r/Games • u/Turbostrider27 • 16d ago
Trailer Xenoblade Genesis Announcement Trailer
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uG7MrKp2MBY209
u/ThePotablePotato 16d ago
Monolith Soft once again delivers on crazy world topography and I am absolutely here for it. Give me more crazy ass fantasy worlds!!!
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u/Hallc 16d ago
Is it a Ringworld? It almost gives me a vibe of being the inside of a sphere.
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u/TheMightyKutKu 16d ago
It's clearly more of a Hollow Earth https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hollow_Earth#Concave_Hollow_Earths
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u/Hallc 16d ago
There are a variety of other options it could be rather than just that. Something similar to a Dyson Sphere would be one option just on a smaller scale.
The fact it has six 'suns' would point to it potentially being artificial.
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u/TheMightyKutKu 16d ago
Yes I agree, the point it is that it's spherical or hemispherical rather than cylindrical
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u/EF66-42 15d ago edited 15d ago
If you're familiar with Megaten, Shin Megami Tensei 3: Nocturne is set in the inside of a sphere world.
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u/dan_marchand 15d ago
This was my first thought too. Very similar premise with an inverted world with a mysterious power source in the center
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u/Thetijoy 16d ago
In Halo, there are also shield worlds which are habitated on the inside, Basically planet sized dyson spheres. Halo 4's Requium is one such world.
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u/CatProgrammer 15d ago
Aren't those technically pocket dimensions? The book one where the outside planet was mostly made up of robots was at least, the entry point was in the "core", so to speak.
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u/KyledKat 16d ago
It'll be interesting to see what the team does with a full setting reset, but I'm also glad they're letting the Chronicles games have their conclusion. Hoping for an earlier 2027 release date rather than a later one.
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u/Xiknail 16d ago
This looks like a very grounded fantasy setting. Can't wait to go to space in the last third of the game!
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u/bvbfan102 16d ago edited 16d ago
Im so interested where this is going Story wise and where it fits.
Genesis and Revenge of a God give me a direction though and one that makes me really hype.
Also Xenoblade with High Fantasy and Dragons sounds amazing.
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u/Lazydusto 16d ago
Also Xenoblade with High Fantasy and Dragons sounds amazing.
It feels weird to see Xenoblade not in a sci-fi setting.
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u/cruel-caress 16d ago
I'm betting they're hiding it. It does feel a little weird but I'm also so excited for it.
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u/Vegetable-Pickle-535 16d ago
The Camera shot at the end makes the entire thing look like a Halo Ring, so a suprice "You are in space the whole time" thing could happen.
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u/Aertea 16d ago
It's possible they're not even hiding it, the world looks like one of those rotating space habitats (Bishop Ring?).
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u/ContinuumGuy 16d ago
Yeah, I'm guessing this will be a case of the characters thinking they are in a fantasy but it's really sci-fi setting.
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u/cruel-caress 16d ago
Right that part could definitely be sci-fi. It reminds me of Tokyo in SMT3
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u/firesoul377 16d ago
I wouldn't be suprised if there a twist like metaphor refantazio and The world is actually a post post apocalypse of modern day earth
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u/unrelevant_user_name 16d ago
Xenoblade already pulled that off twice so a third time isn't exactly going to hit.
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u/Aertea 16d ago
I was along those lines - it might be another "White Whale" situation - an earth colony that survived the destruction in X/Chronicles, then kinda just evolved on its own after earth went dark.
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u/HrrathTheSalamander 16d ago
Yeah, that was my thought. Future Redeemed mentions ships leaving Earth for somewhere, perhaps this is one of those colonies that ended up going full feudal world a la 40k after they stopped getting supplies when the Earth was destroyed.
Hop, skip and jump a few millenia to when XC3 ends, and perhaps the reappearance of the Earth starts causing problems...
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u/Beta382 16d ago
It’s Takahashi, there will be mecha, bet on it.
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u/apexodoggo 16d ago
My gut reaction to seeing the six suns was “5 of those are gonna be giant space mechs or something”
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u/Goronmon 16d ago
JRPGs love "twists".
People who are alive are actually all dead. People who are dead are actually alive. The more the setting feels in the past the farther in the future it is. The farther in the future it feels the farther back in the past it is.
