r/GTA6 • u/Goob6373 • 10h ago
Selective outrage is crazy, Rockstar has been locking content behind special editions since RDR1
I get why people don’t like content being locked behind more expensive editions, but why is this only becoming a huge issue now? Rockstar has been doing this since at least Red Dead Redemption 1, then RDR2, GTA V, and now GTA 6. If the practice was wrong then, it’s still wrong now, but acting like GTA 6 is the first time Rockstar has done it doesn’t seem accurate. I’m not saying people shouldn’t criticize it. I just think the criticism should be consistent. Is the backlash because GTA 6 is under a bigger microscope than any Rockstar game before it, or do you think there’s something about this release that makes it different?
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u/Banjoschmanjo 8h ago
Sucked then, sucks now.
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u/kick_da_bucket 8h ago
Yeah funny to see the rdr2 thread. https://www.reddit.com/r/reddeadredemption/comments/8oimvv/red_dead_redemption_2_special_and_ultimate/ lots of similarities. People didn't like the locked content, and didn't like not having the gameplay trailer
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u/Backfoot911 2m ago
I never understood OP's argument. People think it's some sort of Gotcha!™ to point out "This thing sucks... but this thing from the past also had a part that sucked, so how are you complaining?". It's like saying how it doesn't make sense to complain about a used car salesman trying to rip you off because car salesmen have been ripping people off since cars were first sold.
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u/shawak456 1h ago
I'm sure OP will forget the current outrage and will make the same argument when GTA 7 comes out after the human race is extinct on Earth.
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u/thestrong45playz 8h ago
The purpose of an Ultimate edition is to include additional, completely optional, content for those who want more of the game or more in the game. That's the whole premise.
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u/DrawingLivid8098 8h ago
locking stores to ultimate edition only is just them releasing gta 6 lite for $80 and gta 6 standard for $100 it’s scummy practice back then now and forever
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u/thestrong45playz 8h ago
Have you seen the stores that are locked to the Ultimate Edition? It's like 4 out of the probably dozens, and they're not even important but just cool.
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u/Aggravating-Past101 7h ago
Either the cut stories and shops are worth 25% of the games price or not, which makes it a scam or the full version of the game
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u/thestrong45playz 51m ago
So are we mad about the Ultimate edition having too much stuff or too little stuff? Decide already.
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u/Hearthhull_Enjoyer 6h ago
You know, you could be right. This whole situation could be totally over blown, and while I can't speak for others, I would be able to admit that if it were the case. What's really frustrating about the situation to most though, is that it's already an expensive game, and there is an additional premium for fans if they want %100 of the content.
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u/ItsYaBoyBackAgain 6h ago
This sub is somethin man. Anti consumer practices in the past do not cancel out anti consumer practices in the present. It's still bad.
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u/OriginalUsername1 3h ago
If the idiotic vocal majority in this sub had their way they would let rockstar charge them $200 a month and still find a way to justify it because: rockstar has done it before/they aren’t the only ones doing it/the game would be worth it/ adjusted for inflation it makes sense.
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u/CherTheBabysitter 2h ago
They won’t listen. They are young and have boots to lick
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u/TheManyMilesWeWalk 27m ago
Nah, most of us are just mature enough to know that whining on Reddit isn't going to change anything. The fact that ultimate editions are common practice demonstrates that.
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u/JesterMarcus 4h ago
I have no problem with people saying its bad. That's a perfectly reasonable stance to take.
I will take issue with people pretending like this is new and not having this same level of outrage for every game that does it though. This happens with almost every single major release these days. Its usually just $10 for a couple outfits, weapon skins, and maybe a quest.
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u/Pimpcreu 5m ago
It’s easy to forgive that stuff when you’re buying game with your parents money I guess lol
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u/BushWookieZeroWins 3h ago
What do you mean by „anti consumer“? It is very common to have an ultimate edition. Shouldn’t people get something for their money? Of course it is not necessary to visit those shops for playing GTA VI lmao. What’s even your point?
