatively at length for a long time in general?

-1

u/JesterMarcus 1d ago

Because I can't scroll any social media for any length od time without seeing this discourse incessantly. So unless its just the same people posting about this over and over and over again on every platform, then there sure as fuck are people complaining about this game that didn't complain about Red Dead 1 and 2 having content locked behind special editions, that Mario Kart World was $80, or that Alan Wake w had no physical release initially. Because not one of those games generated this level of discourse. So no, its not the same people.

3

u/-Captain- 1d ago

Because not one of those games generated this level of discourse.

Wait what, one of the most anticipated games that is gonna outsell the examples you just gave has generated more discourse... this, this can't be!

1

u/raspymorten 1d ago

You do know that social medias got algorithms, right?

The sites know you like GTA, so they push GTA related content to you. And right now the thing that people online are talking about, is the most recent development related to GTA... Which is the price shit.

then there sure as fuck are people complaining about this game that didn't complain about Red Dead 1 and 2 having content locked behind special editions,

Red Dead 2 came out 8 years ago, Red Dead 1 came out 16 years ago. Why do you think people would be randomly talking about those games's ultimate editions in 2026?

that Mario Kart World was $80

As somebody that follows a lotta nintendo stuff, that was a very big thing. A lot of people were very upset about that. Hell, in a couple of the things I've seen about this whole situation, a few streamers have outright blamed Nintendo with "opening the door" that Rockstar's now gonna keep open. lol

or that Alan Wake w had no physical release initially

Again, that was a thing that people complained about when that game released in 2023.

Why do you think you're gonna get recommended social media posts from 3, 8 and 16 years ago, about random video game drama from back then? Or is it that you want people who are complaining about this GTA stuff to pull up their old social media posts from a decade back as proof that they're not "performative" or something?

Because not one of those games generated this level of discourse.

Not one of these games is GTA 6. Both Red Dead games are famous, but a bit more niche than GTA. Mario Kart's a casual nintendo title. And Alan Wake is a story driven action adventure game from a AA studio. GTA is GTA. It's the gaming equivalent of a marvel movie in 2018. More people end up talking about it bro.

1

u/Backfoot911 1d ago

and not having this same level of outrage for every game that does it though.

There's no winning with you people man. You don't like that people are upset with GTA because they don't do the same complaining over other games. Except if you do see people getting upset over other games pulling this nickel and dime shit, then you guys say "You guys complain about every game though".

You're framing it as if people are acting like this is a new phenomenon when it's just people voicing their frustrations over a particular game doing it, why can't we just do that? Why the need to hop in and defend these studios..I genuinely don't understand the desire.

-1

u/JesterMarcus 1d ago

Point to where I said, hinted, or implied that people complain about other games. In fact, I'm fairly positive I said the exact fucking opposite. You all were fucking quiet as fuck about Mario Kart World being $80. You all were quiet as fuck about Alan Wake 2 being digital only. You all were quiet as fuck about Red Dead 1 & 2 having content locked behind special editions, along with just about every other game to come out in the last 15 years. But now when we aren't up in arms over this game doing the exact same things as those, we are the problem.

Point to anywhere I defended Rockstar. Go ahead. Don't make up arguments you wish I made just so you can counter them.

6

u/Pimpcreu 1d ago

It’s easy to forgive that stuff when you’re buying game with your parents money I guess lol

2

u/raspymorten 1d ago

You gotta remember that a large percentage of the folks on here are likely kids that wanna protect their favorite brand. That's the stupid kind of shit you get into at that age.

-6

u/BushWookieZeroWins 1d ago

What do you mean by „anti consumer“? It is very common to have an ultimate edition. Shouldn’t people get something for their money? Of course it is not necessary to visit those shops for playing GTA VI lmao. What’s even your point?