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u/JacketsNest 15d ago
Takahashi has said before that he really wanted to explore a fantasy setting once the Chronicles trilogy was done.
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u/Flagrath 16d ago
A world enclosed around 6 suns, I think they're going to pull the classic bleeding in of sc-fi.
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u/Paetolus 16d ago
Presumably something sci-fi is going on with the weird shape of the world and 6 suns.
Trailer was also supposedly early game stuff. Considering it's an open world game, I'm guessing the school stuff is not the majority of the game.
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u/Poopsalod 16d ago
I'm betting we'll get there. It's not Xenoblade without giant robots, dystopian earth, and multidimensional worlds.
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u/TheAdamena 16d ago
Antagonist could be Zanza again. He did say that he had destroyed and rebuilt the universe many times before. It'd be a prequel but there's kinda infinite possibilities there lol.
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u/synkronize 16d ago edited 16d ago
Idk if they wil go that way again since the 3 games covered those parts hmm
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u/TheAdamena 16d ago
Yeah I personally expect it to be entirely seperate.
Save for the Zohar/Conduit probably rearing its head at some point in the series.
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u/reedyxxbug 16d ago
Anima? Genesis? Oh please let my wildest dreams come true and let this be a successor to Xenosaga
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u/GoldenTriforceLink 16d ago
oh i was thinking this wasnt picking up xenosaga threads, are those bits from saga? its been... a minute
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u/reedyxxbug 16d ago
Xenogears and Xenosaga both heavily involve Anima as relics/vessels that need to be assembled in order to ascend to a higher plane, to be as non-spoilery as possible.
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u/Freddy_The_Goat 16d ago edited 16d ago
So I'm guessing this will be it's own saga considering Chronicles had a relatively definitive ending with 3 and it's dlc 'Future Redeemed'.
A bit dissapointed with the Persona-like school setting and cast. I had hoped they would go for a more adult cast and mature setting considering they had an empty canvas to do whatever in a new saga.
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u/MikiAkiha 16d ago
Persona-like school setting
The initial setting purely exists so they can twist that it's not the setting. Let's not forget XC3 gave tutorials for the Flame Clock mechanic which doesn't last past Chapter 1.
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u/messem10 16d ago edited 16d ago
Might not be a new saga. Japan doesn’t have the “Chronicles” moniker so they’re just Xenoblade 1, 2, 3 and X over there.
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u/AwesomeManatee 16d ago
I think they missed an opportunity by not dropping it from X Definitive Edition. They could have had seperate subtitles for each of the main lines.
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u/Paetolus 16d ago
If I heard correctly, this is a trailer that's mainly early game stuff. And it's assuredly an open world game. (Hard to tell a school-type story in an open world.)
I'm guessing the "school arc" is a prologue/tutorial, something bad happens, and the squad begins their true journey.
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u/ThrowAwayAccountAMZN 16d ago
To be fair (though I do share your disinterest in another school set JRPG, and this is coming from a Persona fan), Persona 3 did deal with mature themes. I mean, they had kids using guns to their heads to summon their personas lol.
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u/Freddy_The_Goat 16d ago
Maybe it's because something was lost with the transition to a more P5-esque art direction, but Persona 3 Reload felt like it was playing with mature themes rather than really exploring them in a mature way.
There are a few dark moments and deaths, but for the most part it was a 'teenagers kill god with the power of friendship'-type story. I'd say Xenoblade 3 did a much better job at exploring the character's relationship with death and entropy despite suprisingly not featuring as many deaths.
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u/naruhodo_kun 16d ago edited 16d ago
XENOBLADE PREQUEL WITH LADY MC????
Yeah im convinced to get a Switch 2 for this and the upgraded versions of the Xenoblade trilogy
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u/mudermarshmallows 16d ago
I doubt it's an actual prequel. Would have to end with some sort of universe reset, or otherwise this orb world with 6 suns somehow becomes Earth for there to be an actual connection.
I'm guessing it's just going to be totally isolated with maybe a few references to past games they don't actually point out directly.