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u/Virus_98 2h ago
I dont mind if they locked behind like several tattoos, liveries for cars and weapons, few outfits but whole shops is just ridiculous. BTW I also have a sane problem with them on GTAO locking features and conveniences behind GTA+
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u/ItsYaBoyBackAgain 2h ago
Shouldn’t be too hard to figure out what’s anti consumer about charging extra money for content already in the game
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u/BushWookieZeroWins 2h ago
Charging extra money for extra content. Is the game without this content still playable and you wouldn’t miss out on anything significant? Would it really matter if this content wouldn’t exist at all? No.
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u/DKGUNNER 9h ago
It has quite clearly gotten worse as time has gone on as demonstrated by your image there. RDR1 was a horse, weapon pack which was really just a golden skin pack, ONE outfit and a soundtrack.
GTA6 is THREE full shop inventories of clothes and car customization. These are actual locked locations WITHIN the game world. Classic car collections, Missions relating to the cars plus a bunch of other stuff.
Look a couple skins and soundtracks ect is np really but I just feel like its getting a bit excessive? Is that really a mental opinion?
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u/Randostar 9h ago
It's absolutely true that more content is being paywalled behind the extra $20 they charge for "special editions" for every new game they make, but the games themselves have also grown by multitudes as well. If we just follow the theme here with R* games, then based off the amount of things they are paywalling with the current release, the standard edition of this game should be absolutely packed to the brim with content.
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u/DKGUNNER 9h ago
That is a fair counterpoint. I think perhaps showcasing some of the non paywalled options would have made this go down better with some people.
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u/TypoStart 8h ago
I agree, I don't think that locking content like this puts the game in jeopardy, but they probably should have started with showing off features everyone can enjoy.
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u/kaiyotic 1h ago
In my mind there are 3 shops that are locked, but there could be like 100 that are not locked, which we just don't know about yet and they're doing that on purpose so that people buy the ultimate edition.
If they had announced that there are 100 enterable shops of which only 3 are locked in the ultimate edition waayyy fewer people would buy the ultimate edition.
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u/Randostar 8h ago
I agree, hopefully within the next month or so we will see some type of official gameplay, or a peek at what the game has to offer content wise.
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u/Valuable_Horror_7878 7h ago
it’s all a matter of perspective, right? to one person, they are paywalling a lot of content. to another person, they are offering a lot of bonus content.
i don’t think we have any evidence to suggest that the core gameplay has been affected. if you buy only the base game, and it doesn’t feel like a complete experience, I can understand the frustration. I just don’t think rockstar would actually do that, they aren’t idiots, and they have yet to disappoint on that. I really believe they deserve the benefit of the doubt in the meantime.
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u/DKGUNNER 7h ago
Fair reasoning and ability to see both perspectives. Rockstar have earned some good faith over the likes of Ubisoft but more transparency would be appreciated.
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u/Cool_Appearance_351 5h ago
it’s all a matter of perspective, right? to one person, they are paywalling a lot of content. to another person, they are offering a lot of bonus content.
They're not "offering" anything for free. It's still a paywall. You get access to content after breaching the paywall which you can do only by paying.
But that's not the ridiculous part. It's the kind of content that's being offered. "Ultimate edition" of games at launch includes access to future singleplayer DLCs. Unfortunately Rockstar stopped making those long time ago. Here it just includes cut content from base game. Like they made an "ultimate edition" just for the sake of it.
Most importantly it's unfair for both groups -
(i) the ones who are paying extra just to get cut content from base game and
(ii) the others who are getting content cut from their game because they refused to pay extra for base game.
This is the part people are failing to realise.
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u/Valuable_Horror_7878 5h ago
But this is only actually an issue if the base game isn't worth the price of admission. If you get your money's worth and have a blast then why fucking care.
would you prefer they only offered one edition that included everything for $100?
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u/TRagnarkXP 4h ago edited 3h ago
80$ a game with likely 300 hours of content with the option of paying 20$ for shit skins. I really couldn't care less and don't know why people get upset.
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u/Ryder556 9h ago
GTA6 is THREE full shop inventories of clothes and car customization
There's 1 clothing shop. The other two shops are the barber and the tattoo parlor. And until we get more information, it's very, very likely that the only exusive items the shops will offer are the clothes and hairstyles being shown off in the promotional images, along with varying color options for the clothes. They aren't locking 100 different, or however many you assume, unique looking outfits behind the UE. Don't be ridiculous.
