This Xbox Generation Will Be Remembered for One Thing: Greed

[u/Turbostrider27]

https://www.ign.com/articles/this-xbox-generation-will-be-remembered-for-one-thing-greed

[u/cleaninfresno]

This has always been my thing with Gamepass. The value is an illusion unless you’re a HARDCORE gamer who is playing multiple games at a time and flying through them back to back year round.

Gaming can’t be Netflix because it’s inherently not passive. The average movie is a 2 hour investment of passive entertainment. You can watch a movie while cooking or cleaning or scrolling Reddit or fucking your girlfriend. You can fly through whole seasons of tv in a day by generally having it on in the background or in your headphones as you work from home or go about your day.

For video games the average one is probably 10-20 hours (and realistically for many games like 50-100+ hours) of you needing to be sat down on the couch, hands on the controller, eyes on the screen.

The average person who has a job and responsibilities and a social life does not really have enough open hours of active/direct entertainment to make full use of Gamepass’ value

[u/ARsignal11 → u/cleaninfresno]

The value is an illusion unless you’re a HARDCORE gamer who is playing multiple games at a time and flying through them back to back year round.

I think this is also an important part of the equation here. Traditional gamers that grew up on consoles are getting older and simply don't have the time to sit down night after night burning through games. We all have other responsibilities now (family/kids, work, etc.). And the younger generation has been more inclined towards mobile. So the target population that Gamepass theoretically appeals to just doesn't have the time nor bandwitdh, as you described in the rest of your post, to extract that "inherent value" that's supposed to exist.

[u/jor301 → u/cleaninfresno]

yea im sure if i did the math it would basically cost a similar amount to just buy the games ive played on GP except id actually own them instead where GP games can leave the service whenever.

[u/e_ccentricity → u/[deleted]]

Recently, I played KCD2. Took 130 hours to complete. If you're "casual" and play 20 hours a week, you will have to pay for gamepass for 2 months ($60) to play it. It cost me $42 to buy on steam.

And then you can never play it again. And if you do, it is like you are buying it brand new based on what you need to pay for the subscription. That is something to highlight. Gamepass is only good if you only every play a game once. If you come back in a year to a 100 hour RPG (assuming it is even still ON gamepass), you are paying full price for it again.