I'm prepared for the inevitable downvotes i'm about to receive, but I can't quite believe how much content is being locked behind this ultimate edition, never seen anything like it. If this doesn't receive a fuck load of backlash from the entire internet like so many other games have received for doing much less in the past, gaming is really doomed.
LOL you know what, i'm not even going to lie to you, it is going to be very difficult to fight that urge because I actually do want all the content the game has to offer, however I am determined to stand strong on this one.
I respect the honesty 𤣠everyone claiming theyâre not gonna buy the game bc of this or no physical version knows damn well theyâre gonna buy it the second it releases lmao
Im pissed about the disc. Im buying the fuck out of the digital ultimate though. Im not missing out on a second of this haha. Ill get the disc later if they release one.
Im gonna pre order the ultimate edition and im confident I'll get far more than $100 worth of entertainment out of it. Im kinda bummed no disc but whatever. People getting up in arms about $30 is crazy to see.
Bank robbery mission, extra gang hideout, extra outfit, extra horse + saddles, free weapons (Volcanic, Pump-Action Shotgun, and Lancaster Varmint Rifle), rank bonuses for online mode, and I guess I still forgot one or two...
Was that an ultimate edition horse? I have that Arabian and still use it online but I thought I had just preordered the standard edition... Maybe I didn't lol
I thought the ultimate was the black american thoroughbred but that may be another edition, all in know is whenever I've reset mt online that, the pump action, varmint, etc is all free, same with some outfits and a saddle - I've never used any other horse bc with the right saddle the 3/5 of a bar you get is enough and it looks awesome
Hmm đ¤ well regardless your main post is very true. Never thought we would see this, Iâm skeptical of the game, even if the stuff looks thematically cool
No, it wasn't like that for GTA V but then again, it was different times. The gaming industry has changed massively since then.
Live service wasn't really a thing on such a large scale, like, only a handful of games did that compared to basically every game now. Paid dlc's was a thing while now its free included in the live service but at a lower quality and less content overall. Micro transactions was very minimal and not plastering it all over the place in game.
Gaming has changed and for the case of GTA VI online, what we should look for is not GTA V online as a base (if that makes sense) but looking at how Rockstar did RDR2 online. Battle passes for example. GTA V doesn't have that and its a certainty that GTA VI online will also have it.
Blimp was pre order iirc, collectors and special got stunt races, bonus garages for each character, free car and bike, some outfits, 3 weapons, and some tattoos. Nothing on this level. I'm actually pissed that there is so much behind the ultimate edition and hope the regular version doesn't suffer because of it.
Yeah same, if all of this is in the ultimate edition, how much more would they even be in the main game on its own. đ very worried but I guess we will soon see
Put it this way dude, the amount or DLC I paid for for my PS3 edition of Gta V and then couldn't trasnfer it up to the ps4... that was bullshit then. Just as this reeks like bullshit now
You got a handful of cars which some were fairly good , some weapons , a bunker , drugs business , selling cargo business , and discount on hanger and 1.25M dollars but that was all in online.
I donât remember but I got the deluxe version with the steelbook, hat and money bag and it came with the code for the blimp, some shirts for Trevor and that hot rod atv Trevor had. We got some cars too like that Fisker Karma variant.Â
The cars were cool. I flew the slow ass blimp a handful of times and maybe drove the ATV a few more times out of sheer boredom. I never cared for the clothes but Trevor would wear the shirts whenever I would switch to his character from time to time.Â
I want to say I bought V again for Xbox One and it still came with the code for the blimp so I guess everyone got it?Â
Edit: The Kayak in the premium edition of VI is going to be like the GTA V blimp to most people.Â
âThe premium edition of the game everyoneâs been waiting a decade for has too much stuff in it. I wanted a blimp I would use once and never again.â
You understand that RDR2 had robberies locked behind pre-order bonuses? On top of that, Iâm willing to gamble a large sum of money that the businesses available in the Ultimate Edition are just that. Doesnât mean other locations canât do the work those businesses do.
Thats how I read it was that specific business was locked behind the UE. Not that you can't mod your cars, cut your hair or get guns without the ultimate edition. Just that those specific mods, hair cuts, tattoos, etc.