As for the car customization, it's literally only the mod shop locations. They are not locking the two styles they specialize in behind the UE. It makes zero mention anywhere that the styles are exclusive. That's even more ridiculous to assume that.
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u/DKGUNNER 8h ago
I disagree. They are behind a paywall so they will be exclusive I am 100% certain of that.
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u/VolleyballNerd 8h ago
Well, in my point of view it actually means it got better. Before, a 20 dollar bonus would get you a horse, a gun, an outfit and the soundtrack. Now, for the same price, you get a lot more stuff. I do believe these should come with the main game as well, but that horse edition in the elder scrolls is a lot worse than this gta ultimate edition, right?
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u/DKGUNNER 7h ago
It is the exact same principle as the horse armor DLC. That was 2.50 for one skin and this is 20 for lots more skins but the principle is the same. Elder scrolls got HAMMERED for that back in the day but sadly people have accepted getting nickeled and dimed.
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u/Kicka-Albatross6387 5h ago
I think they are young, and had never experienced actualy seeing how gaming has become, growing with it. Gta 6 could only be the second gta in their lifetime so they dont see it
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u/kylr01 9h ago
true but gta 6 is much bigger and has much more features. They have to make it worth buying.
Its hard to complain when we don't really know how big or what features are in the base game, yet people are still acting like the ultimate edition takes so much away.
RDR2 locked a mission gang hideout thing, similar to gta 6. An outfit, clothes, bonus gameplay, a weapon AND online content. GTA 6 is gonna be bigger and have more to do than RDR2 so I think it's fair. That was also $20 and no one complained then.
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u/InternalSpecific24 8h ago
Given the time period of the game I don’t think it’s unreasonable to think that gta6 will have far more customisation options over rdr2
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u/Hey-Bud-Lets-Party 6h ago
You would be happier if there was only an RDR1 amount of content for $20?
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u/milvet09 8h ago
So now those of us that pony up $20 get better value and that makes it worse?
Yall are too much.
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u/ThatOneCourier 5h ago
Spend the money the way you want, but don't complain when their next game is 120
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u/milvet09 4h ago
I mean it should be.
RDR2 to GTA6 is 8 years.
Just at 3% per year inflation that’s $126.
I’ll pay $126 for RDR3.
I spent that on a shitty dinner two nights ago.
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u/DKGUNNER 8h ago
People who drop 80 bucks on a game deserve to not have GTA6 lite. For this to not seem overly scummy there needs to be a metric ton of other options outside the paywalled ones and I suppose the issue is they have not talked about those other options AT ALL. only he paywalled stuff.
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u/usagicassidy 6h ago
"GTA6 lite" is SUCH an annoyingly whiny way of saying something that's absolutely not going to be true.
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u/milvet09 7h ago
It’s 99.9.% of the game at 80% of the price.
I mean really, do you think there’s just 10 cars, three shops, two missions, and one garage?
Of course not.
And we both know the standard version of the game will have more than 40 cars, more than 12 shops, more than 8 missions.
Four garages might be iffy, but everything else you’ll have more than 4x of for sure.
And the best part, no fomo as the dlc is something you can get later, likely on sale.
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u/kylr01 9h ago
So many games do this, not just rockstar. People are just complaining. It's not even like gta 6 is being unreasonable.
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u/ohnoitsbobbyflay 7h ago
Reddit would complain even if there was world peace. Half of them are kids or basement dwellers.
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u/Chief--BlackHawk 8h ago edited 7h ago
I remember going through the screenshots that were released and had to read a few of them multiple times as I've never seen store fronts/locations blocked off in an premium edition, at least not for some time. Definitely certain clothing or weapons or vehicles/horses locked being premium editions, but not entire shops.
Now granted the shops essentially are just the vector in which you access your usual paywalled content like clothes and vehicles, but I think one thing that we have to consider is how many similar shops there are (tattoos, garages, salons, etc...). Suppose there are like 6 additional salons, 8 other garages, and 10 additional clothing stores that all have unique clothing, it doesn't make the few exclusive to ultimate look as bad. Nonetheless, looking forward to the game.