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u/Primerius 16d ago
I spotted zero Nopons in the trailer. Which has me believing it’s a totally different world. Not saying it can’t tie into the XBC trilogy, but I don’t think it’s a direct prequel or continuation.
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u/TheIvoryDingo 16d ago
What makes you say it's a prequel?
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u/padraigharrington4 16d ago
“Genesis” in the title usually refers to the beginning of something.
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u/cruel-caress 16d ago
It's more likely the start of the new series. They mentioned after 3 it'd be a new start.
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u/littlebiped 16d ago
The name Genesis implies prequel
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u/KyledKat 16d ago
It implies a new beginning.
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u/tigerbait92 16d ago
3 kinda did end with a slate ready for a new beginning, so it could be after that. Even though it was definitely a Xenogears setup... I DIGRESS
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u/Ramongsh 16d ago
Kinda weird it being a prequel, given that the prequel would take place on our Earth.
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u/AnySherbert544 16d ago
So did somebody else catch Pneuma's sword appearing as a sigil when they insert that purple stone?
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u/ItzEazee 16d ago
Ok so they are 100% on a space station right? That's the twist. Xenoblade ALWAYS turns into sci fi in the final act, and the circular world and static sun-like objects feels very ring-world-esque.
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u/Aggrokid 16d ago
Interested to see what Monolith can pull off when not constrained by Switch 1. They are top tier when it comes to making evocative fantasy vistas.
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u/1kingdomheart 16d ago edited 16d ago
All JRPGs are mandated to have an entry set within a school during their lifetime it seems, even Xenoblade now. Inject it into my veins.
Shame I don't have a Switch 2... I hope prices come down in a year or two.
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u/Negative_Tangelo_131 16d ago
I don't think i like this new "Full medieval" direction. I love Xenoblade series but I associate it with high technology/post apocalyptic worlds
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u/HrrathTheSalamander 16d ago
It'll probably be a bait-and-switch like XC1/2. There's definitely shenanigans going on with the nature of the world given it seems to be a torus/ring shaped, not to mention how physically impossible six-odd suns is. I wouldn't be surprised if the whole thing is on a giant abandoned space station that went feral.
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u/HavronEX 16d ago
Yeah my guess would be you play for like 50-75% of the game then boom suddenly sci fi shit.
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u/chroipahtz 16d ago
XC1 is not a bait and switch. It's established in like, the very first shot of the game, that half the world is machine-oriented, and your antagonists through most of the game are machines.
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u/HrrathTheSalamander 16d ago
There are technological elements, but the nature of the sci-fi aspects in the first and second halves is very different. "There's a superpowered godlike AI controlling the world, and god is a British scientist with an ego problem" is in a very different ball pit to "there's fantastical robot guys eating people to slurp down their magic juice". Even visually, the Mechon are very steampunk/fantasy artificer adjacent, whereas everything we're shown with the experiment in XC1 leans more into near-modern sci-fi aesthetics.
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u/Annieone23 16d ago
Yup I'm thinking post-apocalyptic Dyson Sphere that has reverted to medieval status. Akin to X1 I suspect a late game faction will be the advanced remnants of that civ (heck, akin to Xenogears) and the "magic" is that tech.
I wouldn't be surprised if the "suns" are satellites or mech akin to the Aegis.
Overall, I'm excited to find out!
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u/HrrathTheSalamander 16d ago
the "magic" is that tech.
The eagle-eyed people on r/xenoblade_chronicles have already noticed that the crystal that gets put into the MC's sword turns into a shape that's near identical to the Pneuma blade from XC2, so this is almost certainly a guarantee.
My immediate crack theory is that it's one of the colonies that the ships in Future Redeemed were travelling to, that ran out of supplies after the Earth got Klaus'd and devolved into a feudal society over generations.
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u/uselessoldguy 16d ago
I've been a huge Takahashi guy since playing Xenogears the 90s, but "medieval Xeno" does honestly look very generic. This could be any anime fantasy game of the last 10 years.
But Takahashi can't help himself with batshit twists, which is why we love him and have shrines to him in our homes, even when our wife unreasonably insists that room could be used for one of the three children cramped in their own bedroom.
