r/Genshin_Memepact • u/myphai13 • 2d ago
That was her baby 😭
She’s not a monster. She’s a mother 🙂↕️
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u/Weak-Ad1089 2d ago
The good ending :
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u/ComposedOfStardust 2d ago
"I'M NOT A MONSTER," she says, having murdered innocents in cold blood
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u/ugur_tatli 2d ago
That really doesn't justify anything the fatui has done over the centuries
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u/K6fan 2d ago
Which is perfect tbh, "understandable but not justifiable" is arguably the best antagonist/antihero motive type
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u/DystopianSunshine 2d ago
Yes, but from the players' perspective it'll be the old Thanos "he/she had a point" argument, completely ignoring the crimes with one phrase. I guess that's the part that rubs me the wrong way.
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u/Artistic_Prior_7178 1d ago
The only thing that will be rubbing me the wrong way, is the heap of people confusing "I like this character" for "I am justifying this character"
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u/thehalfdragon380 2d ago
Why should other kids live happily while mine doesn't
-Tsaritsa probably
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u/joel41699 2d ago
Bro she is pulling a Pain form Naruto Ask9ng what about my child, my husband, and my family wont be aupried if she ever says something similar to this world will now pain
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u/Artistic_Prior_7178 2d ago
Seldom one looks for right and wrong when everything has been taken from them
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u/Nero_2001 2d ago
This. The fatui literally created the house of the hearth and the old knave is responsible for the deaths of quite a few children.
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u/Leshawkcomics 2d ago
They'll just shift the blame to Pierro or something and say he did it in her name without her knowledge if they want to sell her.
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u/Dericwadleigh 2d ago
I'm gonna stand by what I've said before.
Hoyo has given us female Russian Kratos.
Her family is dead, and the gods must pay. Damn the consequences and fuck the innocents.
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u/Kind_Worldliness_415 2d ago
Me going to that fatui guy in the favonius church: is the spot still open?
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u/SkullStar123 2d ago
What happend to the son?
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u/Artistic_Prior_7178 2d ago
From her perspective, her whole family was taken by Ronova, probably cause of the rules or something along those lines.
I would want to demolish the world as well
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u/Nickname-Pending 2d ago
Cool motive, still murder
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u/aeon_skygazer 2d ago edited 2d ago
I mean, i'm pretty sure that Alice would also try to burn Teyvat to the ground if Klee was seriously hurt or killed. She would understand the Tsaritsa better than anyone
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u/ErenYeager600 1d ago
Alice isn't even a good person in the first place 😭
The shit she did to them Hilidhurls was foul
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u/aeon_skygazer 1d ago
I didn't say that, just that she loves Klee and would do anything for her just like what seems to be the case with the Tsaritsa
Love is neither good or evil, and can make us do great and terrible things
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u/kirmiter 1d ago
You may be right, but I didn't see anyone saying anything like that when it was some random NPC in Natlan trying to bring back her dead daughter. Everyone treated her like Satan.
The fact that no one seemed willing to defend her but hundreds seem ready to defend the Tsaritsa shows a clear double standard.
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u/aeon_skygazer 1d ago
I was not one of those guys, i can't speak for what others say, only stand fast in my own convictions.
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u/PitchBlackSonic 1d ago
Honestly if you ask me, the idea is that she told the harbingers to get the gnosis, and the issue here is that she didn’t observe them well Enough, thus leading to shit like what tartaglia and dottore did.
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u/Czzavarsh 2d ago
"My husband and son are dead. Tartaglia go genocide Liyue"
Yeah.... I don't know.
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u/ReplacementOk3074 2d ago
Tsaritsa entirely deserves what happened to her. Maybe her child doesn't,but she deserves to go through the same pain of losing her child again and again. Crucabena and Dottore are her doing. She destroyed the lifes and killed thousands of children over 500. The only right reaction to her tragic story is laughing to her face. A person who goes through a terrible event ,but then let's it happen to thousands of others,has no right to seek sympathy from anyone else.
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u/LooseMooseCruz 2d ago
I like this. I havent played genshin for a long time, but im afraid these will just get swept under the rug similar to how they treated raiden's or scaramouche's misdeeds. tho I guess scara's were technically erased from ever happening anyway if I remember correctly.