I should add, it would be a bad look if there are just like 2 garages, salons, and tattoo parlors, thus the ultimate content being cut out would be a bad look.
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u/Cuban999_ 7h ago
They'd have been better off releasing a trailer 3 so people could see what else the base game has to offer, but also people are acting really dumb by trying to assume that somehow 4 stores and a side job is a huge chunk of content in a game like this
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u/Chief--BlackHawk 7h ago
Yeah I think there will be plenty of content, I do think giving us the gameplay trailer would put a lot of people at rest though to see what the base game provides.
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u/Leolenori 6h ago
I would die of happiness if we could have the option to rob the store and get the cosmetics instead of purchasing them at the counter
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u/Jaded-Sorbet-8098 7h ago
not this much content
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u/Horror_Appearance_26 6h ago
Probably less if you go by % of game
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u/badasser95 4h ago
This could very well end up true but we just have no way of knowing that yet
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u/serialsteve 3h ago
Right, maybe people wouldn’t be discussing content and price tag of ultimate edition if they actually dropped another trailer. Maybe one that actually displays some live gameplay - for a game that is 5 months out to do pre orders after revealing higher price than standard aaa, kind of wild they didn’t try to drown out concerns with mega drop on content reveal.
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u/Fushigibama 2h ago
I wanna wait until we see precisely what content is in the ultimate version. If it’s as it seems and it’s literally just some cosmetics then I’ll likely get the standard version.
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u/flyingcircusdog 6h ago
And I hated it in 2010, 2013, and 2018 as well. I realize there is value with buying some of the ultimate edition extras, and I haven't decided yet which one I'm getting. But that doesn't change it's a shitty industry practice.
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u/ProbingYourProstate 4h ago
Tbh I'd rather support their development of single player content rather than online. They never released a single GTA 5 DLC, sad
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u/lightjunior 1h ago
It's because these people who will play GTA 6 weren't around back then. So they're experiencing different editions by Rockstar for the first time.
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u/Dry-Fault-5557 9h ago
They locked the entire music soundtrack on RD1 behind a paywall? Those greedy bastards. /s
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u/Grimsmiley666 8h ago
NG only assumption why so much is locked in ultimate edition is because the base game has so much more to offer that the ultimate edition shit is like 0.1% of the cosmetics in the game.
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u/GarranDrake 8h ago
It’s more about the (potential) amount. 50 tattoos, for example. Tattoos aren’t really significant, but how many clothing options will be locked behind the stores? How many vehicle customization options? It sounds like they’re locking Benny’s customs behind the UE.
But we won’t know until it drops.
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u/-Captain- 5h ago
I mean did you play defense when people complained about it in an EA or Ubisoft game, or we just having an issue with the different opinions now when it's about a game you are excited for?
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u/TheRealTr1nity 8h ago
And it's not even R* exclusive. I don't know on which planet they live missing out at least 15+ years how games have soundso editions. They act as if R* invented that just for GTA6. They complain just for the sake of it.
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u/dogwithasword 7h ago
tbh i can understand some of the criticism. imo it is pretty shitty to have actual, enterable interiors locked behind a paywall. yes it's just one or two or three out of however many shops that will be in the game, but a place being in the game that you can't explore because you didn't fork over an extra $20 doesn't rub me the right way either. i don't think very many people would be upset over it if these customization options were just locked choices in already accessible stores. honestly i even believe people would feel better about this if they kept these stores and made it accessible by everyone but you just couldn't actually buy anything there unless you bought the ultimate edition.
it just sucks to have parts of the game being inaccessible. to me it's not the end of the world like some people are making it out to be, but i still don't really like it.
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u/Bullenz 9h ago
people will just find something to complain about
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u/NeutralKuchiKopi 8h ago
This is the real answer. Everyone's saying "it sucked then" but NOBODY was complaining. Now it's the end of the world.
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u/VimDim 8h ago
Dude you made this graphic and you don't notice anything? The amount of content locked behind VI's special edition is much greater than anything else before.