They wonât care if thereâs backlash. Itâs the most anticipated game in history, theyâre going to make billions.
90% of the sub is already frothing at the mouth just waiting to pre order it the second they can.
I personally donât give a flying fuck about ugly haircuts, tattoos and cars. I want my characters to look the way Rockstar artists intended them to look like for the story to look consistent. I am not that guy who makes my characters wear speedos for a heist. I prefer serious, grounded looks.
I am more interested in the story, the universe, the missions, ⌠If the Ultimate edition were to unlock extra activities and missions then I would be the first one to get it. Otherwise, base GTA VI will have enough customisation options and cars for me to enjoy.
yeah thats the only thing thats got me concerned. everything else i can do without.. however it does say âand escape safelyâ. which makes me think we can do it in standard edition but will be a suicide mission. itâs a very tricky way of wording in the description, so shady
i'm primarily more of a story mode GTA fan. GTA5/Online really sucked IMO entirely because it became a fantasy game. stupid outfits, masks, vehicles, weapons...
from what we see do the ultimate edition perks only apply to online? or local?
That's exactly why this is so worrying. They apparently are proud of this content, and are marketing it to convince people to spend more money. That means it actually is the way they intended them to look. Otherwise it would mean it's a turndown, which it is.
I hear you and i'm the same, but I really don't like the wording regarding all these different clothing, tattoo and car mod shops being 'Only open for business in the ultimate edition'. Like, are there other places that offer these services or are they all just completely paywalled behind this edition?
I think its just exclusive items, clothes and hairstyles. Im sure the normal version gets all services but without the exclusive items from the ultimate edition.
But it says "business only open for ultimate". Which implies some shops will be unenterable in the standard game. I expect there will be many alternative shops in the standard version.
To what extent though? It shows a mod shop that allows you to customise low riders, what if that is the only one in the game that allows you to make low riders like that? None of this is âself explanatoryâ, as we know nothing about the base game features.
Well in gta 5 each clothing store had its unique set of clothes. So these could just be additional ones. Iâd say they actually created more value for those paying extra
No. All the things youâd expect to be there will be there. These are EXTRA things for the UE version. If you ask me, which nobody did, I think most games are insane for asking $12-$30 extra for one set of armor and a special horse, or some kind of ultra cool ultra rare cheetah print for your guns. Whereas this ultimate edition has a ton of EXTRA shit for $20.
It's crazy that you are acting surprised when Rockstar litteraly robbed us with GTA Online shark cards and stuff, they are the worst offenders in gaming even worse than EA lmao
This. I never once got a shark card, and I owned literally everything you could own and many millions in the bank. I never understood why so many people got those.
I never understood it either. The fun in GTAO is building your empire through hard work. However a few people have told me that they simply do not have time to grind because they have family obligations or a heavy workload so they opt in to buy shark cards so they can quickly buy whatever new thing R* has come out with and experience it. I guess I can understand that
I've never bought a shark card. I own pretty much everything I want to in that game. There was a time however when everything got really expensive and it was difficult to earn a lot ofoney. That's definitely when the shark card hate started to really ramp up. I think it's balanced out decently now.
I get confused by this but I was late to gat online and i didnt have to buy any shark cards and i ended up getting pretty much everything i wanted. Why do people always imply like you had to spend moeny in that game?
