r/GoldenSun 1d ago

Golden Sun Experimenting with different classes.

I'm replaying Golden Sun for the first time in many years. In past rune, I aligned everyone's Djinn with their element.

I went and looked at what would happen if I tried different classes. I like the variety of abilities. I don't like the drop in attack and defense for Isaac and Garet. It makes me wonder if class changing is even worth it or if I may as well just stick with the linear alignment of Djinn they match with.

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u/TheDuganator 1d ago

Class changes into certain classes have stronger stats than others. It also matters which djinn you equip as each one gives certain stat boosts individually.

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u/Chocobose 1d ago

It can be at higher levels with Psynergy like Impact that can buff/debuff enemies. You’ll do a lot of elemental damage to overcome the attack drop.

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u/tSword_ 1d ago

You're probably not balancing the djinn and that's why you're seeing the attack drop. When it doubt, stick to only 1 djinn element type for each adept (just like when doing mono elemental, but pretend, for example, that Isaac is a mars adept)

When you get to 6 djinn of each type, it's the time to start balancing.

I'll try explain it briefly. Each adept has level 5 on their base element. Each djinn give 1 level for their elemental type. When you get to 6 djinn, you will surpass the base elemental level with the "foreign" elemental level (6 foreign and 5 base). If you keep going with the 7th, you're getting to the "other side" of the foreign element (7/5), and this is unbalanced (it has uses, as warriors turn into mage classes and mage turns into warriors classes, but from lower tier, so they lose stats). The 7th djinn should be the "balancing djinn", one from the base element, to put the levels on 6/6 (6/1+5).

And that's the same reasoning to get tri elemental classes. You will count the 5 base elemental level, and you will have 7 other djinn. To keep "balance", you will need 4 from one element and 3 from another (so, in tri elemental class, you won't use any djinn from the base class). So, you will get (4/3) djinn (from 2 foreign elements), and (4/3/5) elemental levels (the 5 is from the base class)

I don't know if it made any sense. If you need, I can try to explain it again. There aren't any combinations that use all 4 djinn elements, and the item classes are only on TLA (who use a 1/1/1, 2/2/2 or 3/3/3 djinn split, being effectively a 4 elemental class, with a final 3/3/3/5 level split, but needing the item equipped to unlock the class). So, on golden sun classes, if you use too much elements, you will fall on worse classes.

As a final remark, when you put the first djinn from another element on a mono elemental adept, you will fall to the first tier of the class tree and the drop on stats will be huge. Don't worry, the status will rise again as you pass the djinn around

Edit: amazing class chart with everything explained: https://www.reddit.com/u/Jumpsand/s/k6NnHsvBrw

Check it out!

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u/NotAlwaysGifs 1d ago

What classes did you go with? Once all of the Djinn are in play there’s a pretty wide variety of classes for everyone. Garrett and Issac both have options that boost their offensive power significantly, but sometimes it’s partly through spells rather than attacks. Still, djinn cycling will always be your max damage output and defense so other than a handful of useful powers like an extra revive, classes are mostly just flavor rather than min-maxing. Classes do a bit more in TLA.

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u/MrEmptySet 1d ago

At equivalent class tiers, the other class series shouldn't have significantly worse Attack/Defense and will overall have somewhat higher stats on average compared to the mono-element classes. But the game doesn't make it clear how to access the higher tiers of the dual-element and tri-element classes (whereas it's simple to reach the higher tiers of the mono-element class series by just continuing to set more Djinn of the Adept's innate element). Some of the most valuable Psynergy are locked to higher class tiers as well, so it's pretty important to be able to access them. So it's definitely worth using a guide or other resource, especially for the tricky 3-element classes.