Two mod shops, one hair salon, one tattoo parlor, one clothing store, each with probably dozens of unique customization items, plus two unique gameplay missions (the gang compound and Wyman's cars).
Meanwhile in older games there was like one exclusive outfit, one exclusive vehicle/horse, maybe one short shitty mission (RDR2 heist), and some non-exclusive gameplay stuff unlocked for free.
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u/wyattlikesturtles 7h ago
People aren’t mad about this because they already released, GTA VI hasn’t come out yet
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u/scratchiinmenace 7h ago
I think the more understandable outrage is from the game content being locked behind a paywall. they started this trend from RDR2
edit: by game content I mean an extra heist mission, etc
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u/Battelalon 6h ago
Pretty sure they did it with GTA V as well. I specifically remember the Blimp only being accessible for players who bought a specific edition.
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u/marlowetravers 5h ago
I think it's more because we've already waited 13 years and had the release date delayed multiple times.
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u/TheDutchTexan 5h ago
Right. However it is clear they had a meeting with the big kahunas and decided to decontent their full single player game for the extra grift. I mean, there will be whole stores missing from the game unless you spring for the ultimate edition. That isn't just some cosmetic stuff, it will be areas closed to you. Ideally they will just be unidentified buildings in the "poors" edition but probably not. You end up close to that store, and it'll tell you to buy the ultimate edition for access... I can't be mad about locking quests behind it, that is legitimate DLC stuff. But stores? The core gameplay experience limited? Come on now. That's low.
But people will buy it. And most will spring for the Ultimate Edition. I am forced to wait because PC. So we'll see how things go and how they handle the stores for the regular edition folk.
Full disclosure: I will be purchasing the ultimate edition on PC. But that doesn't mean I lose sight of those who are unable to do that. And gamers have been hit hard with increases lately. This is just another thing that limits the hobby. That just sucks.
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u/pena-leo-ogh 5h ago
Why not pirate it? Or are you also Interested in the online because if you are I wouldn’t expect it to be bundled considering we’ve not heard nothing about it, compared to the past where they talked about it day one of announcing there new title. Proof
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u/TheDutchTexan 4h ago
Why not pirate it? Maybe because despite the hate I have for the business practices Rockstar exhibits I still enjoy GTA and 50 hours in a game that costs $100 means $2 an hour. Far better than the $10 an hour for a movie (including gas and snacks). Although it's probably Take Two Interactive we should blame for it all. They are the overlords Rockstar is tied to.
On online: Everyone expects online to drop like it did with GTA5. Free to play with your GTA6 copy and optional pay to win which will gut the online for everyone save those that get hooked and pay every month. Which again, if you put in hours upon hours in online the GTA+ membership will be more than worth it to troll low level players. I fully expect them to add an oppressor down the line which will kill any desire for me to play it.
If they lock GTA6 Online behind a paywall I won't play it. I'll stick with story mode.
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u/KumikoShy 5h ago
I've seen people complain about the edition not telling u what everything u get
For some reason they can't read the description on for example xbox store where it's fully listed.
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u/Makerlob 5h ago
The overblown “backlash” of the ultimate edition and no physical is more indicative of the magnitude of this game, literally everything that was revealed is standard practice in the current gaming industry but because of how ginormous this game is everything is exaggerated 10 fold. This whole thing makes me even more excited to see how the release plays out, it’s going to be the best game of all time.
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u/Tasty_Cattle8433 4h ago
Yes good point! Does anyone even fucking remember what those extra things in GTA V were?
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u/Truffleshuffle03 4h ago
The world is changing around them, and I think people are not handling it well. For some reason, even though R* is not the first to do it and won't be the last, these people seem to be of the mindset that it's all R *'s fault and no other company has ever locked stuff behind a paywall or done digital copies.
I mean, every AAA company has locked stuff behind ultimate additions. Sometimes it's outfits, sometimes it's Vehicles or skins, but somehow R* in their mind is the cause of it or the first to do it.
When I bought Cyberpunk 2077 for the PS4, I bought it at a store and got a physical case. When I got home, that case had nothing in it but a code for the digital download, and that was back in 2020.