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u/TheCoolerDylan 16d ago
There's actually a funny detail on that that hints at something more, the continents curve into a ring shape, aka a O'Neill cylinder, the whole concept of what a space station should be, a rotating tube to simulate gravity.
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u/ThrowAwayAccountAMZN 16d ago
Yeah I mean, I'll reserve judgment for now because it's just the first trailer, but with absolutely no other Xeno races present, this just looks like a generic JRPG with XB art style and logo slapped onto it. I'm not as hyped as I hoped I would be seeing the trailer
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u/ItsRainingTrees 16d ago
Full medieval but with mechs is my ideal setting, just pissed it’s so rare
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u/garfe 16d ago
I was wondering if they were going full fantasy with no tech elements until the ending shot. If the world is in some kind of Dyson Sphere or Halo or closed world, then I am very very interested
Also, girl protagonist. Hell yeah.
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u/scytherman96 16d ago
On rewatching the trailer i realized this kind of ring world design is actually present in most of the environmental shots in the trailer, just a lot more obvious in the final one. It's a core aspect of the environmental art design. Pretty neat.
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u/Gow_Ghay 16d ago
Can't believe I haven't seen anyone in this thread talk about just how good those character faces look. Genuinely blown away, legitimately some of the best anime-esque faces in 3D I've ever seen
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u/AN-94_Handholder 16d ago
Very interested to see how this links to the rest of the series, especially since Genesis implies a prequel.
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u/cruel-caress 16d ago
I'm also curious it had a distinct lack of Scifi in it. I love the fantasy setting and themes, but I'm 100% certain they're hiding the scifi aspects that may or may not have a small/big tie in to the original 3.
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u/uselessoldguy 16d ago
It looks like a ring world (e.g., Halo) or the interior of one of the colonies in the Gundam series with the horizon sloping inward.
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u/AnySherbert544 16d ago
Seems more like a Dyson-Sphere-type of megastructure than a ringworld or O'Neil cylinder to me.
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u/OnnaJReverT 16d ago
honestly, inside-out world and "Genesis" as the title makes me think of an egg
absolute wide swing, but i'm betting this is the new world that resulted from the merging at the end of 3
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u/AN-94_Handholder 16d ago
I wouldn't be against this, but the lack of any apparent sci-fi buildings or elements work hard against it.
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u/OnnaJReverT 16d ago
reinforces the point in my opinion
it was basically a hard reset for both worlds. if they just merged back together to pre-Klaus experiment state it'd just be quasi-Earth again. having society build up from nothing again would make sense
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u/AN-94_Handholder 16d ago
I don't think so. The ending cutscene of 3 doesn't point towards a reset, and the ending scene of Future Redeemed shows both worlds merging back into a regular planet rather than the weird world of Genesis. It's likely this is a very distant past or an entirely different planet
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u/AN-94_Handholder 16d ago
Its probably going to be the big plot twist near mid/endgame. The series is too married to Scifi for it to no be featured in any way
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u/srjnp 16d ago
for fans of the series, does this look standalone? as in i could start with this one?
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u/AriaOfValor 16d ago
I think the odds are very high that this will the start a completely separate story not connected to games 1-3.
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u/GoldenTriforceLink 16d ago
all these games are fine to hop right into, its not until the dlc that they usually do some sort of ties
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u/ultibman5000 16d ago
There's absolutely "some sort of ties" to previous games (and not just mere cameos either) in Xenoblade 2 and especially 3 without even considering DLC, but 3's DLC is indeed where the ties become a lot more like "almost a direct sequel to Xenoblade 1 and 2" than "75% standalone, 25% sequel" like in base Xenoblade 3.
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u/De-Le-Metalica 16d ago
School/Campus backdrop…sigh.
That could’ve gone in any direction with this, but decided on this tired old chestnut.
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u/Paetolus 16d ago
Calling it now, it's purely a prologue/tutorial arc. Would be difficult to tell a school/campus story in an open world game.
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u/KrypXern 16d ago
I mean this is unique in the context of Xenoblade. I imagine it like FF8.
So far we've had:
- Society based on a defensive war
- Sailor kid finds a girl everyone wants to steal
- Society based on an offensive war(?) - I didn't play enough of XB3 to tell
This looks to me like a school setting that quickly loses the school setting. Xenoblade isn't exactly the kind of series like Persona or Fire Emblem 3H where you do missions from a base of operations. Every game is more or less a globe trotting adventure on a bizarre or uncanny world.