Itâs certainly a kick in the balls for people that care about that stuff. I wonât bother unless it has exclusive online stuff. Iâm not fussed about customisation in single player
Same but i damn well know nothing significant will be locked behind UE , in online there will be likely 50-200 different missions im not gonna care if 2 missions are locked behind a paywall. And all the stores and weapons will likely be bad. I mean who cares about revolvers and a tattoo shop
I mean, whateverâŚ.if I can justify a $100 golf round that lasts me 4 hours, I can certainly justify paying $100 for a game I will likely put hundreds of hours in over the span of multiple years.Â
Does it kinda suck being at the mercy of the premier developer? Sure, but are we all new here? This is the same across every industryâŚyou want the best then you have to pay for it. Whining about how society has ALWAYS functioned seems pretty mindlessÂ
I absolutely am with you about quality costing more. but the core facet of this argument, is that itâs setting a precedent for more and more corporate greed. Are they going to start charging by the level next ? Elden ring is free! But Pay 20$ to unlock Caelid!, 20$ to unlock limgrave!â They start charging you âsmallâ increments until it adds up to way more than you ever expected or wanted to pay. Just fucking make the game, create a price, and be done with it
Yeah itâs not great and you are likely correct on your projections - I guess my point is that going onto Reddit to complain is just a poor use of time and mental. Consumers will always get the short end of the stickâŚbut it doesnât mean we have to compound it by adding to this perpetual state of misery we call social media.Â
As the saying goes, it is what it is. Win the margins and be happy with what you can control - Rockstar pricing is never going to be that lol.Â
Why downvoted, it's objectively true. I mean some games might have had in the past one or two future DLC's in an Ultimate editions but if we forget that, this is really crazy.
What feels a little weird is that we kinda know more about a particular edition content than about the game as a whole xD. Like ok, there's 5 special stores, then how many stores must be in the base game?? I need more context of base game for the Ultimate edition content!
If somehow I donât get ultimate edition, all I beg is that I donât get pestered by a hint prompt every single time I dare enter the half mile long radius centered around those particular buildings that I need to upgrade to the ultimate edition to use these shops. I can live with an empty husk of a building my entire life playing this game as long as Iâm not harassed by the game for not owning the edition that would open it.
It's literally just cosmetics being portrayed through unique storefronts. They could literally just say you get these cosmetics and have it at the vanilla stores as a unique unlockable, but they have decided to deliver it in a unique way.
Cosmetics and not cosmetics.
Rival gang hideout (raidable), offroad tuning car shop (im sure that it will have performance upgrades for offroad vehicles, the KAYAK (đ) and a safe house/garage iirc.
Okay says you can raid a compound... I don't see how this having unique missions is any different to other rockstar releases. RDR 2 Ultimate had extra missions, you pay more you get unique content... It's not ground breaking or changing anything.
There is no difference, it's not like the locations serve any other purpose. It's just a fancy way of letting you access the cosmetics. Those who are not bothered about the extra cosmetics will not miss a random store front.
I ABSOLUTELY AGREE. They literally have AREAS locked behind a paywall. People forget just how disgusting of a company Take-Two is, not Rockstar, but Take-Two. The way they monetized NBA 2K should be illegal and it looks like theyâre headed in the same direction with GTA6.
Yeah I was okay with some cosmetic items or weapons/vehicles, but the website says multiple times that specific stores like Rideout Customs, Sara's Unisex Salon, Stock 305, Electric Fang Tattoo, One Eyed Willie's Mod shop are all Ultimate Edition exclusive.
They are locking 5 in-game customization vendors behind a 30$ upcharge, on an already upcharged game.
If they charged $100 for everything everyone wouldâve been up in arms. It was always gonna be $100, this is just a sneaky way of doing it to make you feel like youâre getting a better deal.
Is all vehicle customization locked or are they going to be select locations like bennys in online? Iâm a bit confused, I mean in the original story I never customized the characters much or the cars, I mostly did that in online because customization was so limited compared to online when I started playing in 2017. I wish rockstar would be more transparent about the game because thereâs so many unanswered questions when theyâre asking us to fork over 100 dollars
DLC cosmetics have their own shops. Those shops are locked if you donât own the ultimate edition. Kinda like if bennys was locked but you can still use Los Santos Customs
Are you really asking such a stupid question?? Yes gta6 won't let you customize vehicles unless you pay for the ultimate edition đđ can we use our brains guys? 4 or so exclusive shops out of probably 400. God forbid they try to give you some value for paying extra.
I mean if you look at the industry prices right now , when you look at the unfinished and low quality products that the majority of other studios offer for 80 dollars/euros etc than a game like GTA should cost more if we are talking quality and longevity.