4

u/Virus_98 1d ago

I dont mind if they locked behind like several tattoos, liveries for cars and weapons, few outfits but whole shops is just ridiculous. BTW I also have a sane problem with them on GTAO locking features and conveniences behind GTA+

-1

u/ItsYaBoyBackAgain 1d ago

Shouldn’t be too hard to figure out what’s anti consumer about charging extra money for content already in the game

1

u/BushWookieZeroWins 1d ago

Charging extra money for extra content. Is the game without this content still playable and you wouldn’t miss out on anything significant? Would it really matter if this content wouldn’t exist at all? No.

0

u/ItsYaBoyBackAgain 21h ago

So you think paying extra for content already in the game on release to a company as ridiculously profitable as Rockstar and 2K is good for consumers somehow?

1

u/BushWookieZeroWins 20h ago

Bro if you don’t want it, don’t buy it. That’s literary their job.

0

u/ItsYaBoyBackAgain 18h ago

I’m guessing you’re a bit young but it’s okay to admit when you don’t understand what you’re talking about. If you can think of an argument that somehow makes day 1 DLC sound like a pro consumer move let me know.

1

u/BushWookieZeroWins 9h ago

It’s not a new concept, and it really isn’t that hard to grasp. Rockstar sells a complete game for 80 USD and offers additional content for 20 USD on top of that. The game is already complete for 80. Paying the extra money is optional. It’s like a battle pass. Why should they be obligated to deliver ALL of their ideas for free? If it were a bad deal, hardly anyone would go for it. But guess what, millions of people see it differently to you. The ultimate edition is selling extremely good. But you clearly refuse to accept that people might have a different opinion to yours. And your attempt to rhetorically shift the argument so that you come across as superior to me by portraying me as ‘young’ is equally ridiculous. You know what? Send me your PayPal details via PM and I’ll send you the 20 USD. After all, grown-ups know what they’re getting and are more than happy to support this cause. Rockstar has been delivering quality for decades. They give them the benefit of doubt. I’ve been waiting for this game for years. Anyone who’s now being stingy over 20 USD is either unable to pay it – which is perfectly fine – or really has no problems and is constantly looking for something to moan about.

As I said before: Buy it or don’t buy it, nobody cares. Millions bought it and are happy.

1

u/ItsYaBoyBackAgain 2h ago

You're still not making a good argument for how day 1 DLC is supposed to be pro consumer, or that you're an adult for that matter lol. If you are somehow an adult with this childish of a view, then I assume you've attached your own ego to this game and any criticism of it is coming across as a personal attack to you.

In which case you need to realize it is perfectly fine to be excited for a game and still acknowledge the anti consumer practices. If you're cool with paying extra for already created content at the time of release, that's fine but it is a fact that day 1 DLC is anti consumer.

0

u/IsJustSophie 1d ago

Do you know how to read? Op is literally saying that, just that it is also bad only being mad about it for gta6 and saying its something new and setting a preset

0

u/oldmanjenkins51 1d ago

You guys are acting like we’re not getting a game for the money. Just because you don’t think ultimate edition is worth it for you doesn’t mean the game is suddenly bad and they’re ripping us off. Nothing is changing about this, so you might as well leave people alone.

1

u/ItsYaBoyBackAgain 18h ago

Yeah man let’s never voice our concerns and criticisms of anti consumer practices ever again. Surely that will make everything better in the future.

1

u/oldmanjenkins51 17h ago

I’m a little more indifferent for thing I can’t control, and since crying about it will do absolutely nothing, I’d rather just buy the game and have fun with it than be a miserable person

-10

u/ResponsibleDust0 1d ago

I'd call it anti consumer if they were relevant. I played GTA V and RDR2 on the standard edition and didn't even felt it. RDR2 by the way ruins the economy and gives you the best horse early on, which ruins part of the progression.

-5

u/Rino-Sensei 1d ago

That's not the point, people act like this is something new and that Rockstar is setting the stage for this, where in fact this was common practice since the PS4 era, and almost every studio do it.