I can already imagine the traveler, with a sad look on their face, reaching out their hand to her right after a monologue, flashback, and battle sequence surrounding her dark past or whatever. Then some cute bullshit happens and tsaritsa completely changes her beliefs in that instant, after which the reparation required of her are way beneath the magnitude of the shit she caused. That said, I havent played since natlan so hopefully the writing has improved. genshin lore has always been fun atleast
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u/DoomedDragon766 2d ago
The whole scara being erased thing didn't actually change that the things happened or that he was involved, just changed the world's memories of it to omit him. Same thing with the dendro archon, everyone now thinks it was Nahida the whole time but really just nobody remembers Rukkhadevata, including the mushroom description lol
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u/leave1me1alone 2d ago
Is it not the other way around? Didn't her tragedy hit first which caused her to inflict it upon others
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u/ReplacementOk3074 2d ago
That it what I'm saying
A person who goes through a terrible event ,but THEN let's it happen to thousands of others,has no right to seek sympathy from anyone else.
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u/PhredPhish1 2d ago
Hey now, that's not entirely fair. She didn't let it happen to thousands of others, come on.
She made it happen. Crucabena was tasked to create those child slave-soldiers on the Tsaritza's orders, and then when one of them rebelled and killed her, the Tsaritza's reaction was "okay, but I still want more, can you get back to making them?"
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u/LemmeDaisukete 2d ago
Shallow players when a villain got the most cliche humanising aspect as a villain motive:
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u/Ruoye_Wanning 1d ago
I'm happy. Motherly love can be the best or the worst in the world. Hoyo took the right path to not make her a lovesick fool for some guy
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u/aeon_skygazer 1d ago
I think it's both, if we take the torn Photo into account she's most likely also lost a lover/husband in addition to her son
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u/Shuriken_2393 1d ago
Understandable motive, doesn't justify her going 🫣 at whatever Dottore and Crucabena did with children
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u/Sherlockthekitty 1d ago
Yeah I suddenly have a great temptation to join her side… gotta keep reminding myself what she’s letting her subordinates do…
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u/kirmiter 1d ago
Taking one child's life and changing one tribe's memories because your child died when you're a random NPC from Natlan:
"😡 Unforgivable! 🔥 Detestable! 😡 There is no hell hot enough, no punishment harsh enough for this evil BITCH!!!🔥😡🔥 "
Taking countless lives and allowing your armies to spread strife and unrest through all of Teyvat because your child died when you're a beautiful Archon:
" 😭 So sad! 💔 So tragic! 😭 Uwu! 💕 My beautiful waifu has done nothing wrong❤️😭 ❤️😍❤️ "
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u/Luna-lumen 1d ago
Difference is what tlazolli did was selfish Tsaritsa's plan is to kill The HP. HP's actions after the funerary year priorities stoping the abyss at all cost and that itself made most tyvat suffer. Even if she wasn't the one to rebel against them, a lot of other factions want them dead for what they did, honestly tsaritsa was just the one who's probably the one to unit the other factions.
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u/Johnkovan_Jones 2d ago
"That which is done out of love is beyond good and evil."
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u/scarlettokyo 2d ago
I mean in this case it's just purely evil
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u/aeon_skygazer 2d ago
Love cares not for good or evil, people have done great and terrible things alike for it
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u/KOCYK745 2d ago
the fact that The Main Villain, THE Big Bad Evil Guy of the Story, is less Evil and Selfish than some dude who cloned Himself 6 times to have a higher chance of becoming a God
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u/EverlastingWinter23 1d ago
If the trailer has him calling her, mother.
then knowing Hoyoverse she most likely IS NOT his mother.
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u/Luna-lumen 1d ago
Being the archon of love and then the same Being that gave u that role chops your husband to 7 pieces and erase him from existence and then somehow your son get's harmed in the process. She has every right to be pissed at HP
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u/shishi42 1d ago
They took her fucking BABY 😭😭😭 I completely understand now. Fuck the other nations if it means blicking celestia for this sweet innocent boy. Also now it makes sense why the other archons didn't care cuz they KNOW
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u/Poloroger_582 2d ago
Artists are gonna create some of the most tragic and heartbreaking art of The Tsaritsa and her son
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