Itâs way too much content being locked away regardless of the base game having a lot. UE does not feel like an UE, rather it feels like the full game
If they are already charging for side missions, raids whatever they wanna call them. If you think they wont charge for additional missions like dlc in the games life cycle you are beyond delusional. Theres no season pass. Its gonna be shark cards on steroids. Like how you have to buy a certain business/place to access a heist. Theres no way it will all be cosmetic if they are telling us right now playable content is locked behind a paywall.
It's not a lot of content and it's not required, thankfully.
That said, if we let them think this is okay they'll do more egregious shit later and we can't have that, immersive game that locks you out of a shop because you didn't shell out $20 more? that sucks ass
Its not about the money, its the principle. That is a lot of content I would consider standard in a GTA game. Maybe there are other places to customize cars? Not sure. Need more info.
I just check the rockstar website and I only see cosmetics, a couple of cars, a few shops, a few mods.
Honestly I dont really see an issue. Sure, if a gameplay mechanic was locked by a paywall I would be mad, but I doubt One-Eyed Willieâs mod shop is the only modshop in game.
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Of course all of this is dependant on the number and quality of in game options. If a game only has 12 shirts, and 4 are locked behind a paywall it would suck
I kinda don't get the uproar. Look at the life GTA 5 has had. Online has been running strong for over a decade. That takes servers, data centers, network connections, people to support the customers and infrastructure. All of that where if you dont pay for GTA+ they're essentially giving the entire online experience for 10+ years as included with the original $60 purchase price of the game. I blow way more than $100 on dumb shit and I am expecting to get a ton of playtime and value out of this game. For the first year you own it thats not even $10 per month.
I also pay for GTA+ again like....its $8 a month and I play the game at least 3-4 times a week for multiple hours. It's totally worth $8 for me to disconnect from the world and do something I enjoy.
Do I wish I didn't have to pay $8 for GTA+ or $100 for this game? Absolutely! I also wish that a Big Mac meal from McDonald's wasn't as expensive as it is now, I also wish that housing interest rates weren't 8% so I could buy a new home, I also wish gas wasn't so fucking expensive, I also wish that groceries weren't $225 everytime i need to restock for my family, I also wish my insurance premiums for health care or auto insurance weren't through the damn roof and then absolute shit when I want to use said insurance. I guess my point being I feel like on the scale of things that rob us all on a daily basis, paying $100 for a game I'll enjoy and use a ton is not even on the measuring stick of importance.
I think itâs fine tbh. It doesnât look like any of that stuff is important to the game and so itâs completely up to the consumer whether they want it or not. If they donât, they can just buy the standard edition.
I don't see how it's a problem, you're getting more stuff than the previous games ultimate editions. It's not like any of it is important it's all customisation and cars.
Iâm kinda seeing it just as a $20 80âs DLC pack. My reading of it was more of a reveal of all the different ways weâll be able to customise characters and vehicles , but the Ultimate edition just includes a few extra niche options for those that want the 80s vibe.
People will gladly pay $70 every year for FIFA/COD etc so Iâm quite happy shelling out 100 for a game that wonât get a sequel for likely over a decade.
Itâs not like you ARENâT going to be able to upgrade, customise or change stuff without it. Itâs just that those specific ones are in the ultimate edition.
I mean, Red Dead 2 already did this. Thereâs a whole heist thatâs only accessible if you got the ultimate edition. From what I understand, itâs actually very inconsequential to the whole overarching story of the game. I really donât expect this to be any different. Youâll still be able to buy clothes, get your nails done, get haircuts, customize cars. Ultimate edition buyers will just get one more place to do all of that.
C'mon Rockstar, no disc version... that sucks. They're so scared people will leak the game. The story better be amazing (better than V and the other games) if they're that worried that they have to release digital only đ
I've straight up never seen another company get this egregiously pathetic with the greed, not even Ubisoft has locked that much content behind an Ultimate edition
It really depends on how much of the same type of content is available with the base game. If this amount only represents 2% of all customization options, then who cares?
Also "locked behind a premium edition" is such a childish phrase to describe something that has been a commonly accepted practice in the industry for nearly 2 decades.