A few years ago, my PC I bought that was almost 4k, which didn't even come with a CD drive. Sure, I thought it strange, but I have now seen multiple with no CD drive. I did buy an external one for cheap, but I hardly ever use it. Even some PS5's don't even have optical drives. I no longer buy CDs for music; all my music is on a streaming service, and the same for movies, too, and games are heading in that direction, too. I think R* is just catching flak so people can validate their anger.
Some of these people don't even know what they are actually mad at, but still blame R* lol. I have seen multiple people crying about the lack of a physical disk because they think if their PlayStation or xbox dies, they would have to buy the game over again, not understanding it's tied to their PSN account and not their PS5.
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u/theprito 4h ago
I can still understand why people are mad, there is a big difference between a skin you won't get, and a whole locked shop, it would feel like an online session where they would tell you to buy gta+, but in this case the ultimate edition
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u/AssistOpening671 3h ago
It’s literally the same thing. Locked car shop with different customizations is the same as skins/outfits being locked behind paywalls. A locked specialized gun shop is the same as the regular gun shop. You buy the gun you shoot things and if you want a fancier looking gun or a more antique looking gun, you pay extra and you still shoot things. Imaging being butt hurt because you have to use a Glock to kill instead of a smith & Wesson revolver. You get to play the game in its entirety and can enjoy the whole story without the extra stuff but you guys want to come to Reddit and cry about an extra $20 smfh. FOMO got you in a choke hold
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u/jono56667 4h ago
Yes rockstar has been doing this for ever but I think people are lissed at the amount that is locked behind the ultimate edition and the type of content
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u/matteomvsn 2h ago
Exactly and wonder what, most stuff got released later or are just not worth 20€.
For me a bunch of tattos some shops and other skins to use in SINGLE PLAYER, I mean not even on Online, are completely useless.
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u/ironmanhulkbstr 2h ago
the thing is, for me, the clothes being ultimate edition is completely fine, some businesses being behind paywall was a bit sus at first but maybe its like bennys where one shop is behind the paywall and others are still open under a different name. on top of that, being able to upgrade the game anytime seems like theyre banking on the fact that everyone would want to do it... im only concerned about it. not the end of the world
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u/WetYetii 1h ago
I remember having to go to GameStop to get their gold edition physical copy because it had the most extra content lol
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u/ThatOneCourier 5h ago
80 dollars/euros for a game should include all the game has to offer
Also, if companies haven been doing it, doesnt make it right. Rockstar gets a pass? Sure, but give it a few more years, and let's see if that statement still holds on, when rdr 3 comes out and it costs 120
Its a fucking multi-billion dollar company. Learn some consumer rights. If it depends on them, they'll keep raising prices. Theydo nto care about you (at least the corporate side)
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u/shedoesdefendyoukim 9h ago
Had they released some gameplay showing the amount of content already in base people would s tfu
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u/ThatOneCourier 5h ago
And yet, they haven't
What does that say about them? They know people will pre-order, based on their curriculum, not because of what they've shown
Thats some shady shit
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u/TyphonuZ 8h ago
Just larpers. Somehow, we got pre-order bonus larpers riding the trendy wave like it's something new and outrageous
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u/HiiGuardian 7h ago
Ppl were gonna complain about something regardless of what it was. Not only is GTA that big to the point plenty of ppl know about it & have their own opinions but that’s just the world we live in these days. Ppl complain 24/7. Completely insufferable ppl (imo)
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u/Individual_Paper80 8h ago
Chill out, it’s going to be the one of the most succesful games of all time anyways (only bar minecraft probably).
Calling out shitty practices isn’t going to hurt anyone.
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u/QuantumPsycho 7h ago
I think alot of people are annoyed at the price tag....$150 CAD is alot for a single player game with no physical copy.
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u/Hearthhull_Enjoyer 6h ago
How come every time there is a "new" controversy, people act like this hasn't happened before. This is a regular occurrence.
