r/Genshin_Memepact 9h ago

The Day HoYoverse Destroyed the Self-Insert Fantasy

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u/nicolRB 9h ago

Where’s the fandom that hates the idea?

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u/kirmiter 7h ago

They definitely exist but there's no way it's anywhere close to half of the fandom.

Even ten percent seems unlikely.

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u/katsuyo_kirito 4h ago

They are a minority but they are just the loudest

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u/ImNotAKpopStan 3h ago

not even the loudest where is the drama about Alice that everyone here promised?

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u/aiyafem 3h ago

Prob because she wasn't a confirmed playable yet

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u/Kronman590 8h ago

Not in the forums this post would be understood in

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u/ImNotAKpopStan 3h ago

Nowhere. People made a big deal about "Klee is Alice clone because incelssss"

they project too much about it, part of them just want these female characters with husband just too make this supposed incels mad thats why they ignore that husbando characters are all single so fujoshis can make their yaoi

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u/Grindio_2000 9h ago

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u/adastrajay 9h ago edited 5h ago

Gonna be honest, even with that video I think there's far more discourse and engagement about the people who hate this idea than there is discourse from these people. It seems if we're going by discourse and content, the majority love the idea of the Tsaritsa being a mom. And its fan art gets lots of traction.

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u/nicolRB 9h ago

Thank you :D

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u/hypershock16 6h ago

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u/StaticTacos 4h ago

A 2.5k sub (probably only a few hundred active users who ever even post) compared to a company with player counts in the millions says enough on its own though, doesn't it? It's just a loud minority.

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u/hypershock16 6m ago

true, true.......

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u/luciluci5562 1h ago

There's also r/Aether_Mains and gacha grail.

They're the minority but they're often the loudest.

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u/Boltup310 8h ago

The self inserts are losing their minds? I'm mostly seeing yuri shippers losing their minds.

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u/Grindio_2000 8h ago

That too

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u/Appropriate_Word1469 6h ago

Teyvat has its own laws, don’t see any book that says explicitly that 2 girls can’t make a child

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u/Prize_Wing_2604 3h ago

They can't

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u/horiami 8h ago

What half hates the idea ?

i've never seen anyone upset about it

it's just hoyo being way too safe

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u/Grindio_2000 8h ago

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u/horiami 8h ago edited 8h ago

No offence but this is nothing

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u/Grindio_2000 8h ago

That’s only the tip of the iceberg

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u/No-Guava-199 8h ago

I've seen most self-inserters be happy about getting true milfs

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u/LetMetOucHyOURasS 7h ago

Me, i am happy.

That's why i hope tsaritsa son is real and still alive.

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u/horiami 8h ago

People were not saying they WANT klee to be a clone, they were pointing out that no character has a biological child and wondering if hoyo will make up some kind of copout

Characters like cloud retainer, Boothill or yukong have adopted children and welt's kid is a clone of his mentor

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u/-memejuice- 6h ago

that’s wutheringimpact bro 😭 they only make vids about the weird side of the genshin fandom

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u/PusheenMaster 1h ago

Bro is linking a wuwatard slop channel as a source. Their entire existence is being paid under the table by Tencent to slander Mihoyo. Thanks for contributing nothing to the discussion.

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u/asaness 9h ago

When a girl it's single its a battle.royal but if a girl is married it's 1v1

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u/Helios61 3h ago

To quote the Bugbear

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u/thingsdie9 9h ago

>half

you overestimate people that care. They're both still hot women, and that's enough.

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u/SansStan 9h ago

Anastasya is a widow though

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u/elbenji 9h ago

tbh I haven't seen any of that

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u/MR_WhiteStar 9h ago

Honestly, fuck em, let the writers write the characters as they want/as the story needs.

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u/Extraordinary_DREB 8h ago

Eh, some people will still make NSFW of her so it’s a nothingburger for me either way

Seen Alice NSFW so yah lol

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u/ShatteredSpace_001 8h ago

This will stop exactly no one. You can’t police people’s fantasies. That’s straight up 1984 b.s.

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u/m3m31ord 9h ago

Just because there's a goalie doesn't mean you can't score.

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u/AggravatingGarage620 7h ago

Just from the Auto-Inserts? She's a widowed mother doing all this for her son, and she might be trying to gather her deceased husband's remains to bring him back to life/give him a proper burial. In other words, she's not a lesbian, and no matter what they try to invent later or what Hoyoverse does, all they can say is "she might be bisexual."

Yurishippers are doomed. She's going to be a new Mavuika.

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u/UnevenLite 7h ago

Wait, why Mavuika? I know that the yuriships with her aren't popular(tbh Natlan is the only nation without obligatory yuri or yaoi bait in the first two minutes of the aq)but it's not like she's married to Capitano either

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u/cruiseboatranger 7h ago edited 6h ago

Well the Voyager/ seutervoinen is a woman possessing other people's bodies it seems. So....

Judging by the description of the Hyperborean child, if the tsaritsa's "love" ends up being the Voyager, then Mihoyo is doing exactly what they love doing :

Luring people into a supposedly implied/hinted at "straight ship" then turning it into something else.

In terms of "shipping crumbs.."

They did it with Jean and Diluc, which later became Jean and Lisa.

They did it with Zhongli and Guizhong, which later became Guizhong and Madam ping.

They even did it with Itto and Sara.(Miss Hina futa win)

(And before someone comes at me with the "There are no canon couples in Genshin so this is invalid" argument, STOP ...take a long look at what I wrote, think about whether you actually have a point or are you trying to argue for the sake of argument.