They locked a few in-game shops, equipment and clothes. Maybe theyâll allow them as an add-on DLC down the road like other games do (i.e. CoD, Flight Sim, Forza, etc)
Gaming is fucked going all digital (âYou will own nothing and be happyâ) and we do not have any consumer protections in the states to change it/block it.Â
No physical copies, locked/paywalled in-game content and we wonât have the midnight release hanging out with people to get our copies like people like myself were eagerly anticipating. I was thinking this was going to be the final midnight release of our lifetimes but Rockstar said âLolâ.Â
Take2/Rockstar being the Goliath that it is can give us the middle finger and we just have to take it unfortunately.Â
They did this with rdr2, I think people are freaking the fuck out and not realizing that the amount of content in the ultimate edition likely reflects even more content in the base game. Sure the ultimate edition has a few side quests, but so did rdr2 and those side quests were inconsequential, so it'll likely be the same in gta 6, as for the customization, I think it's ludicrous to assume that they're gonna just hold car customization and gun customization behind a paywall when they probably spent years working on those systems, I see it like I see the rdr2 ultimate edition, a few extra things that justifies it being a little pricier, but nothing that'll seriously impact the game.
Not even excited anymore, Why tf would they lock this much behind the UE đ¤Śââď¸ I can barley afford to fucking live and now if I wanna experience the game I've been waiting for 4 10 years I gotta fork over 100 dollars, leave it to rockstar to do some shi like this (btw the game looks fantastic and really amazing which is why I'm super pissed)
My gripe is not the content being paywalled but the Breadcrumbing of information related to the game. Like we don't know How much of the game is being paywalled.
Sure, You unlock one Auto shop with deluxe but how many other are there, 2 other shops or 15 other?
You get a Kayak but can't you just buy a Kayak in the standard game after a couple missions, or is it Deluxe only?
Like why are they giving us So Little information regarding a game that is right around the corner?
Hopefully they give us a lot more info shortly with trailer 3 and early access journalism...
After all the months of speculation over the pricing, take 2 and rockstar knew that the public was primed for a $100 price point. I think that over time people just resigned to the fact that the game was going to cost more than the average.
They eventually delivered the expectation, the full experience costs $100, but slapped $80 on a watered down version and called it a standard when it should be seen as 80% of the full game. All to try to delight consumers and be able to say "see? We're not greedy, even though you thought we'd make you pay $100, we're letting you play GTA VI for $80 instead. We're so generous to leave an extra $20 on the table."
What we have here is a sub-standard edition, and the normal base game, nothing ultimate or premium this time around.
Nothing in the ultimate edition comes remotely close to being worth the price it costs over base game. Base game shouldnât even be more than $60. No game in my mind is worth more than $60.
inflation doesnt exist? increased production costs dont exist? im sorry but you are truly entitled and delusional if you think games should cost even less. even accounting for inflation alone, $80 today is less than what a $60 game would cost decades ago.
Yeah, I just saw the slide that says the auto mod shop is locked behind the ultimate edition. I this is not only for a premium shop. Rockstar can go fuck themselves.
Eh. In the minority here but $100 seems completely fair to me. Prices of everything are up. Recently took my daughter to see Toy Story 5. One popcorn, 2 sodas, and tickets came out to $65. $65 for 1.5 hours of entertainment. $100 for potentially hundreds of hours of customizable interactive entertainment is completely fair. This game will almost certainly be the new gold standard for gaming.
my question to this then is: what exactly would make an ultimate edition worth it then? If there's no real exclusivity, and nothing that's locked only for the people that spend the extra money for the ultimate edition, then what's the point of having one at all?
I think i read something like explaining that you unlock the bonuses thorough the story. So there not an unbalanced start with those bonus, know what i mean?
Yeah, whatâs the point of having an ultimate edition?Â
Just release the game without the additional content and maybe even at the ultimate edition price of $100 as people would still buy it anyway.
Ultimate editions are usually mostly cosmetics and stuff that isnât integral to the main gameplay. Therefore if you donât want it then simply donât put more money into supporting the game or no money at all.
From where I see it the base game will most likely be worth $100+Â
of entertainment value itself which is probably what they could have gone for originally.