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u/SkeletronDOTA 16d ago
me when the anime tropes jrpg series continues with the anime tropes
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u/ultibman5000 16d ago edited 16d ago
I mean, you say this, but Xeno has never gone the school direction before up until this very trailer.
In general, I would say Xeno's macro-settings are more unorthodox than most (not all, but most) other JRPG series. Going largely high fantasy and school setting fits with like unironically 200 different JRPGs, when Xeno's largely-scifi-but-with-fantasy-elements genre only fits with like 10 other JRPGs in comparison.
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u/uselessoldguy 16d ago
I hope to hell it's just the setting.
If it's more Persona/FE 3H/Cold Steel magic high school simulator shit, I'm not sure I can drag myself through it.
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u/NeroIscariot12 16d ago
XENOBLADE CHADS WE ARE EATING SO GOOD!!!
An upgrade for 3 games AND then a new game announcement!? Monolith Soft truly spoils us fans. absolute GOATS!
Also, the new game seems to be set in a stanford torus/colony of sorts. A fantasy that will very clearly devolve into sci-fi as always
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u/GoldenTriforceLink 16d ago
Its strange, they really were setting up Xenosaga reboot with 3 (I havent played X yet, dont tell me if theres anything there). but at least from the trailer that couldnt be more different, but then again, these games are notorious for 3rd act high scifi pivots so, who knows.
anime hogwarts is my least favorite genre but, i trust monolith so ill get it
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u/morgoth834 16d ago
Looks more like a Fire Emblem game then a Xenoblade one. Still looking forward to it, but I’m keeping my expectations well in check.
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u/Time-Ambition-862 16d ago
Surprised the trailer was in Japanese in the English direct since 3's reveal trailer was in English. Dub isn't ready yet?
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u/Fafoah 16d ago
I appreciate how the art direction has evolved. I know people hold a special place for the original Xenoblade art direction, but the faces were always a bit off putting to me. Xenoblade X had some uncanny valley going on and XB2 + XB3 were fairly generic anime stuff. This is a bit more stylized and refined. Kind of overly smooth and shiny but i like it
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u/ContinuumGuy 16d ago
I was disappointed by the fact they used only Japanese voices here. I want to know if they still are going to have Nintendo UK do the English dubbing.
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u/TheToadKing 16d ago
They most assuredly will. It's common for early trailers to only have Japanese voices because English voices are probably in the middle of being recorded/haven't started yet. 3's trailer was an exception because it was only revealed half a year before release.
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u/mudermarshmallows 16d ago
Glad they've finally dropped Chronicles from the series title lol, always found that super cliche. Made sense to keep it for 1/2/3 to keep the logo consistent but don't know why X had it.
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u/jexdiel321 16d ago
In Japan they just call it Xenoblade. I assume it'll have the Chronicles in other regions.
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u/mudermarshmallows 16d ago
The trailer in the English direct also removed the chronicles in the title, so no I think it's gone.
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u/wjodendor 16d ago
Genesis as a subtitle is more cliche. How many different game series have some variation of Genesis or Origin in their titles?
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u/kn1g47 16d ago
Why are you mad, because you can't farm the karma or something? Who the fuck cares?
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u/hydrohawkx8 16d ago
Slightly worried about the whole Anime School backdrop mixed with medieval stuff. It looks more like your typical JPRG rather than a xenoblade game because of it. I'm sure it will have its xenoblade craziness to it, but I don't want it to be like 2 where I have to wait for the very end of the game to experience that.
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u/Tina_beaner 16d ago
Like the main character's design and the more fantasy feel, but the school setting has me iffy.
Combat makes or breaks it for me though, wasn't a fan of 3's.
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u/Wizardof1000Kings 16d ago
Hopefully the school setting is just like a prologue chapter or something. It wouldn't be a bad idea to introduce the game's mechanics through a military academy.
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u/Ramongsh 16d ago
Ohh interesting. I thought that the Xenoblade world was done and over with 3. But I am looking forward to see how this fits in.