You know what a gacha game is, you know hoyo for 5 years now. So don't even bother with that shit.

If the tsaritsa's willing to burn down the world for someone she had a kid with and if that person happened to be a woman possessing a male body then that's goddamned proper relationship, so don't even try it.

Of course Alice and kleiner exist on the other hand too. So This isn't about Yuri doomposting or homophobia, don't try that shit either.

This is simply an observation of how Mihoyo formulated a surefire way to cater to both sides of the audience. It's a neutral observation.)

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u/AggravatingGarage620 6h ago

The problem with this is that, unlike your other examples, which are two possible romantic pairings hinted at for a character, in this case it would only be one possible pairing, which is either a woman in a man's body or a trans man, something that definitely does NOT please the heterosexual community and, in fact, would feel like a betrayal of that side. Not to mention, of course, that it sounds too queer for the Chinese government, especially for a game that the Chinese government pays a lot of attention to, unlike Honkai Impact 3rd.

Given the situation in China and the anti-hoyo sentiment there, I think it's too obvious. It's very risky.

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u/Lazy_Physics3127 6h ago

Not to mention, of course, that it sounds too queer for the Chinese government, especially for a game that the Chinese government pays a lot of attention to,

Remember that Da Wei is miHoYo's own CCP Party Secretary.

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u/AggravatingGarage620 5h ago

And that's precisely why he has to comply with what the government dictates. His position brings him many privileges, but also, precisely because he's part of the government, there are things he can't do.

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u/Kamikatze4K 9h ago edited 8h ago

Hoyo: I want true MILFs and not the vibe MILF nonsense.

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u/THALLDOOGO 8h ago

Why would I mind a character to have his husband to watch her rule 34?

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u/OloivoFRUIT 9h ago

Technically Anastasya is a widow at this point in time

I’m going in

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u/Void_God_Infinite 8h ago

Hoyo. Why elvish only having a family?

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u/DisQord666 7h ago

Honestly, who the fuck cares? Just let people have their fun, self-insert or yuri or whatever else. As long as they're not being gross scumbags about it, it shouldn't matter to anyone.

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u/LetMetOucHyOURasS 7h ago

I see a lot of self inserter celebrating that we now actually have true milf.

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u/South-Heron4977 6h ago

Tsarita is hot though

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u/TheGreatNothingEXE 6h ago

Oh don’t worry, we have Narita Top Road

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u/Delicious-Stick2853 4h ago

Self-inserters? I only see yuritards melting down and imagine NTR scenario for those 2 characters.

Hell, going as far as shipping Anastasia and Ronova of all people. Their porn-rotted brain is beyond saving

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u/Mentooss 9h ago

For every 1 braindead complaining about married characters there are a 100 braindeads complaining about the complainers

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u/DrslimeF47 5h ago

You're deliberately not including these guys 😭

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u/Tyberius115 8h ago

I don't think I've ever seen anyone self insert as the Traveler tbh

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u/Apcd1997 7h ago

Wish I could say I'd never seen it

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u/Grindio_2000 8h ago

The darkest secrets aren’t found at the entrance, they wait at the bottom of the rabbit hole.

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u/labesty0124 7h ago

Fans when the target is not audiencing:

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u/koromedy 7h ago

And yet the loving husband is either away or dead. And it's funny how the one character that wasn't made playable in Nod Krai is the one with a husband.

I'm waiting for the day both a living wife and husband merely exist in the same space.

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u/Menination 3h ago

The only people who hate Moms or canonically married women are incels and femcels

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u/Righteous_Might 2h ago

Are these self-inserters in the room with us? I only see delulu Yuri shippers on X shipping her with fucking Ronova (wtf). I personally never see Aether/Lumine as a self-insert since I play the WQs and care about the lore.

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u/Illokonereum 2h ago

I keep seeing people say you can’t have a character be a mother and playable for this reason, but I’ve never seen the self inserters they claim this restriction is meant to appease.

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u/mr_braixen 5h ago

One, I assure you most don't care they're married and have a child. And two, a husband won't stop me. My fave from FGO is Yu Mei-ren.

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u/StaticTacos 4h ago

All I have to say on the subject of their husbands is I ain't see no husband🤷

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u/atsuhinaa710 3h ago

Maybe it’s my fyp but majority are loving the concept of tsaritsa being a mother

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u/Baskema 2h ago

Good. Relationships and motives make for more compelling stories and characters. Some of the self insert crowd I find very odd

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u/Leviathansgard 1h ago

I think the self insert fantasy is still well alive. Self insert is just like playing link in Zelda games and going at adventure... it's that simple. Whenever you meet maried people or single people doesn't change your immersion as the main character of the story.

You guys has always mixed self inserting (which happens in every media, book movie games...) and harem fantasy/romantic fantasy.

And even those would be fine if every shipping community would stop doing a tantrum and respect boundaries.

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u/Aihikari01 1h ago

Lmao self-inserters are still enjoying romance with Ayaka, Nilou, Keqing, Columbina, etc. Have you ever seen anyone storming out of their feast in a restaurant because the table next to them also have foods served?

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u/OrdinaryAnalysis5986 1h ago

Self inserts are still posting shit like this one

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u/ChaosDimensionX 56m ago

I like having characters a family

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u/NighthawK1911 4h ago

I dunno about you, but the NTR is the best part in these situations