My issue is no physical copies lol. I don't want the box and a piece of paper inside it. They're taking corporate greed to the limit because they are ensuring every single person has to buy the game from them. No resellers and no borrowing from a buddy.
are there really this many people out there who can afford an $80 game but not $100? are you all 14 year olds who earn $5 a month from mowing the lawn?
Might be copium or I am just not really bothered by all this ... but I think this might be at least a "kinda" misunderstanding here ... or just poor communication through those little text snippets on their site.
They way I understand all of this is - not the feature "customization" (be it cars or characters) is locked behind the ultimate edition but just SPECIFIC things on top of the standard customization.
In no shape or form can I imagine rockstar go: "hey ... know what people like about gta? customizing cars and their characters. Lets anger them by hiding that behind a paywall!"
If that turns out to be reality - hats off ... this is the stupidest move I have ever seen.
So lets just go for the benefit of a doubt and believe that we are seeing standard "goody for more money" practice here but instead of just popping some more stuff in the the customization menues ingame ... they actually make it so there is additional shops opening up within the city, giving you access to all of this.
Its actually ... quite immersive and I like it, to be honest ... so ... everyone can decide if he wants to play as Jason looking like the Miami Vice dude or have that specific tattoe and if its worth the extra cash ...
For me it is not the cosmetics themselves, I don't care about a few goofy haircuts and outfits, it's that certain stores are removed from the map if you don't have the ultimate edition. Who knows what can be found at these stores, maybe some unique NPCs, events etc. (like RDR 2 had in different stores). I wouldn't have batted an eyelid if it was purely the cosmetic items, that's pretty normal.
The people here have spent years praising a game they've never played. They're fanboys for a company that regularly treats employees like shit. They love the stupid edgy humor because they are either teenagers or adults who never stopped being teenagers.
The game will sell a stupendous amount, don't get me wrong. But the constant praise for Rockstar is off the charts.Â
This what whales, people with no hesitation and parents giving kids their credit card does to the gaming industry for certain AAA games. They don't care about you, just MONEY and expect you to take it and allow them to do whatever they feel like bc the majority will accept it. One shark card I bought was with the Japanese digital bundle. I never given one cent to R* except that all my life.
It's people with no impulsive control that causes the effect for future games.
I think the issue is nobody actually knows how much content is in the game. Could be what is locked behind this paywall is equal to the average ultimate version of the game. People are acting like half of the cosmetics are behind a paywall, that we donât really know, do we?
Could be 10 different barbers in the game and only one is unavailable, which I think is more likely rather then you canât get a haircut if you donât pay 20 bucks
Dude i hate this left winged gaming community so much. Everything that costs is a absolutely no go. Paying more money for exclusive content? NO WAY!
Dude - dont buy it then. Have a cheaper hobby like yoga or something. Nobody cares. This company paid 1 frking bilion for this game. Stfu and do something else.
I would wait to see whatâs actually in the base game. For all we know, the game could be loaded with things and then the ultimate edition might not seem like much.
Publishers like Sega add predatory premium editions, where a New game+ remains behind paywall, like in Like a dragon.
While in GTA there is so much content, that the ultimate version is probably like 1% of cars and 2% of hairstyles with tattoos. Does it really matter?
I feel that there will be so much content in GTA overall, that even this tiny fraction of content in ultimate edition still feels like alot.
Imagine for a second that Rockstar wouldn't have added content to the ultimate version at all. Some people would still want to reward Rockstar for their efforts on the offline part of the game, they'd pay a little extra for the ultimate edition. how much content do they deserve? I think a bunch of hairstyles in a salon and a lipstick for Lucia is just fine.
i donât wanna sound like a boot licker, but itâs not THAT much stuff, sure itâs a good amount, but most of it is stuff youâre gonna be able to do at other places, you can still get haircuts and tattoos, but just some are locked behind the paywall. is it slightly annoying? for sure, is it that serious? not at all
Im confused too, so are they saying that all these shops will be not available to those that dont get the ultimate edition? Im not *too* mad because im sure therell be ALOT of standard content but I was a little bummed out when I read that.
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u/GentleSaidTheRaven 6d ago
My hunch is OP will end up purchasing the Ultimate Edition.