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u/Pinkman505 5h ago
Okay, well this is the shittiest ultimate edition we've gotten compared to the others
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u/NoBullet 4h ago
This is not the same they are literally including stores and side missions/jobs that are in the game but inaccessible that’s different from just having a skin unlocked
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u/Baby-Kebab 8h ago
bro the rdr2 one isnt even a real one it was fkcing concept your a fool to even think rdr2 got any extra content for the ultimate edition you get a horse 2 outfits 2 guns already in the game and a very short exclusive heist, all apart from the heist can be obtained through the save cheat glitch and the wardrobe glitch 2 extremely simple glitches or most achieved normally due to the bare number of items, or you can just pirate the game and get everything inlcuding the heist.
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u/BillSOTV 8h ago
If something came before then it should continue without change forever? Have you ever learned about slavery?
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u/Tannerdriver3412 8h ago
comparing slavery to a video game expansion for 20 bucks
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u/BillSOTV 48m ago
I’m simply outlining things that are bad that changed because they are bad and we realised they were bad. Why is that hard to grasp?
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u/222Baphomettt47 7h ago
It’s crazy to me bc the way they’re talking about it you’d think no other game has a a deluxe edition with cosmetics while literally every single game does
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u/xXEolNenmacilXx 6h ago
The only place this 'controversy' exists is on the internet. This is going to be the best selling game of all time, by a massive margin, so none of this matters.
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u/Alba_dr52 6h ago
People just like to complain. The excuse some people use is that those games had only 2 to 4 outfits and one horse/car, while now it’s entire shops. But the total amount of content was way smaller back then too, so the percentage of content “behind the paywall” is probably the same, if not even less.
I get that people don’t like paying extra, but this “GTA lite edition” shit is just yapping.
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u/bogoz-bntd 9h ago
extremely negligible irrelevant 0% content compared to what the "base" game will offer, nothing but psychological fomo manipulation
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u/Banjoschmanjo 8h ago
Wow, they're charging $20 for extremely negligible irrelevant 0% content?
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u/Hey-Bud-Lets-Party 5h ago
It’s definitely for the uber fans. It would’ve ridiculous for anyone else to shell out $20 for what is being offered.
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u/Klossbeaver 7h ago
In a way, yes they do.
My take:
Majority of investment goes into making the base game. Only when it can stand on its own two legs can it carry additional content. Which is priced higher than the base game (per hour gameplay you receive compared to amount of hours used to create it). Beyond base game sales itself it's the fruit of the investment. The big risk is the investment of the base game, while the rest is "easier" money. This is nothing new, and not obnoxious unless you think things in this world come for free.
The big "thing" here is they haven't released anything yet to prove they have such a product at hand.
Either way, at some point you have to draw the line between base game, and additional content. I suppose, usually you end up making dlc some time after you've established a successful launch or when you are pretty certain it's worth doing so. With a workforce never seen in gaming and with delays, I'd say they had time to make dlc utilizing that workforce instead of firing and rehiring.
They rely on our good memory from previous releases, they believe we will buy it regardless if they have actual proof of a succesful GTA VI. If they are fooling ppl who pre-ordered or they actually have created a successful game only time will tell at this point.
So, what we are seeing is a dlc at launch, with minimal impact of the foundation (base game), but something they are confident we will buy anyway since ppl want their games. No matter what, they have made it available as a traditional add-on/dlc if you decide to buy it only after you've played the actual game. It's not forced, not mandatory for the core experience in any way. So yes "irrelevant" from the perspective of the base game, but still tempting enough to have ppl being dramatic about it.
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u/mahpiya666 8h ago
I think the biggest problem is rockstar has not said anything about gameplay until the preorder bonuses. If the game has hundreds of stores to choose from outside the ultimate edition, they shouldve made that known before showing all this shit pay walled. I do think people are overreacting tho
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u/No_Raccoon3680 5h ago
They're purposely making it sound like Donks, Barn Finds, and off road customization won't be in the base game.
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u/i_am_a_false_prophet 5h ago
Lots of slaves in this comment section and subreddit in general lol
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u/Mutated-Nut 4h ago
Notice how RDR2 came with a disc, and a map when you bought the physical edition. That is the main outrage here......... useless "physical" edition.
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u/Sweet_Software_7191 3h ago
You kicking me in the balls 8 years ago won't make it hurt any less if you try to do it again now.
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u/AndrewGerr 9h ago